ThatGuy500mg
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I just ordered some. I want to see for myself with the mixed reviews. Hopefully they come out fine. But I’ll check back when they land and get it reconned.
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BALLISTIC
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I have 1 kit Crystal clear. The others are clouds. 6 kits total, 12 kits gold. All gold's are crystal.
Infernalmango
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I was thinking about trying blues. How cloudy? Can you post a pic if you get a chance? I’m still holding out for the potential sale, but may just go with the gold faithfuls
BALLISTIC
Member
I don't have a pic or 1 recon currently when I do I'll drop it for you. I also haven't filtered like others. I purchase my annual HGH all at once so I went to gold just to not deal with it lately. 1 kit I recon 3 vials total that were clear. After others reported I did one from each kit. 5 kits cloudy. 6 kits total, I didn't know if there is a batch difference either. I bother Opti often with questions and he's great, so I didn't want to be a Nancy. If nobody else does I'll email him no problem. If somebody mentions it to him, I'm sure he'll eventually pop in and comment. Foggy.
Gold is the way to go. Buy once cry once. Price wise it's a win if your dosing justifies the potency.
Edit: you asked how cloudy? Mine were fairly cloudy and didn't settle either. Like powder in water.
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Jsilk757
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Just my experience from Opti’s hgh
I’ve done multiple kits of greys and golds with no cloudiness. I only use hospira bac water ( I got a script from my doc, so I get it a case at a time from Walmart pharmacy)
Vials and bac are both kept in the fridge. I pull them both out, add bac water (greys get 1.3ml, golds get 3ml). I shoot the water directly in it and shake/swirl not super aggressively but not gently either. I do this for 1-2 mins then pop back in the fridge
Occasionally there may be a small floater or two at the bottom of the vial. But I’ll come back after 1 hr or so, pull the vial from the fridge, and the floater is gone. I’ll give it a few shakes and toss it right back in the fridge. No cloudiness issues to speak of
I’ve read people comments about being very gentle with the water running down the side and not shaking the vial. But I’ve also read that hgh is not that fragile and temperature “fluctuations” is worst then direct water/shaking. I don’t know what’s true or not, but I try to keep the vials temp as consistent to fridge temp as a priority. So the vials are only out of the fridge 1-2mins at a time
I’ve done multiple kits of greys and golds with no cloudiness. I only use hospira bac water ( I got a script from my doc, so I get it a case at a time from Walmart pharmacy)
Vials and bac are both kept in the fridge. I pull them both out, add bac water (greys get 1.3ml, golds get 3ml). I shoot the water directly in it and shake/swirl not super aggressively but not gently either. I do this for 1-2 mins then pop back in the fridge
Occasionally there may be a small floater or two at the bottom of the vial. But I’ll come back after 1 hr or so, pull the vial from the fridge, and the floater is gone. I’ll give it a few shakes and toss it right back in the fridge. No cloudiness issues to speak of
I’ve read people comments about being very gentle with the water running down the side and not shaking the vial. But I’ve also read that hgh is not that fragile and temperature “fluctuations” is worst then direct water/shaking. I don’t know what’s true or not, but I try to keep the vials temp as consistent to fridge temp as a priority. So the vials are only out of the fridge 1-2mins at a time
BatmanVAR
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I'm having an issue since starting Opti blues. For context, I've been running 4IUs daily from another vendor for about 2 months with no issues. I had VERY slight CTS on my right hand but really only if I made exaggerated movements looking for it.
I then switched to Opti blacks, ran a kit of those for 20 days (5.08IUs per day) without issue.
4 days ago I switched to Opti blues, half a vial per day (5.43IUs per day). After 2 days I noticed my CTS was a bit worse. After 3 days it was noticeably worse to the point it woke me up. After 4 days it's so bad that I can't fully make a fist with my right hand.
So I'm completely stopping and waiting for it to completely go away, then I'll switch to Opti golds or my previous vendor (I have stock of both) at the same dose and see how they goes. If those are fine, I'll try the blues again and see if the issue returns.
Disclaimer: the day my CTS starting getting worse/the day I started blues was also the day I got really sick with what I assume to be the flu or covid. I want to mention this because I have no idea if an illness would exacerbate CTS. My whole body feels like death, I have chills and body aches, etc. so maybe it's making my CTS worse. ChatGPT says illnesses can make CTS worse, so hopefully that's all this is, but ChatGPT is wrong so often that it's hard to tell.
Also FWIW none of mine have been cloudy.
I then switched to Opti blacks, ran a kit of those for 20 days (5.08IUs per day) without issue.
4 days ago I switched to Opti blues, half a vial per day (5.43IUs per day). After 2 days I noticed my CTS was a bit worse. After 3 days it was noticeably worse to the point it woke me up. After 4 days it's so bad that I can't fully make a fist with my right hand.
So I'm completely stopping and waiting for it to completely go away, then I'll switch to Opti golds or my previous vendor (I have stock of both) at the same dose and see how they goes. If those are fine, I'll try the blues again and see if the issue returns.
Disclaimer: the day my CTS starting getting worse/the day I started blues was also the day I got really sick with what I assume to be the flu or covid. I want to mention this because I have no idea if an illness would exacerbate CTS. My whole body feels like death, I have chills and body aches, etc. so maybe it's making my CTS worse. ChatGPT says illnesses can make CTS worse, so hopefully that's all this is, but ChatGPT is wrong so often that it's hard to tell.
Also FWIW none of mine have been cloudy.
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ThatGuy500mg
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I only picked up three kits and a Reta kit(didn’t see any negative feedback on those). Hopefully these are g2g because I think that’s all I’ll need before dropping to trt only for a couple months of a health phase this summer.
Ranger1850
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Has Opti stated when the injectables and tabs will be for sale again? I know the site states within a few weeks however I believe we are right at that point now. Need to get some stuff ASAP…..
rtrnofbesoge
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rtrnofbesoge
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Lets put it this way, I've done the same thing with other vendors and have gotten results in the mid 20s. I was shocked to see this
Jsilk757
Member
I had less then expected IGF1 results from the amount I was taking. So I sent out grey top for testing (results posted on here and testing forum). Results came back almost exactly at what Opti posted on his website. So greys are true quality of what he has posted
RockyP
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Sounds like you should stick with the blue tops. They are clearly stronger / overdosed judging by your symptoms. Just adjust your dosage down.
THIS is the only reason some people prefer to spend the coin on pharma GH. Less variance from batch to batch and vial to vial. I always lower my dosage about 30% when starting a new brand / batch that I haven’t been running. The UGL GH isn’t only cheap. It’s often overdosed.
so far from my reading over the past month theres been no issues cloudiness wise w greys , one person elsehwere reportedly cloudiness w golds, but here seem greys and golds have been the go to is that correct? would like my next order from opti to be an annual growth order and go with whats been held in highest regard
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Jsilk757
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Rarely have I seen a seasoned meso member having continuous issues with any of opti’s hgh
Given there may be a vial in a random kit of a multitude of kits that opti sales. that may have a issue but those could be from a pleather of reasonings ( storage/shipping/bac water used/are they filtering it correctly or incorrectly/ contamination ect). But none of his products has had a track record of issues.
No matter what product one buys from any store in the world that sells mass produced items, you’re bound to have a small nominal amount of defects here and there.
So I wouldn’t worry too much about purchasing any of optis colored tops. Pick which ones suit you the best based on purpose/pric. You really can’t go wrong with this source
do filled vials have a duration once filtered/filled at which they expire? have probably 3-4 months left of sermorelin, but was going to do the math to breakdown cost per iu of golds vs greys, would prob only run 2-3.5iu daily which is why i asked about a filled vials duration bc the golds would last a while..
I said fk it and bought Optitropin rather than wait for sale.
Have any of you guys experienced waking up earlier than desired while on GH? I usually get to bed around 11 and am consistently waking up around 4-5am, and hour or two before I'd like. Getting prolactin and cortisol tested next week. Glucose is in good range. Only running 2iu taken before bed for now.
BatmanVAR
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Evening HGH wrecks my sleep. All blood work showed everything is good. Only fix was to start injecting in the mornings.
BigDadd7
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Try taking it in the morning instead
ThatGuy500mg
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I’m pretty fresh to the gh game as well. I wouldn’t say I’ve had this issue but I haven’t noticed any of the positive sleep effects yet(3IU) but I actually have some sort of weird anxiety response when trying to go to sleep since I’ve started using. Maybe the quality of my sleep is better, but like you I am only sleeping around 5-6 hrs most nights and just waking up without being able to go back to bed.
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