Preferred DBol frequency, is it fine to take just pre workout or how often do y’all take it n how much?

[ChevChelios]

400 is fine if you're trying to be conservative, but 200 is unlikely to do anything noticeable.

I'm glad that 120 is helping you, but it's because now you "have normal test levels". If your goal is to use a supraphysiolocal dose and get the benefit of "using steroids", you're not really going to notice that at 200.

The point I was making, though, is that if you're already planning to go up to 400, just start injecting that. If you feel weird or anything goes wrong, just stop. It takes a couple weeks for your blood levels to actually come up to the 400 level, so you have time to react.

I had like 400/450 naturally so I wasn’t super low but well let’s say I wanted to optimise things n I guess I responded well or I dunno I’m getting a couple different blood works done soon so will be able to tell how much the 120 raised my levels but I wasn’t super low like some other people shit when I was a teen I was real high but it’s mostly due to past life choices n fked up stress situations n ptsd from losing homies murdered in front of me n stuff so that’s what I was told could lower your levels, since I was finna use regardless I thought might as well get on trt so I don’t have to go up n down n worry if I can’t source for some reason or whatever else, I’m not trying to ‘game the system’ even though some clinics kinda plan on people doing so ahah.
Anyways yeah I am very aware that 200 is real low that’s why I wrote I’m just going to ramp it up from 250 to 400 mostly cos I can always add more but if I responded well to even just 120 at levels that were borderline but not hypogonadal I’m just sayin maybe I could get a good run from 250 for a while n that way get some less sides n more mileage, then increase to 300 then to 400 etc… I don’t understand why that would be dumb I understand why you say there would be possible gains not made immediately that could be made on 500 but imo as my first ever proper cycle 250/300 with dbol should be plenty (shit I already gained like 30lbs just from trt doses why would I want to rush into it when I’m in this for the long run?).

Not trying to argue just curious as to why you think ramping up slowly to learn what my body does/responds at each dose is wrong or dumb, isn’t that generally better than just goin cookie cutter 500mg x week? I want to do this for a fkin long time so idk why I’d oversaturate myself early when it’s possible I could do a great first cycle with 300 (I’m not saying that’s definitely the case but based upon how I reacted to 120 n in general how I reacted to most compounds in the past I tend to baloon up real quick so I want to just do as much as possible to avoid sides n if there need to be sides I at least would want to understand each dose response better, which to my knowledge would be known only by doing it nah?)

I’m actually both stating and asking as I’m used to scientific method on other stuff but maybe I’m missing something here so for real anyone let me know if I’m wrong in reasoning this way

 

[gx52a]

The answer to your question is that you don't need to use the "scientific method" because you shouldn't consider your cycle a science experiment. Other people have already figured this out for you.

For health reasons you don't want your cycle to run too long. Therefore you want to make sure what you're doing is actually effective for the whole cycle. I'm saying it's dumb because basically you are wasting part of your cycle.

Just pick an effective dose and stick with it. 400, fine. That's conservative already.

 

[ChevChelios]

Its not like oxy or cocaine at all tho its really really small. For example sometimes when im on dbol ill just think to myself damn I feel pretty good today. But its not like a high or anything like that. For me I just seem to have a lot of good days when im on dbol ha if that makes sense. I havent used antidepressants but I bet its similar to that.

Ahah ofc it ain’t dude I’m not thinking it’s like that (although now you made me think I should get my chemistry on n synth some hybrid anabolic that has some dope ass extra fx, ofc it’s sci-fi rn but hmmm worth thinkin bout as most bbers ik would love that shit) but if it is like you described which is the general testosterone feel I reall fw it, it’s a very background feeling but still fkin awesome, it’s not the main reason I’m choosing dbol (my main reason is the fact it’s great for strength n everyone ik who took it loved it so as my first oral it had to be dbol) but it does feel like a good extra lil thing to have as that plus the test feeling will be real nice for gym n competition purposes (n to those who compete n still think natty comps are clean dw I rarely go to anything that’s tested ahah even MMA I was fighting dudes that were juicing like crazy but I still wasn’t on shit cos idek guess I was too busy doin dumb shit to source stuff)

 

[bigead]

I enjoy dbol pre-workout and if I'm on a fair amount of primo to ad some methyl e2 when I need it.

 

[ChevChelios]

The answer to your question is that you don't need to use the "scientific method" because you shouldn't consider your cycle a science experiment. Other people have already figured this out for you.

For health reasons you don't want your cycle to run too long. Therefore you want to make sure what you're doing is actually effective for the whole cycle. I'm saying it's dumb because basically you are wasting part of your cycle.

Just pick an effective dose and stick with it. 400, fine. That's conservative already.

Ok so blast at 400 then drop down to trt/200 you’re saying? I’m saying I’m not cycling (BnC on trt, no pct) so it’s not a thing I consider a waste of time as I will learn stuff n then readjust from there, yeah maybe scientific method isn’t the right term but we are experimenting with ourselves often so that’s more what I meant.

 

[gx52a]

Ok so blast at 400 then drop down to trt/200 you’re saying? I’m saying I’m not cycling (BnC on trt, no pct) so it’s not a thing I consider a waste of time as I will learn stuff n then readjust from there, yeah maybe scientific method isn’t the right term but we are experimenting with ourselves often so that’s more what I meant.

yeah I'd say that's fine. Mostly just be clear with yourself about what's "blast" and what's "cruise".

I see a lot of guys who get real loose with the definitions and it ends up looking an awful lot like permablasting to me. Just my 2c

 

[ChevChelios]

I enjoy dbol pre-workout and if I'm on a fair amount of primo to ad some methyl e2 when I need it.

Yeah I’m finna grab some primo for the next round as I’m starting to be real interested in all the cool stuff it does especially the AI stuff as that mechanism seems a lot less fked than having to take arimidex/aromasin

 

[ChevChelios]

yeah I'd say that's fine. Mostly just be clear with yourself about what's "blast" and what's "cruise".

I see a lot of guys who get real loose with the definitions and it ends up looking an awful lot like permablasting to me. Just my 2c

Yeah I’m very aware of that as most of my friends are permablasting multiple compounds year round (some cut down to just test but even there they don’t go lower than 250/300 on the cruise ahah tbh I don’t blame em), I’m gonna just do 10-12 weeks or so at 400 n then cruise for the same amount of time then, maybe do 300 the first week or 2 just to tell what I aromatise like cos I respond pretty quickly n like that ik what amount of injections I gotta do n if AI is needed but after I’ve gotten used to that imma stick with 400 as per suggested which seems like a fair compromise for a first cycle.

Oh btw to all y’all who BnC or blast on trt: Have you ever had issues once you go back down to cruise dose or is that something that you notice just a lil bit then get used to?

 

[jJjburton]

Its not like oxy or cocaine at all tho its really really small. For example sometimes when im on dbol ill just think to myself damn I feel pretty good today. But its not like a high or anything like that. For me I just seem to have a lot of good days when im on dbol ha if that makes sense. I havent used antidepressants but I bet its similar to that.

On a side note No antidepressants are horrendous…lol

Taking my orals preworkout, i just love the pump. It really makes you feel the workout is that much better…. As like a gage to what your doing is correct.

 

[Denicnut2427]

I still take dbol, its my go to oral. I always take all my gear preworkout. If im pinning daily ill pin everything and take my orals all about an hour before I train. I never bothered trying to get stable blood with orals idk but it has worked very well for me if i take everything before i train. Honestly man im on trt right now and i threw in 15mg of dbol the thai pink 5 mg pills. I didnt notice much, I noticed slightly better pumps, slightly bigger appetite, and decent strength increase. Id say start with 25mg before you train. Just my opinion but you want those blood levels peaked while youre training.

Me too I absolutely love dianabol I miss the old dianabol naposim they were the best! I still take 3-4 doses per day if my test is low too like 350mg

 

[Juicedhead]

Me too I absolutely love dianabol I miss the old dianabol naposim they were the best! I still take 3-4 doses per day if my test is low too like 350mg

dude I almost got my hands on some naposim back in the early 2000s I put in an order and dude told me he was actually sold out and it was no longer being made. So long to pharma dbol, it no longer exists. I still get the thai pinks or yellows which are third world phamra. They still kick ass. My first run with the ole dbol was the thai yellow 10mg tabs I was taking 6 a day and holy fucking shit that was an amazing experience. The first time running dbol for me was unforgettable.

 

[ChevChelios]

dude I almost got my hands on some naposim back in the early 2000s I put in an order and dude told me he was actually sold out and it was no longer being made. So long to pharma dbol, it no longer exists. I still get the thai pinks or yellows which are third world phamra. They still kick ass. My first run with the ole dbol was the thai yellow 10mg tabs I was taking 6 a day and holy fucking shit that was an amazing experience. The first time running dbol for me was unforgettable.

Yo I think I had em pink dragons back in day but I wasn’t usin anythin AAS related at the time so fk I could have held on to em instead I just flipped em, was tempted to keep em just for pure aesthetics but a homie wanted a fkload so I guess I missed out on that one, hopefully shit that ain’t pharma is still good enough but I have a weird lil thing for good lookin coloured pills (probably from my time livin in Amsterdam ahah) so that’d have been dope

 

[ChevChelios]

On a side note No antidepressants are horrendous…lol

Taking my orals preworkout, i just love the pump. It really makes you feel the workout is that much better…. As like a gage to what your doing is correct.

Yeah idk why people ever would get on em unless they are close to suicidal, I’ve always refused any time anyone thought it would be a good idea to script that for sleep or other shit as everyone ik who took an SSRI or similar ended up even more depressed n fkin dependent physically on em then that shit is even half proven to sometimes make permanent changes to one’s neurochemistry, fk that shit

 

[ChevChelios]

So what’s the consensus on time before workout? I ate a small meal for breakfast at like 630ish n was thinkin of poppin my first one right after my pre workout shake (no preworkout just protein I drink 30min before going to the gym)

 

[BADTOTHEBONETY]

I was dumb with dbol when I was younger, was doing 50mg a day and it just didn’t agree with me, was getting nose bleeds whilst lifting heavy. Assumed it was to do with excess water weight causing higher blood pressure and pressure of lifting

 

[Denicnut2427]

dude I almost got my hands on some naposim back in the early 2000s I put in an order and dude told me he was actually sold out and it was no longer being made. So long to pharma dbol, it no longer exists. I still get the thai pinks or yellows which are third world phamra. They still kick ass. My first run with the ole dbol was the thai yellow 10mg tabs I was taking 6 a day and holy fucking shit that was an amazing experience. The first time running dbol for me was unforgettable.

Yea therapia stopped making them they were the best I try them and Russian and pink Thai I wanted to try jelfa dbol never did…I’m pretty sure you can still get akhirin Russian Dianabol 5mg and the blue heart 10mg ones they are pharma …yea I know talk about it I fell in love with them too! 200mg of deca Norma Hellas and we titrate up dbol from 10-20mg per day and holy fuck begin big and strong

 

[Juicedhead]

Yea therapia stopped making them they were the best I try them and Russian and pink Thai I wanted to try jelfa dbol never did…I’m pretty sure you can still get akhirin Russian Dianabol 5mg and the blue heart 10mg ones they are pharma …yea I know talk about it I fell in love with them too! 200mg of deca Norma Hellas and we titrate up dbol from 10-20mg per day and holy fuck begin big and strong

dude the blue hearts are bad as fuck now. Someone had some tested here by jano and it came back at like 5mg a pill and i think it had methyltestosterone in it too. Not positive on the results but it was enough for me to write blue heart dbol off for good. They used to be made by body research and now they are made by march. Since the switch they arent good anymore.

 

[Juicedhead]

Blue hearts/ British dispensary anabol blind testing

Anabols are sample 1 and blue hearts are sample 2. Actually quite disappointed with the blue hearts, they are supposed to be 10mgs. Anabols are very close to 5mg label claim. These were all bought from 24hreup, probably mid summer last year @24hreup

thinksteroids.com

 

[Avarice911]

Yeah I’m definitely gonna be doin more shakes than dbols this time round but that’s a good n easy way of planning em out, will use this in the future as I actually drink 3 shakes a day added on to all the meals so it would be great timing for the dbol too (n it falls on breakfast lunch n dinner so good spacing out too). Anyone ever get issues with sleep by dosing it too late or is it not that way? Ain’t ever did no oral apart from a short run with epistane back in the day but that’s like the polar opposite of dbol (would love to find me some though I gotta look for it imo it’s gone though, it was a good one imo)

Epistane was my first too back in the day. It’s still available today fyi

 

[ChevChelios]

Epistane was my first too back in the day. It’s still available today fyi

Yo for real? Where? The only place I noticed it was the QSC raws but I’m not a HB guy just yet (I want to but gotta sort some stuff out first) n if I order from them that I gotta be at least grabbing some other stuff too (cos that’s how I am n if I do that I will grab test at least on top) but I’m curious if you know of another place that carries it as I loved that stuff, shit was even mildly AI ish n I didn’t give it enough of a chance as I was doing dumb shit back in the day so ended up giving most of my bottle to a homie of mine. Lmk tho cos I’d definitely fw that ahah