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I know this has been on several boards but I haven't been able to find a definitive answer to my problem so I'm hoping someone with deeper knowledge on here can offer a suggestion.

Just a starting note, I have brewed several compounds all with great success, so the method of production isn't one that is a mystery in any way.

Several months ago I received some test e powder from a source I used in the past and made 200 ml of test enanthate at 250mg/ml. All shots were painless and the results were great.

Recently I brewed some of what was left over. immediately I noticed the powder was more lumpy and waxy which I don't consider an issue. I brewed like normal, 10% BB, 1% BA, and gso. The result was incredibly painfull gear that resulted in redness and lumps in the injection site area. the pain in incredible and lasts days before going away.

I have made several other attempts with different ratios of BB and different oil, adding ethyle oleate, new ingredients, etc....but the gear always hurts like hell.

After several days a faint milky substance can be seen floating in the vials. All my gear is double filtered through a glass frit. cleanliness is without question.

So I'm wondering what the hell happened to cause once painless powder to hurt like hell?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
Milky substance? I don't know but stop pinning if you haven't already.

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It could be crashing. That's what it sounds like. Can you post pics?

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It could be crashing. That's what it sounds like. Can you post pics?

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This has been my opinion when dealing with the supplier. No matter how much BB I use, (went as high as 20%) or using 50% mix of ethyle oleate with the carrier oil the stuff seems to be crashing.

Oddly enough, when using cotton seed oil I can see a slight cloudiness or particulates throughout the solution when gently tilting the bottle left and right. I have to holding the bottle up to a certain light source to see this. Just holding it up in a well lit roomy you wouldn't see anything strange.

In the gso mix there seems to be a cloudy fog that sits on the bottom of the vials and then swirls when I tip the bottle 180 degrees.

It's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen.

I always start the process of home brewing with slowly melting the powder to liquid and constantly stirring, then adding BB and stirring for several minutes, BA and stirring and then the heated carrier oil, with or without ethyle oleate and again stirring.

In one batch I even added a small amount of guicacol and it starts off clear every time but after filtering and letting the mix sit in the vials for several hours the cloudy settling fog forms on the bottom of the vials in gso or as I mentioned throughout the solution in cotton sed oil and ethyle oleate.

I even re heated up one batch of vials to 215 degrees Fahrenheit and it didn't do anything to help with the issue I'm having.

Test enanthate is highly soluable and it shouldn't be doing this with 20% BB, ethyle oleate or guicacol. I shouldn't be even be thinking of going as far as guicacol in test e home brew but I am desperate to try anything. Already went through a ton of powder trying different things.

Yes I have pics of the entire brewing process and the results. I will upload them soon. Thanks.
 
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This problem is still going on years later with test-E powders. The minute cellulitis appears after an injection, count your blessings and stop! From what I remember, the Chinese test-e powders were high in some kind of acid that fucks you up!


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digler said:
This problem is still going on years later with test-E powders. The minute cellulitis appears after an injection, count your blessings and stop! From what I remember, the Chinese test-e powders were high in some kind of acid that fucks you up!


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Don't believe this is cellulitis but signs of irritation. there is no skin tightening, no access, no hot area, etc....it's a hard lump where the oil was injected. Some shots can cause different levels of redness but sometimes there is none.

Pain can last a few days or up to 6 days. It always goes away. Only my very first shot resulted in an infection but nothing since then. Maybe I just don't want to believe it is cellulitis? certainly hope not.


the thing I'm trying to understand is this. how was it that the first 50 grams was painless and then after a period of about 4 months or so the same power is causing these issues? What is happening to the powder that caused this to occur? and why only test e, all the other powder I get from he same supplier is great.

I know there are some really intelligent chemists on this board. Have they figures it out?

I also looked ditto the carbolic acid, phenol issue some have mentioned but it seems a very inconclusive answer. No one could say with 100% certainty that is what is causing he issue.
 
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forgot to add that I mentioned in my post that I did heat the oil to a point where there should not be any bacteria present to cause cellulitis in some batches.

also don't think bacteria can grow in the test e powder. or could it? regardless, as mentioned the heat should solve that issue.

I have been pinning for over 5 years and only ever had one infection. it was bound to happen eventually after thousands of shots.
 
the foggy swirl in gso mix, the cotton seed oil particles do not show in photos.

some swirling can be seen rising along bottom of vials as well but predominantly seen in red circle

10 ml vial with cloudy substance in oil.jpg
 
Your better off getting a hot plate I never put my gear anywhere near water
big risk doing it with a water bath to heat up gear
I made some tren base and had a little wet ruined the 100 ml
to the trash with it.
 
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Your better off getting a hot plate I never put my gear anywhere near water
big risk doing it with a water bath to heat up gear
I made some tren base and had a little wet ruined the 100 ml
to the trash with it.
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I only made 100mls this way. I make 100 mls at a time on different days. the other 400MLS were made directly on the stove top on low heat. Just wanted to try somethiing different to see if pain would go away. No chance of water vapor entering the mix on stove top. All vials have same swirl no matter if water was used in the process or not.

couldn't be heat damage. I made at least 1000mls of test e this way without issue. test e has low melting point but can be heated beyond this point substantially before degrading according to Mercks own books.

It also wouldn't explain the insane pain.
 
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