One more thing

[sade]

Very interesting, that's for sure. Your bloodwork certainly suggests MAIS. It's certainly back on the table, now that you've been sober for this long, and still test with a high ASI.

Now for fuck's sake, get the fucking test already!!

TESTOSTERONE 27.2 nmol/L 7.6 - 31.4 Thats a 783.36 ng/dl. An ASI of 263.84.

Whew!! Thank fuck for that.

Here is even better news. The result he sent me by e-mail was incorrect. I got the actual PDF today and the real T resut is:

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They got my my date of birth wrong, it's actually 7/9/1980. Remember the day comes before the month over here. Thats 7th Sept 1980.

Anyways, the ASI is now 268.89. I can't believe the T level has bounced back up to 27.7 which is 798.27 ng/dl. with the LH of 9.7. I wonder how high they would have at 8-9 in the morning?

 

[sade]

wtf? man your imagination gets more fucked up each post

And whats even better is that they can't prove me wrong in my journey. They know I'm right.

 

[sade]

. My next blood test will show elevated T and LH levels. No doubt about it. Elevated motherfucking T and LH levels.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnqZl_blT7E&feature=related]Rocky Balboa - Getting strong now - HD 720p - YouTube[/ame]

 

[sade]

I know that she reads this forum and has figured out who I am.

It's not hard man. How many 31 year old guys can't get it up?

I'll get that test. It defines me. MAIS is what I'm all about. I will get that test i just need to know that she hasn't fucked anyone else ever since i asked her out?

 

[Structure]

I know that she reads this forum and has figured out who I am.

It's not hard man. How many 31 year old guys can't get it up?

I'll get that test. It defines me. MAIS is what I'm all about. I will get that test i just need to know that she hasn't fucked anyone else ever since i asked her out?

Yes, get the test. At this point, it shouldn't be too hard. Just go to any local average endo, show him the note you have, the literature on ASI, as well as your numerous blood tests, and tell him that not everyone agrees on the diagnosis.

Tell him that you want the test to put the hypothesis to rest one way or another, and that you are willing to pay for it out of pocket if you have to. Have the form filled out, and ready for him to sign. I can resend you the link to the test form if you need it.

It's a reasonable request, and if the first local endo won't help you, the second or third will. All you need is one endo to sign off on the paper; it's no additional work for him to do (since you have the form ready to go), and no risk for him to approve.

 

[sade]

Yes, get the test. At this point, it shouldn't be too hard. Just go to any local average endo, show him the note you have, the literature on ASI, as well as your numerous blood tests, and tell him that not everyone agrees on the diagnosis.

Tell him that you want the test to put the hypothesis to rest one way or another, and that you are willing to pay for it out of pocket if you have to. Have the form filled out, and ready for him to sign. I can resend you the link to the test form if you need it.

It's a reasonable request, and if the first local endo won't help you, the second or third will. All you need is one endo to sign off on the paper; it's no additional work for him to do (since you have the form ready to go), and no risk for him to approve.

I'm going back to the same guy who diagnosed me. You helped me when no one else could. You did it bro. You almost saved me and I thank you with everything I still have left in me.

show him the note you have, the literature on ASI

You mean this note?

I think the combined finding of raised testosterone and LH concentrations taken together with his high normal SHBG and HDL cholesterol are all indicative of a mild form of the androgen insensitivity syndrome

 

[Structure]

I'm going back to the same guy who diagnosed me. You helped me when no one else could. You did it bro. You almost saved me and I thank you with everything I still have left in me.



You mean this note?

Yeah, that's the one. I'm glad to help! Let's give this issue closure one way or another. That test is the way to do it.

 

[sade]

Yeah, that's the one. I'm glad to help! Let's give this issue closure one way or another. That test is the way to do it.

Just one thing though before I do. I really need to learn how to live with a straight head. I stop for a while then go back on.

ps:

I thank every guy who told me to get off the booze, that it's totally screwing me up and that it's my main problem. You were right guys.

 

[Structure]

Just one thing though before I do. I really need to learn how to live with a straight head. I stop for a while then go back on.

ps:

I thank every guy who told me to get off the booze, that it's totally screwing me up and that it's my main problem. You were right guys.

This is pretty arbitrary. Being able to quit booze does not affect your genetic makeup, nor does it affect your ability to get the test results.

Whatever your plans are regarding sobriety, you can do it at the same time you pursue this test.

This is just another self imposed rule to avoid doing what must be done. Get the test!

 

[sade]

This is pretty arbitrary. Being able to quit booze does not affect your genetic makeup, nor does it affect your ability to get the test results.

Whatever your plans are regarding sobriety, you can do it at the same time you pursue this test.

This is just another self imposed rule to avoid doing what must be done. Get the test!

Next app with endo is in August. I'm looking for work at the mo though. I have to start from rockbottom and work my way up. I wasted nearly everything I had on booze, pot and blood tests.

 

[sade]

Been through rehab for an alcohol problem and came out pretty good. drinking only on weekends or even not at all. i then fuck up again get hold of some clonazepam to help me sleep blah blah blah.... I end up taking 200 2mg tabs in the space of two week. start feeling funny after running out and so goes back on the booze but this time, 'NOT' for a buzz, just to feel normal. If I don't drink I feel as though i'm going to collapse and pass out. I have no options left. Should I just ride it out and die? or order some more benzos.

I'm not eating. Lost almost 45 pounds in the space of a month.

 

[idmd]

Been through rehab for an alcohol problem and came out pretty good. drinking only on weekends or even not at all. i then fuck up again get hold of some clonazepam to help me sleep blah blah blah.... I end up taking 200 2mg tabs in the space of two week. start feeling funny after running out and so goes back on the booze but this time, 'NOT' for a buzz, just to feel normal. If I don't drink I feel as though i'm going to collapse and pass out. I have no options left. Should I just ride it out and die? or order some more benzos.

I'm not eating. Lost almost 45 pounds in the space of a month.

I think you need to go back to rehab. I come from a long line of fall down drunks. Some achieved sobriety and some died drunks. You're either on or off the wagon. Weekend drinking = off.

You will always be an alcoholic. You will never be "normal" when it comes to drinking. My father was sober for 8 years before dying at age 48 from cancer and they were the best 8 years we had together. I grew up hating him and his drinking and was perfectly willing to forgive when he was sober for good. He got sober by doing 2 AA meetings per day, 7 days per week for 4 years. Finally after 4 years he was able to only do 4 or 5 meetings per week. Even after going through two rounds of chemo he never drank again.

 

[sade]

I think you need to go back to rehab. I come from a long line of fall down drunks. Some achieved sobriety and some died drunks. You're either on or off the wagon. Weekend drinking = off.

You will always be an alcoholic. You will never be "normal" when it comes to drinking. My father was sober for 8 years before dying at age 48 from cancer and they were the best 8 years we had together. I grew up hating him and his drinking and was perfectly willing to forgive when he was sober for good. He got sober by doing 2 AA meetings per day, 7 days per week for 4 years. Finally after 4 years he was able to only do 4 or 5 meetings per week. Even after going through two rounds of chemo he never drank again.

thanks for that man, appreciate it. my old man was a drunk too and lost everything. 3 degrees good job, good money, a loving wife and two healthy kids but the bastard blew it and i'm turning the same though i'm still young enough to turn my life around.

rehab isn't an option for me anymore. i need a job and can't afford to live like this anymore. i'm going to ride it out.

 

[idmd]

thanks for that man, appreciate it. my old man was a drunk too and lost everything. 3 degrees good job, good money, a loving wife and two healthy kids but the bastard blew it and i'm turning the same though i'm still young enough to turn my life around.

rehab isn't an option for me anymore. i need a job and can't afford to live like this anymore. i'm going to ride it out.

FWIW my father did rehab twice and it wasn't successful. When he finally got sober (he'd drink a tall water glass of vodka uncut in 5 mins) he detoxed himself on the coach over three days. They day he started I remember coming home and stepping over him on my way to my room to bang the shit out of girlfriend.

I thought he was dying to be honest. Probably a couple weeks before I even noticed he wasn't dead and he was sober.

Point is he did it without rehab.

 

[sade]

FWIW my father did rehab twice and it wasn't successful. When he finally got sober (he'd drink a tall water glass of vodka uncut in 5 mins) he detoxed himself on the coach over three days. They day he started I remember coming home and stepping over him on my way to my room to bang the shit out of girlfriend.

I thought he was dying to be honest. Probably a couple weeks before I even noticed he wasn't dead and he was sober.

Point is he did it without rehab.

that's good to hear. thanks. I might try something like that out.

 

[sade]

http://www.aaf-online.org/php/member_area/onlinecases/index.php?act=view&id=113 (Online Case Library)

His T was 1780 ng/dl.

I'd do anything, anything to find out what my natural T level was before ever touching anabolic steroids.

 

[sade]

Get the test!

I was going to wait till after the endo app and till i find a job but fuck it man. I can afford it. it's either that or killing myself softly.

Let this thread rest in peace.

 

[JOWS6]

http://www.aaf-online.org/php/member_area/onlinecases/index.php?act=view&id=113 (Online Case Library)

His T was 1780 ng/dl.

I'd do anything, anything to find out what my natural T level was before ever touching anabolic steroids.

Interesting. I wonder why the didn't test DHT levels to rule out a 5-alpha reductase deficiency?

I don't frequent the boards often but I check this thread periodically. I wish the best for you! Hang in there! I had severe anxiety a few years back and to me, there was only a tiny light shining through the head of a needle in all the darkness that surrounded me. Thankfully I prevailed. What helped me get through it was reading about celebrities that had panic disorder - especially athletes. It made me feel not alone in this fight. I would look into celebrites that have maintained sobriety for encouragement.

I am not too fond of Eminem's music but he had a rough patch in his life a few years ago and was abusing prescription drugs and alcohol. His latest song, "I'm Not Afraid" talks about his struggles and it's a very inspirational song.

He wrote this song during his dark patch. "Beautiful":

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgT1AidzRWM]Eminem - Beautiful - YouTube[/ame]


"Not afraid":

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-yKhDd64s]Eminem - Not Afraid - YouTube[/ame]


Again, I wish the best for you!

 

[hardasnails1973]

Did you get an appointment to see Dr Mouton. I sent a few more guys his way. Paid advertisment LOL

 

[coolcat20]