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I said why I use higher BB for some products, I like it thin, test U is brewed in castor oil and castor it's thick, I inject 1ml with a slin pin so I use 35% BB.
Do you have a reason to reduce BB? Because I see none. BB doesn't give any PIP, it's not toxic and it's used by pharma company in higher concentration than what I use for few of my brew.
So no I don't think there is any need for it.
Test U 35% BB (btw there are some old vet brewer using even higher then this just fyi)
Masteron 400mg 25% BB
Test D 500mg 25% BB
EQ 500mg 25% BB
Test C 300mg 30% BB
NPP 200mg 30% BB
Anything else is brewed at 20% BB unless I'm using thicker oils then I increase up to 25% to thin it out for personal preference.
They are different shops and catering to different kind of customers.
You want the cheapest shit you go Chinese oils, you want to care for your health you should look into domestic sources HOWEVER domestic sources mostly are just offering oils for a premium just because you are not going through custom.
That's in my opinion is ok but a bit underwhelming.
I haven't seen one domestic source catering to those ppl that are not only looking to avoid custom issues but are looking for quality above all and I'm talking from vials, stoppers, equipment used and process of brewing.
That's why most of the ppl that are into this for long and want quality switch to brew their own gear, not for saving money (I have spent so much money on equipments that I could have probably bought already made gear for my entire life) but because you can control the quality of those vials from the start to the end.
Even so pench is making it out like I'm unreasonable or gay for my concerns, the reality is that some ppl are stacked in the prehistoric era where ppl were a lot less informed, we didn't have the access to informations we have today and testing wasn't rampant at all.
He is stuck with silicone and now he likes PTFE only for one reason, he doesn't have an autoclave and he doesn't want to buy one so he needs stoppers that can be hear dried or he can't sterilize them properly.
I mean I applaude him for not saying fuck It I'll just do an iso bath like many do and "sterilize" them that way (spoiler alert, iso bath is not enough) but at the same time a source can easily make 12/15k out of 1kg of test C/E. So there is no excuses to not have a professional flowhood, an autoclave, a dedicated medical oven and other shit that compared to how much money one can do is just pennies
I could understand a brewer that has just started the business, yeah it's tough and maybe he can start with a more simple setup until he gets going and then upgrade his lab but a source that states he has been brewing 8 years as a private source has no excuses to have a subpar equipments and making a fuss because one suggest him to upgrade his stopper to something suitable for holding injectable oils with BB content.
Silicone rubber generally has good compatibility with many pharmaceutical excipients, but is known to be more permeable to organic solvents (including benzyl benzoate) than butyl rubber. This can lead to issues like swelling or absorption of organics and potentially leaching of siloxanes into the solution, especially with high benzyl benzoate concentrations.
For anyone that is ABLE TO READ leaching of siloxanes is not something you SEE with your naked eyes, the stopper can look completely fine and you can still have a ton of leaching.
Is this harmful? Sure. How much? I have no fucking idea. You can probably be fine for years to end or maybe you will get something down the road that could be attributed to that continuous injection of leached siloxanes in your lovely oil.
The point is not is it gonna kill you or not, the point is: why do I gamble on this when I can avoid it completely?
I mean sometimes I wonder if you are fucked in the head or just ignorant human beings.
In a business where you can make 13/15x what you pay your materials I don't really understand how can you can complain of few dollars spent here or there, plus it makes you stand out, it's amazing how NO ONE of these half hassed amateur sources has thought to gather to a specific niche of ppl and be like the Ferrari of steroids.
There are plenty of ppl around here and out there that have MONEY, they don't care about 5/20$ above the average domestic price if they can get the rolls Royce of oils.
They pay and they pay well and they come back for more.
But nope let's do volume and be just another drop in the ocean of the many sources that keeps popping up left and right and go away to rebrand at the first fuck up.
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No one rat head ugly man that is not the reason!
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If a stopper can withstand 500*F your peasize brain would logically think it can withstand the longevity of being pierced and handled rough as hell
I mean JFC, can't we give him credit for considering change? Carrot and stick. Right?
Wrong thermal resistance is not equals to piercing resistance and is not equal to chemical resistance. I mean what are you 5 years old? What kind of logic is this?
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I ain’t gonna start with you again Sampei lord have mercy
You don't need, your replies or comments or faulty logic speak loud enough lol
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Never mind standby airborne show you some pics Mr 10yr veteran
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That’s how these old guys are man. If you don’t do it how they did it 20 years ago you’re wrong even if your method is better. So many incapable of adapting in everything nowadays
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Okay we have 3 of these in the room where I work. Your talking about $800 just in clean air
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you be stuck on a flow hood cuz you logically can’t expand your mind into a clean room sir
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Think positive pressure and yes with AC
A full flow hood of 475 is a shit flow hood and I bet it doesn't even include the fan filter that's why it costs not so much.
Now let's get back to you and your own retardiness.
You know your air filter are H13 filter right? LOL
You do know the standard is AT LEAST H14 FILTER RIGHT?
You do know to have a complete sterile room you need to have a professional sealed vacuum room OR you need to have a direct flow from a fan filter blowing air through a H14 filter iso5/100 rated and unless the whole room is vacuum sealed the sterility is only in a very limited space in front of the flow of the filter.
Btw the fan blowing air through the filter need to be properly sized because the air need to exit at a proper speed and volume so that it doesn't create turbulence and doesn't disrupt the flow or you lose "sterility".
Do I need to continue? There is a whole science behind flow hood and how to properly build one.
Btw flow hood doesn't makes thing sterile, it prevents unsterile things to deposit into other things. Like a vial or a beaker. Your room can't be sterile you idiot, because you would have to decontaminate it all and never introduce anything that is unsterile to make the whole room sterile.
What you have there is a continuous flow of unsterile particule around your room that can deposit anywhere, in short words
YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE ZERO!
you would be better shutting the fuck up because I mean I don't even have to do anything you are digging your own grave with the ignorance you are spewing here showing everyone you don't know shit
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Bro the room is sealed what are you talking about
For a non-native speaker, no one can tell. Incredible.
Oh my god... Do you understand the basic principle of what makes a thing sterile?
Do you do a decontamination shower before entering the room? The room is decontaminated at X intervals? Anything in the room is sterile?
I'll answer for you: No.
You don't have a sterile room! You have a sealed room full of unsterile things, with air getting filtered through NOT THE PROPER FILTERS that just keeps sending around unsterile particles.
Do I need to make a sketch for you?
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