Voltrader
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We opposed that too....this is a UGL selling one product. Not a group funded project.
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One Pharma
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Not a kitchen op. what would you do to ensure proper dosage? keep in mind MS is not available to you. I have yet to hear a better option.
I just brewed 50 grams in my kitchen. My powder tested at 85% ms. I brewed 200ml. The concentration is around 212mg/ml. The gear is smooth with no pip. I have no concerns for my safety because I made it. I'm not saying that the kitchen is a bad place, but you should know the cook.
Speaking of... is this the same guy, different handle? wasn't he brewing Test C? I haven't peeped that thread in a minute.
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That would be really really stupid. I don't think anyone would be so foolish. I have been wrong in the past though.
I'm not saying he is wrong for forming a collective. I'm just saying you should know who the mixologist is.
That would be really really stupid. I don't think anyone would be so foolish. I have been wrong in the past though.
I'm not saying he is wrong for forming a collective. I'm just saying you should know who the mixologist is.
One Pharma
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I agree you should know or trust who you are getting from if at all possible.
and no I am not affiliated with the other group in any way.
I am only here to provide one product. Ive always been a fan of the KISS rule.
Keep it simple stupid
and no I am not affiliated with the other group in any way.
I am only here to provide one product. Ive always been a fan of the KISS rule.
Keep it simple stupid
One Pharma
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Someone asked earlier if I could handle heavy volume. Yes, since I will be ordering by the batch and depending on how fast one sells is going to determine how big my next order will be.
Hillbilly111
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We all know you have no way of proving that you are legit. Anything can be faked. But shouldnt you at least try? Lol
One Pharma
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I will be! That's why i'm posting all my tests and results on here and encouraging anyone who has their independent testing done to post them and pm me as well for compensation.
curgen
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Just curious. Which UGLs do you know of that guarantee dosage or safety? A lot of them say so, of course. And how many UGLs disclose the identity of their chef?
Assuming the you are in the US, steroids are illegal to purchase. So what recourse do you have? FIle a claim with the BBB? Write up a shitty Yelp review? Angie's List?
This is a black market. There are no guarantees with anyone. About anything. Ever. It's not like finding a hair in your sandwich at Schlotzsky's and getting a $5 coupon from the manager. There is no Best Buy price match guarantee.
Even reputable UGLs will tell customers to get fucked if they feel like they're trying to pull some scam to get free shit.
I wholeheartedly support any effort at due diligence. Asking for money-back guarantees and the identity of the cook is not reasonable, IMO.
It's a little different when you're mixing up 50ml for personal use in a kitchen, compared to 50 liters...
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Marcus
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With this logic, all UGLs would have free reign to do what they want.... They almost do and with your ideas, it only perpetuates that paradigm.
No the bbb isn't set up for us. There are ugl's who have provided information that the members here ask for from sources who set up business here.
I'm realistic. I like the idea of informed consent. Just be upfront about what you are and you have no issue with me. I'm big on the free market concept. If you have a poor product, in a open market place like meso, it well not be a secret long. Like wise of guys are seeing results and no one has to be treated for a staff infection, the positive stuff well be known as well.
Like I said I have no issues with the gear I made in my kitchen, but with the volume a source will see here when the word gets out, well you be able to keep up with quality control or will you want to pacify the guys slamming you on your thread because you are a week late with their order?
Most new sources have no idea what they are getting into.
I'm realistic. I like the idea of informed consent. Just be upfront about what you are and you have no issue with me. I'm big on the free market concept. If you have a poor product, in a open market place like meso, it well not be a secret long. Like wise of guys are seeing results and no one has to be treated for a staff infection, the positive stuff well be known as well.
Like I said I have no issues with the gear I made in my kitchen, but with the volume a source will see here when the word gets out, well you be able to keep up with quality control or will you want to pacify the guys slamming you on your thread because you are a week late with their order?
Most new sources have no idea what they are getting into.
curgen
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They already do, Marcus. The only thing we can do is report back to one another and try to reach a consensus. We haven't gotten that far with this guy yet. It's a process that takes months.
This is and will be the way it is with all sources unless or until AAS are legalized. So somewhere around the year 2040 or so, after which we're all living blissfully in Pharmaville.
This is and will be the way it is with all sources unless or until AAS are legalized. So somewhere around the year 2040 or so, after which we're all living blissfully in Pharmaville.
curgen
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I could easily agree with this.
It's also worth noting that home-brewers have the exact same quality problem that UGL customers have. If anyone is stepping on the raws, it's being done overseas. There is little incentive to do so in the States because the numbers work just fine without it.
If there is a trust issue, it's with the short, sweating bald Chinaman exporter that has nothing but contempt for all Americans and their vanity that doesn't give even half a shit if they get heavy metals or anything else, much less decent purity levels.
But you're right. If you brew a really sour batch, it's only you that's doing the whole fetal-position-in-the-back-of-an-ambulance routine.
Marcus
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And that reporting back is the underground's "yelp" or whatever you wanna call it (or as you reffered to it in your first post, which by the way offer no guarantee either), this is he only reason that they don't have complete and full reign, because of sites like these where honest feedback can be left. That consensus is our means of keeping these labs in check and allowing other members and non-members to make an informed, educated decision. There are no guarantees here, but brother... There are no guarantees in the real world either. There are laws, statues and all kinds of red tape to help a consumer, any and everyone can get fucked, and while it may be harder and usually those with more money for a better lawyer come out on top, there are NO guarantees. So we do are best and that's it.
I don't know what the problem is with Confucius. It wasn't so long ago I recognized that the Chinese were good people to do business with. Pre Beijing Olympics. Every thing went to fuck after that.
Just saying we have to police the place in good conscious in order to insure no one is injured because we didn't ask a few questions.
Just saying we have to police the place in good conscious in order to insure no one is injured because we didn't ask a few questions.
One Pharma
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I'm glad everyone realizes this is underground and not going to be pharmaceutical grade or purity (unless you get really lucky, who knows). China is extremely unpredictable, you have to test and hope for the best. Btw samples have been sent and tests are coming out next week hopefully.
Colt44
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Who are the samples sent to?
johnnyBALLZ
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Hopefully he means he sent samples to a lab for testing...
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