PayPal/credit card payments are safe

So funny you would say that, and not know who I even am chase.

Not many have the balls to go against the flow...

Fuck the flow...Im old school. Survival of the fittest. We cant cradle every fool that lacks any common sense. Ive learned alot of lessons the hard way, and those are the ones that stick.
 
Rocky: Cause I'm a fighter! That's how I'm made, Adrian. That's what you married. We can't change what we are.
Adrian: [Softly] Yes you can.
Rocky: We can't change anything, Adrian. All we can do is just go with what we are.
Adrian: You can't go with what you are you've read the papers, it's suicide! You've seen him you know how strong he is! YOU CAN'T WIN!

BUT Rocky did win, my friends, and we
all know what, that means...

It means, that it was fake as shit.
That fuckin Russian was punching
that plate at 2,100lbs..
Rocky would have been killed, that's
all there is, to it... Sorry guys, he would have
busted his head wide open.. AND made
him piss his pants..

I'm out
 
If you use your own cc or paypal for illegal purposes, "YOU ARE AN IDIOT" in the first place, this is BASIC commen sense...And if you do , YOU, AND ONLY YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE....Stop blaming others for your damn mistakes, and or retardedness!!!!

I will now step off my soapbox...
 
Ok, I have read all about common sense and how stupid people are who don't have it. Granted. Now, can I ask a couple stupid questions?

1. SF, is the Green Dot payment method mentioned above by MH an option?
2. Anyone, its been awhile for me--can we still buy anonymous prepaid cards OTC?
3. Can anyone hip us simple folk to the anonymous, secure payment methods we are missing out on?

Thanks
 
Ok, I have read all about common sense and how stupid people are who don't have it. Granted. Now, can I ask a couple stupid questions?

1. SF, is the Green Dot payment method mentioned above by MH an option?
2. Anyone, its been awhile for me--can we still buy anonymous prepaid cards OTC?
3. Can anyone hip us simple folk to the anonymous, secure payment methods we are missing out on?

Thanks

There's no such thing as an anonymous secure payment method.

Except maybe bitcoin.

It is something being learned about.

The greendot moneypak option is not currently available, but is also something we would like to add. It won't happen overnight.

The most secure, and anonymous form of payment I am currently aware of, is WU/MG. But even these are not completely safe. No matter what there will be risk.

But no one should be using PP/CC unless they have nothing to fear from any form of LE.
 

Absolutely agree .

I guess I made my post about CIM ( cash in the mail ) in the wrong SF thread ... but I think that is the way to go ; buy the overnight / priority envelope and postage at the post office for about $20. and that is it - no info is asked for or saved , no receiver , no test questions, no waiving ID , etc etc etc Mail the cash and get your gear ...

I used CIM twice with the same source last spring and was was better than going with WU and seeing the guy looking at all my past transactions on his computer screen
 
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If I were a source, I wouldn't except CIM,
from my customers, unless they already
knew who I was and where I was..

From what I hear, MoneyPak is safe, for the
customer but not so much, for the source..

So, I wouldn't except that payment, from you
nimrods, either :p

WU is safest, for the source, from what I see,
and this is the payment option my customers would
have to take.

If I were a source, I would care more about my
own safely, than the safety, of my customers..

Who votes, for me sourcing?
 
I still don't understand what the problem is...

If ya don't like Paypal/CC payments -- don't use them. They don't force you to use that method.

Am I wrong in saying a few of these guys on this forum just "have it out" for SF?? Because that's what it seems like to me.

Seriously, I'm just curious... if it's a genuine "looking out for the forum community" then I understand; but, this has gone a little beyond that. Maybe I'm just crazy and reading too much into stuff here.
 
It takes a good man to be honest and apologize like you have.
That was a very good thing to see as you normally don’t see that any more
I believe your company will be around for a long time
:D
 
I still don't understand what the problem is...

If ya don't like Paypal/CC payments -- don't use them. They don't force you to use that method.

Am I wrong in saying a few of these guys on this forum just "have it out" for SF?? Because that's what it seems like to me.

Seriously, I'm just curious... if it's a genuine "looking out for the forum community" then I understand; but, this has gone a little beyond that. Maybe I'm just crazy and reading too much into stuff here.

I agree with you PTS. I think some people hear just love the sound of their own voice. Been here 6 months and have 3000 posts...ya theyre doing a little masturbation.
 
The world doesn't revolve around the USA. Laws in the USA are not universal.

You're violating the Bank Secrecy Act in the United States by using fraudulent banking information to open your paypal account. You're using a bank in the United States (paypal) to accept payments in exchange for AAS sold in the US. US law is relevant because you are breaking several US laws before even effecting a single transaction.

I am told that in Europe you can still buy prepaid CCs over the counter...with no SSN or the equivalent...is this false?

If that is true, then PP would be the only problem yes? And only a problem for those customers who are located in a country where AAS are illegal.

Or am I missing something obvious again?

He maintains that fully 30% of our sales come from over-seas, where AAS laws are different, which he says nullify's risks of paypal. As well as, laws governing prepaid credit cards being registered to a proven identity. (I have no idea, if this is true or not. never been to europe)

His assertion has been, and remains; WU/MG also have criminal investigation units, who will flag any receiver who receives large amounts of transactions/money.

It's one step forward and two steps backwards with you guys. You and your boss do not understand the difference between effecting payment online and offline.

Unless I missed something this seem to be alot to do about nothing.

On a side note, I have a buddy who sells bud and he tells me he uses Square and alot of people pay with their debit/CC cards...so to each their own I guess.

I find it exceptionally difficult to take seriously the opinion of a person who thinks it's a good idea to use their smart phone to effect payment for illicit substances.
 
I find it exceptionally difficult to take seriously the opinion of a person who thinks it's a good idea to use their smart phone to effect payment for illicit substances.

Wow, read into things that arent there often?:rolleyes: Where did I say (I) was using my CC to make an illegal purchase? Improved reading comprehension will clearly show I indicated, "I had a buddy" and "he claims people pay with their CC's".

But on a side note, dont take me seriously, Im rarely serious and I find it far more entertaining to watch people do stupid things while I lean back and laugh at them...yes my friend, Im a DICK!
 
you sure it's not from pushups, missionary position? [:o)]

I don't do pushups, that shit is weak..
I do 4" from lockout static bench pres... holds :cool: ..

I really think I am, on to something..
It's funny yea, but I'm serious.
My muscles are getting solid.. I want back on gear
 
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