I would say 7-10 anything after seven days it's probably starting to degrade alil bit.... But usually with a vial of 10iu it's gone by 7 days even if u do 2iu a day.... There might be something in the lab testing section that jano and liska did on gh I would check out that thread it's called something like "degradation"
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I would say 7-10 anything after seven days it's probably starting to degrade alil bit.... But usually with a vial of 10iu it's gone by 7 days even if u do 2iu a day.... There might be something in the lab testing section that jano and liska did on gh I would check out that thread it's called something like "degradation"
Black Beard
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Running the Opti black tops at 3.3 IU daily, going to run IGF-1 labs in 4 weeks for everybody.
Clappincheeks
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Any differences so far?
Black Beard
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Yeah, less bloat for sure. I started holding more water recently on some generic chinese blue tops i had laying around. Decided to try the Opti Blacks to see if it would mitigate the bloat and 3 days later it's working and i'm dryer already. Crossing my fingers for some good IGF-1 response.
I'm usually a Meditrope guy (mauves) and have a good amount of labs for comparison.
I'll post the Opti Black tops IGF-1 labs as soon as i get them as i know there isn't a lot on here yet for them. (No weird variables like trenbolone use, AI/SERM, caloric deficit, metformin etc to skew results)
Clappincheeks
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Looking forward to the result. I was thinking about placing an order for black tops. I’ve always run the grays though.
I don't think you can go wrong with the grey tops, being there produced in a high end lab under strict control, although the black tops did test hogher purity wise. And you have some really high end blue tops going around right now with purity near high 98 purity..... Grey tops always seem to score extremely well with igf-1 blood test
Black Beard
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My SO is running them too. She is also dropping a ton of water since the switch from generic blues to opti black tops.
Aftermath9716
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how much bactiostatic water u put in the green top?
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Roguespear1226
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I feel it prudent to add as well. No real side effects at this dose either. Maybe a little water retention to begin with but that went away after a few days. Joint stiffness a little bit in the knees, but I’m prone to that and I run/XCski over 50 miles per week. Great product from a great supplier. Maybe I’ll give the black tops a go next time as I hear great things in the forums.
Black Beard
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Morning / evening? Once daily? SQ ? IM? Thanks for sharing labs
Roguespear1226
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2iu upon waking before cardio and 2iu right before bed(about 8:30-9pm). Both are SQ.
Black Beard
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@opti What's the story with the black tops manufacturer? Are they also licensed GMP? Are they meant as a back up source? Love hearing the back stories behind these things.
In the years since opti started his gh biz, have yet to hear a person say opti didnt come through. Bump for the bro opti
clearheaded
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curious is the website legit? got an email from a second email addy from opti (just capital letter different but showed up as Dif address) ... just threw me off as sorta seemed like one of those email hijack scams.
T&H
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The sema 4mg is a kit of 10, right? Just making sure, thanks
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