Oral Kickstart Choice Dbol or Sdrol

[6tren]

Currently bulking and will be starting a basic cycle of 500 mg test 12-16 weeks and either
18 mg of dbol or 6 mg of sdrol a day for 4 weeks.

Pretty sensitive to compounds, I get very lethargic after 4 weeks of 20 mg anavar per day, even on 3grams+ of NAC.

Have tried dbol, I remember the euphoria and the stupid strength that came with it.
Never tried sdrol.

Which oral should I choose?

I'm leaning towards sdrol due to not gaining so much water weight and bumping up BP, not having to deal with e2 issues + gyno.
Since sdrol is DHT derived, will it affect the prostate?

 

[BigTomJ]

None. Kick-starting cycles is a great way to waste orals (which already aren't great)

If you want to run an oral, put it in the middle or the end of your cycle when your injectables are stabilized first.

 

[Astartes]

None. Kick-starting cycles is a great way to waste orals (which already aren't great)

If you want to run an oral, put it in the middle or the end of your cycle when your injectables are stabilized first.

^ This

 

[Goosejooce]

If anavar knocks you around like that, dont bother with superdrol - one of the harshest compounds you can take.

Personally i wouldnt kick start a cycle with an oral. All you are doing is stressing your body from the start.
Start at a modest dose, titrate up over the weeks and then maybe at the oral in at the end.
At the end of the day, orals are fun, but its easy come easy go in terms of gains

 

[narta]

^ This

+1

Better on the tail end of the cycle to give you that extra edge when things will likely stall/stabilize.

 

[6tren]

None. Kick-starting cycles is a great way to waste orals (which already aren't great)

If you want to run an oral, put it in the middle or the end of your cycle when your injectables are stabilized first.

Appreciate the advice @BigTomJ and everyone who replied.
I'll schedule the oral for later in the cycle.

I wanted to run NPP in this cycle but I'm currently in school and
don't want to risk any negative mental side effects as I've never used it.
So, I'm holding off on it until I go on break in a month.

How does this cycle sound?
Test c 500 mg week 1-16
NPP 30 mg week 4-16 (trial dose 10 mg 3x a week)
Oral of choice week 12-16

I have aromasin and caber on hand.

 

[BigTomJ]

Appreciate the advice @BigTomJ and everyone who replied.
I'll schedule the oral for later in the cycle.

I wanted to run NPP in this cycle but I'm currently in school and
don't want to risk any negative mental side effects as I've never used it.
So, I'm holding off on it until I go on break in a month.

How does this cycle sound?
Test c 500 mg week 1-16
NPP 30 mg week 4-16 (trial dose 10 mg 3x a week)
Oral of choice week 12-16

I have aromasin and caber on hand.

I would just save the npp entirely rather than playing around with such an insanely micro dose.

That 30mg isn't going to do much of anything.

 

[Sapopeluo]

None. Kick-starting cycles is a great way to waste orals (which already aren't great)

If you want to run an oral, put it in the middle or the end of your cycle when your injectables are stabilized first.

Nothing can be clearer than this man… give him a Beer at my name please!

 

[Avarice911]

Appreciate the advice @BigTomJ and everyone who replied.
I'll schedule the oral for later in the cycle.

I wanted to run NPP in this cycle but I'm currently in school and
don't want to risk any negative mental side effects as I've never used it.
So, I'm holding off on it until I go on break in a month.

How does this cycle sound?
Test c 500 mg week 1-16
NPP 30 mg week 4-16 (trial dose 10 mg 3x a week)
Oral of choice week 12-16

I have aromasin and caber on hand.

Save the NPP for when it’ll fit your life better for sure. Def a good plan to wait on the orals. The middle or back end is better to push through a plateau or push further

 

[DS3317]

The only thing id add is if you do want to run the npp maybe try this. Up it to 200-300.
I’d do a pyramid of sorts
Week1-4 500 test
4-8 add in npp
8-12 add in the oral

10-15mg of sdrol will kick the shit out of anything dbol or almost any other steroid would do.

 

[effswithtren]

1. Kickstarting is dumb. But I do it. I never said I was smart.

2. If superdrol is an option, superdrol is the answer. Including how best to shit out your liver.

 

[DS3317]

1. Kickstarting is dumb. But I do it. I never said I was smart.

2. If superdrol is an option, superdrol is the answer. Including how best to shit out your liver.

Shit out your liver? The effects of orals on the liver is so overhyped.

 

[effswithtren]

Shit out your liver? The effects of orals on the liver is so overhyped.

I’m mostly kidding. I agree. I’ve taken it 6wks @ 20mg and my AST ALT only went up 1pt when supplemented with TUDCA/NAC.

 

[MattDamon47]

For me personally I dose superdrol at 10mgs pre workout only. I find it really reduces side effects and doesn't effect my appetite. I supplement with nac and tudca and I only run for 3-6 weeks and you get great strength and fullness. Alt and ast barely move if at all. So I would do the first 4 weeks on this protocol and the final 4 weeks at the same protocol.

I’m mostly kidding. I agree. I’ve taken it 6wks @ 20mg and my AST ALT only went up 1pt when supplemented with TUDCA/NAC.

 

[effswithtren]

For me personally I dose superdrol at 10mgs pre workout only. I find it really reduces side effects and doesn't effect my appetite. I supplement with nac and tudca and I only run for 3-6 weeks and you get great strength and fullness. Alt and ast barely move if at all. So I would do the first 4 weeks on this protocol and the final 4 weeks at the same protocol.

See it’s the opposite for me. Seems like whether I take 10, 20, or 30 I start getting lethargic at the six week mark. I don’t get a whole lot from going to 30 so I just do the 20. I tried 10 thinking I’d go further but something about superdrol my body seems to just get tired either way.

Softer ones like anadrol or dbol I can do for awhile with smaller doses. I figure it’s just the potency. I get the same way when I fucked with mtren. Didn’t matter the dose, I’d get the squirts after about the same amount of time regardless.

 

[6tren]

Started the cycle 2 weeks ago: 500 mg test, 100 NPP

Have to take 20 mg aromasin eod, and my nips have started to look puffy, similar to how they would look when I would take HGH or mk667. This makes me think prolactin rather than estrogen is the issue. Will get blood work done soon before I pull the trigger on taking 0.5 mg of caber.

Good call on holding off on the oral until I hit a plateau, the NPP is really starting to shine.

 

[6tren]

Decided I'm going to be dbol in a week
thinking about 30 mg per day for 4 weeks
@BigTomJ how does that sound?

The only liver support I use is NAC, would it be wise to add glutathione?

Side note, my puffy nips issue got resolved by increasing my primo ace dosage from 25 mg pre workout to 50 mg split twice a day and I stopped using caber