Optimizing my TRT, having some issues at the moment!

Xilence7

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Hey all,

I'm on TRT for the last 7 months, started with test C but shortly after preloaded and went with Undecanoate ester, pinning 300mg every 2 weeks.

I'm having some issues at the moment, which are not that bad, but still I want to improve as much as I can so I want to hear your opinion what should I do/try to mitigate these side effects.

300mg test Undecanoate every 2 weeks IM
no AI
lifting 4x a week
very lean, around 10% bodyfat

Problems:
- started having 140-150 / 80-90 blood pressure readings, nothing too high, but still I was always on the lower side like 110/70 before TRT
- slight headaches during the day, prob due to high bp?
- feeling a little emotional and somehow bloated in the face, but nothing much

Last bloodwork a few days ago:

estradiol: 127.3 pmol/L - ref(55 - 122) - HIGH
total testosterone: 752 ng/dl
SHBG: 16 nmol/L (on the lower side)
free testosterone: 0.783 nmol/L - ref(0.091 - 0.579) - HIGH
free testosterone % : 3.00% - ref(1.59 - 2.95) - HIGH
bioavailable testosterone: 73.4 % - ref(37.3 - 69.1) - HIGH

I donated blood every 3 months since, didn't affect BP much, everything else including lipids, full blood panel is in the range.

From my understanding, my lower SHBG is making my free T out of the range which can be good because I need less testosterone to achieve high free T, which is the most important factor?
I'm not sure if my E2 is causing my high blood pressure, because is not THAT high, but I think lowering it to 80-90 might help?
Achieving that can be done by raising my SHBG somehow, which will "increase" my total T and decrease a little bit my free T to not to go over the range, and automatically excess free T won't be converted to the estrogen.

Now I'm changing some things in my lifestyle, I will do intermittent fasting 14 hours everyday, limit my sugar/carbs intake, and add x3 a week 15 minutes zone 4 cardio. I know it's hard to dial in with Undecanoate ester, but it's very convenient in my day to day life, since I travel ofter and I could easily preload double the dose and not to take a shot for a month or two without feeling low T.

I appreciate any help regarding the topic! I would like to hear from someone using the same ester or having the SHBG on the lower end, thanks!
 
I'm not sure if my E2 is causing my high blood pressure, because is not THAT high, but I think lowering it to 80-90 might help?
your e2 is in pmol/L unit. most people talk about their e2 in pg/mL unit.

converting your result to pg/mL will give 34.68 pg/mL. that is good amount of e2. not too low and not too high.

300mg test Undecanoate every 2 weeks IM
if you are able to pin once every 7 days even with the travelling you do, try doing that instead.
 
your e2 is in pmol/L unit. most people talk about their e2 in pg/mL unit.

converting your result to pg/mL will give 34.68 pg/mL. that is good amount of e2. not too low and not too high.


if you are able to pin once every 7 days even with the travelling you do, try doing that instead.
Yes sorry, when I convert it looks in the range, but with another reference range in which my test was, it's high.

I'm thinking a lot, should I continue, should I go with test Cyp, should I lower/upper the dose. A lot of people say more is less, especially with lower SHBG. I will try 140mg/weekly from the next week, so many thoughts on what to do that my head will explode.......
 
Where a person is in the range is the important part. And you are over he top. If you had got your blood work done using a different unit of measurement you would still be over the top. Most blood work numbers are not hard numbers but only valuable to he range that is used. How test are run, how machines are calibrated can change the result. But the result will still b e representative of the range used.
If you switch esters it may take you months to reach a stable state with test C considering the long ester you have been using. When i used to use long esters in my cycles it could easily take my 6 weeks to get back down to a more normal level.
 
Seems like something had to change since you've been on the protocol 7 months.
Sounds like maybe your body doesn't like higher levels of estrogen.
I would definitely suggest daily cardio if you're not already doing it. With BP as high as 150 I'd get that taken care of as soon as possible. I'd treat it myself or go to the doctor, but I don't mess around with my heart.
How are your electrolytes on your bloods?
 
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