PCT after 2 year Blast cruise

[b6798045]

Week 2:
- BW: 74.5 kg.
- BF: 9 %.
- Increased protein. Weekly avg. kcal is 3150.
- Off day 2780 kcal (270 g protein, 250 g carbs, 80 g fat).
- Training day 3320 kcal (235 g protein, 485 g carbs, 50 g fat).
- Strenght (Incline dumbell press): 25 kg 3 sets 12 reps, went from 3 sec negative to 1 sec negative (to decrease intensity), 9 RPE.
- Visual changes: bit less veiny, but overall close to as Week 0.
- Mood: feeling normal (8/10).
- Libido: same as Week 0.

 

[b6798045]

Week 3:
- BW: 74.5 kg.
- BF: ca. 9 %.
- Off day: same as Week 2
- Training day: same as Week 2
- Strenght (Incline dumbell press): same as Week 2.
- Visual changes: 50% less veiny, didn't lose any fullness and cuts.
- Mood: quite good (8.5/10).
- Libido: less horny, but still doing the Lord's work.

 

[b6798045]

Week 4:
- BW: 74.8 kg.
- BF: ca. 10 %.
- Off day: same as Week 2
- Training day: same as Week 2
- Strenght (Incline dumbell press): same as Week 2.
- Visual changes: 80% less veiny, 20% less cuts, didn't lose any fullness.
- Mood: (7/10).
- Libido: even less horny, but still have morning wood.

Will wait another 2 weeks before blood work, then PCT.

 

[EmberWave]

Which brand for HCG?

 

[b6798045]

Which brand for HCG?

Driada (2000 IU/vial).

 

[b6798045]

Week 5:
- BW: 74.6 kg.
- BF: ca. 10 %.
- Off day macros: same as Week 2
- Training day macros: same as Week 2
- Strenght (Incline dumbell press): same as Week 2.
- Visual changes: 80% less veiny, 30% less cuts, lost 10% fullness.
- Mood: (7/10), getting more aggressive (probably due to low T and E levels)
- Libido: not horny, still have morning wood.

1 week before blood work, then PCT.

 

[b6798045]

Week 6:
- BW: 74.8 kg.
- BF: ca. 11 %.
- Off day macros: same as Week 2.
- Training day macros: same as Week 2.
- Strenght (Incline dumbell press): same sets/reps, increased from 22.5 kg to 27.5 kg.
- Visual changes: 80% less veiny, 50% less cuts, lost 10% fullness.
- Mood: (8/10).
- Libido: not horny, still have morning wood.

Gave blood, will have to wait for results before PCT. Probably will get in 1-2 weeks time.

 

[Jin23]

Week 6:
- BW: 74.8 kg.
- BF: ca. 11 %.
- Off day macros: same as Week 2.
- Training day macros: same as Week 2.
- Strenght (Incline dumbell press): same sets/reps, increased from 22.5 kg to 27.5 kg.
- Visual changes: 80% less veiny, 50% less cuts, lost 10% fullness.
- Mood: (8/10).
- Libido: not horny, still have morning wood.

Gave blood, will have to wait for results before PCT. Probably will get in 1-2 weeks time.

Remind us, what is your current protocol/plan?

 

[b6798045]

Remind us, what is your current protocol/plan?

Will either do Vigorous Steve's PCT or maybe even cold turkey (based on my current mood and strength and libido).

PCT protocol:
- 2000 IU HCG E3D for 3 weeks.
- wait 4 days then Clomid 25mg AM&PM and Nolva 10 mg AM&PM for 6-8 weeks.

 

[b6798045]

Guess I'm recovered?
Have to wait for Test and SHBG, blood was send to another LAB.
Albumin 44 g/L.

 

[Jin23]

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Guess I'm recovered?

At an LH of 1.6 you are certainly not recovered. Gonadal function is also a big question mark.

HCG for only 3 weeks probably isn't enough. I'm surprised that your LH isn't shut down with such a high dose of HCG and with being ON for soo long; It might be fake, underdosed, we'll see where your TT levels are. However, seeing how you're feeling fine, your levels might be in the normal/high ranges ...

Do not use clomid. Use just tamox, or get a hold on some enclomiphene.

 

[b6798045]

At an LH of 1.6 you are certainly not recovered. Gonadal function is also a big question mark.

HCG for only 3 weeks probably isn't enough. I'm surprised that your LH isn't shut down with such a high dose of HCG and with being ON for soo long; It might be fake, underdosed, we'll see where your TT levels are. However, seeing how you're feeling fine, your levels might be in the normal/high ranges ...

Do not use clomid. Use just tamox, or get a hold on some enclomiphene.

HCG was strange, when I took it 2500 IU I had such severe headaches.
AAS were legit, have blood tests also for that. For example, 175 mg/week of only Test E gave me 1000 ng/dL. As a natural I had 433 ng/dL.

 

[malfeasance]

You are 24?

Getting completely off is a good thing. Do not do lifelong TRT.

At some point you have to stop screwing around and taking this that and the other thing that affect your body's hormone production. You have to get completely off everything and let your body recover. It takes time.

Folks on this web site obsess over everything and PCT and perfect it, and run another one and . . .

Just stop at some point. Have a beer. Go on a hike. Enjoy time with friends and family.

Retest in three or four months.

 

[Jin23]

You are 24?

Getting completely off is a good thing. Do not do lifelong TRT.

At some point you have to stop screwing around and taking this that and the other thing that affect your body's hormone production. You have to get completely off everything and let your body recover. It takes time.

Folks on this web site obsess over everything and PCT and perfect it, and run another one and . . .

Just stop at some point. Have a beer. Go on a hike. Enjoy time with friends and family.

Retest in three or four months.

What exactly are you saying? He is trying to recover to the best of his abilities and you are saying to just go cold turkey and see what happens??

 

[malfeasance]

What exactly are you saying? He is trying to recover to the best of his abilities and you are saying to just go cold turkey and see what happens??

At some point, yes.

The permanent this PCT, blood test, another PCT, blood test, oh, let's try this other PCT and test again . . . that train has to stop at some point and let the body recover.

He's 24.

There is no reason his body will not recover 100%.

It does not happen within a couple weeks of your most recent mega-PCT that you saw on the internet.

Whatever your levels are on some drug or another is not your recovered level.