Optimizing my TRT, having some issues at the moment!

[Xilence7]

Also - there are european based sources of blood pressure meds right here on the web site with good reviews.

It will, but not like coming and saying hey, I have high BP, I want meds. I will have to come a few times, each time waiting for hours, etc etc. And then talk why, reduce stress, bla bla bla come again and then maybe I will get it.

Great, didn't know that! It will be an option if it doesn't lower in 2 months changing lifestyle (sugars/cardio) and reducing the dose, for the next year I will be on them until I can safely get off and do PCT.

Thanks!

 

[Country Club Hero]

It will, but not like coming and saying hey, I have high BP, I want meds. I will have to come a few times, each time waiting for hours, etc etc. And then talk why, reduce stress, bla bla bla come again and then maybe I will get it.

Great, didn't know that! It will be an option if it doesn't lower in 2 months changing lifestyle (sugars/cardio) and reducing the dose, for the next year I will be on them until I can safely get off and do PCT.

Thanks!

You don’t need a script or to talk to anyone to purchase the BP meds from the places he’s talking about.

 

[Ghoul]

You don’t need a script or to talk to anyone to purchase the BP meds from the places he’s talking about.

Not to mention the fact that 95% of doctors don't properly address BP according to the guidelines from the EU and US cardiology associations.

For the last few years, experts on panels at their conferences have been raging at the fact not only do patients not adhere to BP treatment, but front line clinicians aren't taking this nearly as seriously as they should. There's no question this is the lowest hanging fruit for maintain good health over the long term.

Anything over 120/70 is now clearly understood to be harmful. Most docs do nothing until they see 140/80+, if that.

 

[Xilence7]

You don’t need a script or to talk to anyone to purchase the BP meds from the places he’s talking about.

Hilma where I get test doesn't have them, if you have any reputable EU source, feel free to msg me!

Not to mention the fact that 95% of doctors don't properly address BP according to the guidelines from the EU and US cardiology associations.

For the last few years, experts on panels at their conferences have been raging at the fact not only do patients not adhere to BP treatment, but front line clinicians aren't taking this nearly as seriously as they should. There's no question this is the lowest hanging fruit for maintain good health over the long term.

Anything over 120/70 is now clearly understood to be harmful. Most docs do nothing until they see 140/80+, if that.

Yes, especially here where I live, they will say you just got nervous while being here, it's okay, thank you bye next one haha

My second (resting BP) is now these days always less than 80, which is good, only my hearth beating BP is 140-150. Is it saying something?
One more thing is that I use creatine for years, but last months I figured out that I'm taking around 10g instead of 3g daily, which MAY contribute to BP? Or not, I stop taking it and will check, also started cycling after the workout for 20mins at 130-135 BPM

 

[malfeasance]

Anything over 120/70 is now clearly understood to be harmful. Most docs do nothing until they see 140/80+, if that.

Not sure what I would have to do to get mine under that. I am already a polypharmacy

Maybe starve myself under 200 pounds . . . not a step I am wanting to take

 

[Ghoul]

Not sure what I would have to do to get mine under that. I am already a polypharmacy

Maybe starve myself under 200 pounds . . . not a step I am wanting to take

From the same recent guidelines that establish over 120/70 as "Elevated", a low dose combo of 2.3, and now, in "resistant" cases 4 different classes of BP meds is seen as ideal, since they interact synergistically. ARB/CCB is the combo most frequently successful. It's preferable for adherence when they're in a single pill.

What are you on now?

 

[malfeasance]

From the same recent guidelines that establish over 120/70 as "Elevated", a low dose combo of 2.3, and now, in "resistant" cases 4 different classes of BP meds is seen as ideal, since they interact synergistically. ARB/CCB is the combo most frequently successful. It's preferable for adherence when they're in a single pill.

What are you on now?

ARB/CCB already

 

[Ghoul]

ARB/CCB already

The usual addition is a diuretic.

Which combo are you on? I found Telm/Amlodipine (aka "Twynsta") perfect for me. 40/5 brought me from 150/90 to 115/68 with no sides.

Several low-dose drugs better for BP than one pill: Australian meta-analysis - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[malfeasance]

amlodipine caused my ankles to swell up, along with the tops of my feet. Like a big mass of jiggly jello on top of each foot when I walked.

It was weird.

telmisartan 80 and metoprolol 50 but it is tartrate and once a day, which is odd but when I raised that with the dr the dr insisted

I was on 12.5 hctz years ago - massive cramping when I worked out and whenever it was hot outside and I engaged in activities outside. Arm would lock up in the position of the top of a hammer curl, whole front side of the abdomen . . . calves were awful anytime working calves or hamstrings or, weirdly, when doing lunges. I put up with it for a long time, tried supplementing various electrolytes. Nothing helped but stopping the HCTZ. The dr insisted it was in my head for a while. I still remember the first set of heavy squats I did after starting HCTZ, and I was seeing stars, which had never happened before. It was a lisinopril/hctz combo

 

[17SS]

amlodipine caused my ankles to swell up, along with the tops of my feet. Like a big mass of jiggly jello on top of each foot when I walked.

It was weird.

telmisartan 80 and metoprolol 50 but it is tartrate and once a day, which is odd but when I raised that with the dr the dr insisted

I was on 12.5 hctz years ago - massive cramping when I worked out and whenever it was hot outside and I engaged in activities outside. Arm would lock up in the position of the top of a hammer curl, whole front side of the abdomen . . . calves were awful anytime working calves or hamstrings or, weirdly, when doing lunges. I put up with it for a long time, tried supplementing various electrolytes. Nothing helped but stopping the HCTZ. The dr insisted it was in my head for a while. I still remember the first set of heavy squats I did after starting HCTZ, and I was seeing stars, which had never happened before. It was a lisinopril/hctz combo

Have you tried using compression socks/stockings? May have varicose veins that are barely visible.

 

[malfeasance]

Have you tried using compression socks/stockings? May have varicose veins that are barely visible.

Nope. I stopped taking amlodipine, and the issue went away. I had no reason to continue a drug to which I had a bad reaction and wear compression socks to combat the reaction.