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...stop feeding the troll -- seriously, just let this thread die off already...hebs

Stop reading my posts you Crisler bum licking nugget. If I'd waited an extra 3 months I'd have attended the app I made with Thierry Hertoghe but instead wasted £5000 to see this supreme low T motherf***** who has no idea what androgen insensitivity syndrome is. He had no idea why the fuck my BAT and LH were both over top range at the same time when he tested me.
 
^Maybe because your BATshit insane?

Where your money come from? Welfare? You said you have no job, so you be leeching off the taxpayer. NO respect for that. You dont deserve the test. It makes me angry reading all your whining, specially as you stink up every bodybuiding forum you go on.

Get a job, might give you some responsibility for a goddamn change. :sucks:
 
^Maybe because your BATshit insane?

Where your money come from? Welfare? You said you have no job, so you be leeching off the taxpayer. NO respect for that. You dont deserve the test. It makes me angry reading all your whining, specially as you stink up every bodybuiding forum you go on.

Get a job, might give you some responsibility for a goddamn change. :sucks:

This is the only BB forum I post on.

So Herbie tells the only guy who has helped me for free to find out what the fuck was wrong with me to stop posting in my thread and calling me a troll. LOL!!

I then get angry and call him a Crisler bum licking nugget. I could have seen Hertoghe last Feb. The app was made but went to see Crisler instead because the app was three months earlier and as impatient as I was. I was impatient but not as much now. I'm taking my time.

The money issue was no problem back then. That was almost two year back. Towards the endo of 2010. It is now big time though. I am looking for work but can't function.
 
^Maybe because your BATshit insane?

Where your money come from? Welfare? You said you have no job, so you be leeching off the taxpayer. NO respect for that. You dont deserve the test. It makes me angry reading all your whining, specially as you stink up every bodybuiding forum you go on.

Get a job, might give you some responsibility for a goddamn change. :sucks:


Nice. He's said he's been in rehab for months, obviously this has taken a lot out of his life, and you just want to troll him. If we can afford to give the casino bank speculators hundreds of billions to bail them out, we can afford to give sade the help he needs just now.

Sade, I remembered earlier you mentioned to me that Crisler said SSRIs may have caused this. Not saying that they did but again I would ask you look into this, if you are not responding to TRT that is a hallmark of the problem.
 
Nice. He's said he's been in rehab for months, obviously this has taken a lot out of his life, and you just want to troll him. If we can afford to give the casino bank speculators hundreds of billions to bail them out, we can afford to give sade the help he needs just now.

Sade, I remembered earlier you mentioned to me that Crisler said SSRIs may have caused this. Not saying that they did but again I would ask you look into this, if you are not responding to TRT that is a hallmark of the problem.

I took nearly every SSRI from 2004-2010. I haven't touched them in two years since April 2010 (when I first joined this board). This happened after a cycle though. It was a few days after pct.
 
Taken this morning at 10:30 am and just got result back by e-mail!!

LUTEINISING HORMONE *9.7 IU/L 1.7 - 8.6

Testosterone result will come this Thursday. Both LH and T taken at 10:30 in the morning. Totally clean. no booze only clonazepam at night to help sleep.

Structure bro I think this is genetic. 9.7 man. That is high. T level is on it's way.

It was taken at 10:30 and i woke got out of bed at 7.
 
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...like I said guys, quit feeding this troll new material and let this thread die off...hebs

Let your crisler bum licking die off. If you respond in my thread again you will get the most angry outburst directed towards you and your motherfucker TRT doctor who didn't give a shit that I travelled from the UK just to see him.

Dr Crisler: "Your testosterone levels are really good. Your Free Testosterone is very good indeed. It was 34.6 on a range of 10 - 27.0."

Back home Crisler on phone: Your testicles are fucked but............, then he see's my T level and says that they're not fucked. T was good. LH was 11.4 which is why he thought my balls were fucked at first until he saw the T level and over the reference range Bioavailable Testosterone level. The test was taken at 1:30 pm and Crisler is a fucking cunt who doesn't give a fuck about his patients unless they have shitty low T.

You see I had symptoms of low T after abusing androgens, had high LH and androgen levels but this fucker isn't an endo and had no clue what the fuck my problem was. He never once told me that high LH means that I need more T and that my nuts aren't producing enough.

He charges just over $800 for blood tests on first visit.

I travelled from UK to USA to see the supreme TRT doc but he wasted my money and couldn't help me. I had an appointment with Thierry Hertoghe in Feb but decided to see this supreme master of TRT instead. I wasted my money. He didn't help and didn't want to. After all he does have many other patients to deal with but in my book nhe is a fuckwit. And hebsie can keep licing his ass as long as it makes him feel like a man.
 
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Crisler said:
You have only reported SUBJECTIVE (what you claim to feel) symptoms. There is absolutely no objective evidence of the diagnosis you claim.

Your LH matches your testosterone output. This is simple physiology.

Your LH matches your testosterone output. This is simple physiology.]/QUOTE]

Complete bullshit! You're so full of shit Crisler.

JanSz said:
sade is or was at some time, patient of Dr. John Crisler;

Dr. John Crisler; speaks with a greater knowledge than jus what is provided be sade ether here or on meso board.

If possible I would like to know why his BAT & LH were over top range at the same time?

Dr Crisler said:
I don't remember who it may be, IF he is actually telling the truth about that.

But I have treated many men with good serum androgen levels, but the symptoms of hypogonadism.

Either way, Androgen Resistance is not a diagnosis gained without full evaluation. And I guarantee THAT did not happen in his case, as he is a "jack rabbit".

To answer your question, his LH matches his testosterone output. That's how the body works

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I would leave symptoms of hypogonadism for latter.

Suggest next step, figure out why his LH is high?

Hebsie. If you ever respond in one of my threads again i will come down on you and Crisler like a ton of bricks. Don't forget that.
 
What symptoms do you have sade? I once read something about AIS in women and afair women who have AIS have no pubes because they don't respond to the androgens. I wonder what are the symptoms of men with AIS?
 
What symptoms do you have sade? I once read something about AIS in women and afair women who have AIS have no pubes because they don't respond to the androgens. I wonder what are the symptoms of men with AIS?

I was never able to gain any muscle mass. I was born skinny. 6ft and around 150Ibs. I took loads of cycle of steroids and didn't gain (only water weight) even though I was training heavily 3-4 times a week and eating 3000 calories a day.

I took Test Enanthate for 9 months and lost libido and erections after coming off. My main symptom is ED.
 
Let your crisler bum licking die off. If you respond in my thread again you will get the most angry outburst directed towards you and your motherfucker TRT doctor who didn't give a shit that I travelled from the UK just to see him.

Dr Crisler: "Your testosterone levels are really good. Your Free Testosterone is very good indeed. It was 34.6 on a range of 10 - 27.0."

Back home Crisler on phone: Your testicles are fucked but............, then he see's my T level and says that they're not fucked. T was good. LH was 11.4 which is why he thought my balls were fucked at first until he saw the T level and over the reference range Bioavailable Testosterone level. The test was taken at 1:30 pm and Crisler is a fucking cunt who doesn't give a fuck about his patients unless they have shitty low T.

You see I had symptoms of low T after abusing androgens, had high LH and androgen levels but this fucker isn't an endo and had no clue what the fuck my problem was. He never once told me that high LH means that I need more T and that my nuts aren't producing enough.

He charges just over $800 for blood tests on first visit.

I travelled from UK to USA to see the supreme TRT doc but he wasted my money and couldn't help me. I had an appointment with Thierry Hertoghe in Feb but decided to see this supreme master of TRT instead. I wasted my money. He didn't help and didn't want to. After all he does have many other patients to deal with but in my book nhe is a fuckwit. And hebsie can keep licing his ass as long as it makes him feel like a man.
wtf? man your imagination gets more fucked up each post
 
@ sade

Are you sure your problem is hormonal? Could it also be some kind of muscle disease or something?
And are you skinny or skinny-fat? I wish I was at least skinny and not skinny-fat. Skinny-fat is even worse than only skinny.
I also wonder how's your strength? There are people who are skinny and still are relatively strong. How about you?
 
Taken this morning at 10:30 am and just got result back by e-mail!!

LUTEINISING HORMONE *9.7 IU/L 1.7 - 8.6

Testosterone result will come this Thursday. Both LH and T taken at 10:30 in the morning. Totally clean. no booze only clonazepam at night to help sleep.

Structure bro I think this is genetic. 9.7 man. That is high. T level is on it's way.

It was taken at 10:30 and i woke got out of bed at 7.

TESTOSTERONE 27.2 nmol/L 7.6 - 31.4 Thats a 783.36 ng/dl. An ASI of 263.84.

Whew!! Thank fuck for that.
 
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@ sade

Are you sure your problem is hormonal? Could it also be some kind of muscle disease or something?
And are you skinny or skinny-fat? I wish I was at least skinny and not skinny-fat. Skinny-fat is even worse than only skinny.
I also wonder how's your strength? There are people who are skinny and still are relatively strong. How about you?

I was kind of lying about the 3000+ calories bit. I never counted or anything. I did make some gains but NOT the same that some other normal guy who would have took and done what I did for that amount of time on such a high dose of test.
 
How's your body hair?
If you have AIS then shouldn't you also have very little body hair?
I don't know much about AIS but I'm also going to lend this one book about andrology and look into it.
If you for example juice and you grow more body hair but don't gain muscles then this would be something different than if you neither get more hair nor more muscles.
 
TESTOSTERONE 27.2 nmol/L 7.6 - 31.4 Thats a 783.36 ng/dl. An ASI of 263.84.

Whew!! Thank fuck for that.

Very interesting, that's for sure. Your bloodwork certainly suggests MAIS. It's certainly back on the table, now that you've been sober for this long, and still test with a high ASI.

Now for fuck's sake, get the fucking test already!!
 
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