Pct after 15 years on

[DrSauce]

Hi guys… wondering about anyone that’s successful come off TRT and cycles after many many years on. What it felt like, what the protocol was and the results. I am 40 and have been on since 25 and I just don’t feel that great anymore. My sex drive is weak. I’m coming down from a cycle and was going to goto 100mg test E a week in 2 doses to see how I feel but I want that sex drive that makes you feel alive and good. I was listening to someone somewhere saying trt always loosing its shine eventually.

anyone with first hand experiences please share. I’d greatly appreciate it

 

[Big_paul]

guys… wondering about anyone that’s successful come off TRT and cycles after many many years on. What it felt like, what the protocol was and the results.

Pure fucking hell. I will be the first to admit I abused the hell out of ped's for 30yrs and even with Dr Scally's pct I couldn't get even close to normal test levels.

Say hello trt for the rest of your life.

 

[grey]

wondering about anyone that’s successful come off TRT and cycles after many many years on.

There were studies done for guys who were going to come off TRT after 3-5 years and only SOME of those were able to restart at all.

They tell you TRT is a lifetime commitment for a reason.

Can't leave organelles unused for a decade and expect them to resume working.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Hi guys… wondering about anyone that’s successful come off TRT and cycles after many many years on. What it felt like, what the protocol was and the results. I am 40 and have been on since 25 and I just don’t feel that great anymore. My sex drive is weak. I’m coming down from a cycle and was going to goto 100mg test E a week in 2 doses to see how I feel but I want that sex drive that makes you feel alive and good. I was listening to someone somewhere saying trt always loosing its shine eventually.

anyone with first hand experiences please share. I’d greatly appreciate it

Your recovery from this amount of time on is not only not guaranteed but unlikely. That being said, crazy shit happens.

If you’re going to attempt it, you should be prepared for a long, probably frustrating, likely lackluster slog with the distinct possibility of it being a waste of time with little to no recovery of your hormonal function. Most common PCT cycles you’ll see won’t cut it.

 

[Roco Bama]

Hi guys… wondering about anyone that’s successful come off TRT and cycles after many many years on. What it felt like, what the protocol was and the results. I am 40 and have been on since 25 and I just don’t feel that great anymore. My sex drive is weak. I’m coming down from a cycle and was going to goto 100mg test E a week in 2 doses to see how I feel but I want that sex drive that makes you feel alive and good. I was listening to someone somewhere saying trt always loosing its shine eventually.

anyone with first hand experiences please share. I’d greatly appreciate it

Testosterone alone isn't enough for hrt. you can start supplementing your TRT with hcg, dhea, and pregnenolone as they also play a role in well being and sex drive.

 

[DrSauce]

Testosterone alone isn't enough for hrt. you can start supplementing your TRT with hcg, dhea, and pregnenolone as they also play a role in well being and sex drive.

thanks everyone. I won’t jump off. I’m just looking to get a good healthy libido again. I’ve been chasing it on cycles for the last few years changing substances and the amount of my test all over the place never seeming to find a sustained place.

I started 100mg pregnenolone and 25mg dhea recently. Haven’t noticed anything yet but thinking I’ll drop to 40mg test e 2x a week to get to normal levels and see how I feel. Any feedback in that arena would be appreciated

 

[Roco Bama]

thanks everyone. I won’t jump off. I’m just looking to get a good healthy libido again. I’ve been chasing it on cycles for the last few years changing substances and the amount of my test all over the place never seeming to find a sustained place.

I started 100mg pregnenolone and 25mg dhea recently. Haven’t noticed anything yet but thinking I’ll drop to 40mg test e 2x a week to get to normal levels and see how I feel. Any feedback in that arena would be appreciated

You also need to include daily shots of hcg. It's well known that some people experience decrease sex drive when on TRT unless they also take hcg or synthetic LH. I'll recommend to start pinning 100mcg HCG daily and see how it goes. Taking hcg daily instead of the recommended 2x/week won't give you e2 problems associated with hcg.

 

[DrSauce]

You also need to include daily shots of hcg. It's well known that some people experience decrease sex drive when on TRT unless they also take hcg or synthetic LH. I'll recommend to start pinning 100mcg HCG daily and see how it goes. Taking hcg daily instead of the recommended 2x/week won't give you e2 problems associated with hcg.

That's what I was thinking. I had heard 250 to 500iu every other day was what was needed. I don't want E2 issues. Have you tried this yourself? I think I will start today. Do you know how long till you start noticing it working?

 

[Roco Bama]

That's what I was thinking. I had heard 250 to 500iu every other day was what was needed. I don't want E2 issues. Have you tried this yourself? I think I will start today. Do you know how long till you start noticing it working?

I don't remember how long it took me to notice results but hcg did improve my wack sex drive. Pull bloods after 2 week to ensure your E2 and free test levels are in range.

 

[DrSauce]

I don't remember how long it took me to notice results but hcg did improve my wack sex drive. Pull bloods after 2 week to ensure your E2 levels are in range.

got it will do. I’m going to do 100iu daily (is that what you’re doing? ) with 40mg test E every 3rd day. I have a stack of blood tests waiting

 

[Roco Bama]

got it will do. I’m going to do 100iu daily (is that what you’re doing? ) with 40mg test E every 3rd day. I have a stack of blood tests waiting

I wasn't on test when I was taking HCG so I was taking 500iu daily along with dhea and pregnenolone. Maybe you should start off with 200iu daily then check your free test and E2 levels.

 

[vladamirnotinPutin]

Pure fucking hell. I will be the first to admit I abused the hell out of ped's for 30yrs and even with Dr Scally's pct I couldn't get even close to normal test levels.

Say hello trt for the rest of your life.

Does sound like pure fucking hell. Have you tried a daily dose of cialis with trt. Usually somewhere between 5-10mg a day is good for pre workout. Helps with prostrate Blood pressure well being and sex life.

 

[GuerillaPete]

Hcg keep my sex drive great sometimes i take pregnenolone and dhea also like 3x week when i dont forget.

 

[DrSauce]

I wasn't on test when I was taking HCG so I was taking 500iu daily along with dhea and pregnenolone. Maybe you should start off with 200iu daily then check your free test and E2 levels.

I did 200iu today and bam gyno flare. Going to pop .75 arimidex . I guess I’m still converting a lot of e2?

 

[DrSauce]

Does sound like pure fucking hell. Have you tried a daily dose of cialis with trt. Usually somewhere between 5-10mg a day is good for pre workout. Helps with prostrate Blood pressure well being and sex life.

Yeah more like 15mg a day and when I’m off I can’t even notice that. Have tried 30mg even. When the hormones aren’t right it doesn’t do a lot

 

[vladamirnotinPutin]

Yeah more like 15mg a day and when I’m off I can’t even notice that. Have tried 30mg even. When the hormones aren’t right it doesn’t do a lot

Damn. Def get full blood test if you haven’t already.

 

[DrSauce]

Damn. Def get full blood test if you haven’t already.

I did a full blood test last week. Test off the charts, free was 455 (top of scale 155) E2 was 41, top of scale 29. Had mild gyno issues and was taking adex already. I guess having such high test just isnt working for me?

 

[Hughinn]

Pure fucking hell. I will be the first to admit I abused the hell out of ped's for 30yrs and even with Dr Scally's pct I couldn't get even close to normal test levels.

Say hello trt for the rest of your life.

This ^

Big Paul ain't lying. I'm 44 and used for 12 Years before trying to come off. I used to cycle off and on, but at 44 with grown kids and no reason to have anymore. It's just not worth it.

You'll age fast, atrophy, feel weak and tired with no libido.

You may endure it long enough to get to some tolerable state. But you'll never be the same.

But yeah. The damage is likely done.

 

[DrSauce]

This ^

Big Paul ain't lying. I'm 44 and used for 12 Years before trying to come off. I used to cycle off and on, but at 44 with grown kids and no reason to have anymore. It's just not worth it.

You'll age fast, atrophy, feel weak and tired with no libido.

You may endure it long enough to get to some tolerable state. But you'll never be the same.

But yeah. The damage is likely done.

no desire for that at all. Just looking to find the right dose now that will let me have a good libido and mental state. I have all the muscle I want and need at my age. The libido and mental state is elusive for me right now. Just started the hcg today and bam gyno. ugh.

 

[Hughinn]

thanks everyone. I won’t jump off. I’m just looking to get a good healthy libido again. I’ve been chasing it on cycles for the last few years changing substances and the amount of my test all over the place never seeming to find a sustained place.

I started 100mg pregnenolone and 25mg dhea recently. Haven’t noticed anything yet but thinking I’ll drop to 40mg test e 2x a week to get to normal levels and see how I feel. Any feedback in that arena would be appreciated

You might try using test propionate.

For some reason it metabolizes different for me. I can use less and feel better.

160 to 200 mg a week and an hcg shot once in awhile works for me. Eod or ed shots and boom.

I go to cyponate once every two weeks, it's entirely different. Its like you said.

Ed shots suck. But with an insulin pin anywhere in lean mass .2 to .3 cc pip is non existent and scar tissue a wash.