Pct after 15 years on

[DrSauce]

You might try using test propionate.

For some reason it metabolizes different for me. I can use less and feel better.

160 to 200 mg a week and an hcg shot once in awhile works for me.

I go to cyponate once every two weeks, it's entirely different.

Thanks for responding. I just switched to prop 50mg eod coming off 175mg of sust EOD. And bam instant gyno flares with 2x the arimidex of being on the sust. I dont get it. I seem to be a weird animal. I guess I just gotta get these levels down lower is all I can figure? I might go do another blood test today to get another data point.

 

[Hughinn]

Thanks for responding. I just switched to prop 50mg eod coming off 175mg of sust EOD. And bam instant gyno flares with 2x the arimidex of being on the sust. I dont get it. I seem to be a weird animal. I guess I just gotta get these levels down lower is all I can figure? I might go do another blood test today to get another data point.

You sure the gyno wasn't the hcg?

But you're right everyone is different.

I keep aromisin on hand and take one a week or so.

 

[DrSauce]

You sure the gyno wasn't the hcg?

But you're right everyone is different.

I keep aromisin on hand and take one a week or so.

I got the gyno before taking the hcg, just on prop. My libido wasnt good on the sust either. I've had a wonkly libido for ages now. Tried chasing it with big doses and masterone etc. But that didnt seem to work. Aromasin seems to fully crash my e2 when I use it. I did 12.5mg a while back and was limp as hell and full of anxiety for 3 days.

 

[pigeonhed]

Under no circumstances do I suggest using my healthcare to determine your path. With that said I am currently 52. At age 50 I came off PEDs for the first time since I was 22. About 28 years of continuous PED use.

It was not fun, nothing is that is worth anything in life. I now cycle on and off, my doctor is involved and I never do anything that is not medically known, perhaps not approved all the time. This is a work in progress and I am trying my best to deal with all the changes in my body and life.

At the beginning of this I was 305 lbs now I am 220. I am 6'1" tall. I have lost a significant amount of size, I am also entering a different phase of my life and I could no longer carry all the extra weight/muscle. My injuries and my families desire to see me live a bit longer changed my personal goals.

For me, it was not important what path I decided to follow. It was important I included my wife, my children and the doctor in my decisions and also took other peoples feelings into consideration. For 28 years my wife and children supported me while I got to achieve many goals.

 

[malfeasance]

Under no circumstances do I suggest using my healthcare to determine your path. With that said I am currently 52. At age 50 I came off PEDs for the first time since I was 22. About 28 years of continuous PED use.

It was not fun, nothing is that is worth anything in life. I now cycle on and off, my doctor is involved and I never do anything that is not medically known, perhaps not approved all the time. This is a work in progress and I am trying my best to deal with all the changes in my body and life.

At the beginning of this I was 305 lbs now I am 220. I am 6'1" tall. I have lost a significant amount of size, I am also entering a different phase of my life and I could no longer carry all the extra weight/muscle. My injuries and my families desire to see me live a bit longer changed my personal goals.

For me, it was not important what path I decided to follow. It was important I included my wife, my children and the doctor in my decisions and also took other peoples feelings into consideration. For 28 years my wife and children supported me while I got to achieve many goals.

Is coming all the way off at 52 (after 28 years of continuous use) healthy?

Why not continue at 75-100 mg a week?

 

[pigeonhed]

Is coming all the way off at 52 (after 28 years of continuous use) healthy?

Why not continue at 75-100 mg a week?

My doctor had a plan and I have followed it. I think in my case perhaps it has also been about trust. I had a goal and I am achieving it and right now it will include some time off. Now I feel really good most all the time. NOT THE SAME AS BEFORE. But pretty good. Also my cardio is insane and I look good. I get a lot of positive reenforcement from the community around me. Obviously everyone is noticing the changes.

I made a choice to trust someone to care for me. It is working out and I am happy. Not as big but very happy.

 

[ManK]

i know many guys that came off and restart after many years.
Me too (50 y. old) restarted after 3 and after 2 years (2 time).
The difference between restart axis after a very long period and after a simple cycle is the amount of TIME necessary to allow the restart.

 

[ManK]

Is coming all the way off at 52 (after 28 years of continuous use) healthy?

Why not continue at 75-100 mg a week?

maybe becausa, after many years of abuse, and, over 50 y old, a lot of men have hct problems also with a simple trt.
And donate blood for life isn't thebest health solution (also if gym people want absolutely believe it)..

 

[grey]

i know many guys that came off and restart after many years.
Me too (50 y. old) restarted after 3 and after 2 years (2 time).

What on earth makes you think this is in ANY way comparable to the OP?

 

[ManK]

What on earth makes you think this is in ANY way comparable to the OP?

OP?

 

[pigeonhed]

OP?

Original Poster.

 

[Demondosage]

Simple. You want a normal life? you don't come off test...period.

And I'm so fucking sick of hearing about this worthless Dr. Scally super PCT protocol, you are trying to get blood from a stone with that nonsense!

 

[ManK]

Simple. You want a normal life? you don't come off test...period.

And I'm so fucking sick of hearing about this worthless Dr. Scally super PCT protocol, you are trying to get blood from a stone with that nonsense!

probably your idea of normal life is not so normal...