Pct for short ester test and nandrolone

[SteroidsBro]

How soon after I stop an 8 week test propionate and npp cycle do I start pct? I haven't been able to find a definite answer, is it the next day, 3 days later, or a week? Thanks

 

[mands]

This is a hard one really because of the NPP. Even being a short ester of nandrolone there are metabolites left around for long periods of time. The controversy is that these metabolites can hinder your recovery.

If it was just test prop I would start my pct around 5-7 days after last pin.

I really can't give you solid advice on the NPP except stop it a couple weeks before you stop the Test prop.

mands

 

[master.on]

How soon after I stop an 8 week test propionate and npp cycle do I start pct? I haven't been able to find a definite answer, is it the next day, 3 days later, or a week? Thanks

IMO you should always use HCG during cycle to make recovery easier.
For a long enough cycle (8 weeks is enough) other than long esters slowly washing off, it wouldn't matter if you used long or short esters.

I prefer to continue injecting HCG 2-3 (sometimes 4) weeks after last pin.
Watch your estro, add 1/2 Letro tab A WEEK if needed, often you'll need little or no Nolva for pct.

 

[mands]

IMO you should always use HCG during cycle to make recovery easier.
For a long enough cycle (8 weeks is enough) other than long esters slowly washing off, it wouldn't matter if you used long or short esters.

I prefer to continue injecting HCG 2-3 (sometimes 4) weeks after last pin.
Watch your estro, add 1/2 Letro tab A WEEK if needed, often you'll need little or no Nolva for pct.

@master.on you know I don't bust your balls too much but what in the F did you just recommend him.

Starting PCT 3-4 weeks after his last pin of Test prop?

Using Letro during PCT or to control E2 while on HCG?

Not using Nolva during PCT?

Just stop right now. I feel like @EcpertRealistic just took over your account.

mands

 

[SteroidsBro]

Lol thanks mands, master.on is coocoo.

 

[EcpertRealistic]

Just stop right now. I feel like @EcpertRealistic just took over your account

Saw your picture on the other forum and you look NOTHING like your profile pic.
Keep hiding behind a fake picture. Your advice SUCK just like your REAL physique

 

[mands]

Saw your picture on the other forum and you look NOTHING like your profile pic.
Keep hiding behind a fake picture. Your advice SUCK just like your REAL physique

@Wunderpus @gr8whitetrukker thought you would like this one.

mands

 

[master.on]

@master.on you know I don't bust your balls too much but what in the F did you just recommend him.

Starting PCT 3-4 weeks after his last pin of Test prop?

Using Letro during PCT or to control E2 while on HCG?

Not using Nolva during PCT?

Just stop right now. I feel like @EcpertRealistic just took over your account.

mands

Did you even read/understand my post?
I advised him to
1 use HCG during the whole cycle
2 and keep on injecting hcg 2-3 weeks after last pin
3 Get Test/Estro bloodwork
4 Use some tiny dose Letro if Estro were high
5 Start Nolva 2-3 weeks after pinning (he'd be on hCG during these 2-3 weeks)

 

[mands]

Did you even read/understand my post?
I advised him to
1 use HCG during the whole cycle
2 and keep on injecting hcg 2-3 weeks after last pin
3 Get Test/Estro bloodwork
4 Use some tiny dose Letro if Estro were high
5 Start Nolva 2-3 weeks after pinning (he'd be on hCG during these 2-3 weeks)

I rest my case. That’s not what your OP states. Still bad advise and they way you lay out your recommendations are confusing at best.

mands

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Saw your picture on the other forum and you look NOTHING like your profile pic.
Keep hiding behind a fake picture. Your advice SUCK just like your REAL physique

Lol, fake?
100% not fake. You are a stupid cunt. Good day sir

 

[Wunderpus]

Saw your picture on the other forum and you look NOTHING like your profile pic.
Keep hiding behind a fake picture. Your advice SUCK just like your REAL physique

lol I have seen him personally, that's 100% you fucking retard

 

[SteroidsBro]

Did you even read/understand my post?
I advised him to
1 use HCG during the whole cycle
2 and keep on injecting hcg 2-3 weeks after last pin
3 Get Test/Estro bloodwork
4 Use some tiny dose Letro if Estro were high
5 Start Nolva 2-3 weeks after pinning (he'd be on hCG during these 2-3 weeks)

So I should wait 2 weeks to start pct after using short esters? I'm gonna wait a week, so that I'm not completely fucked for a week. And we're not supposed to run hcg during pct since it's suppressive from what I understand.

 

[mands]

So I should wait 2 weeks to start pct after using short esters? I'm gonna wait a week, so that I'm not completely fucked for a week. And we're not supposed to run hcg during pct since it's suppressive from what I understand.

You can actually run it the first week while introducing your SERM's.

mands

 

[ickyrica]

Saw your picture on the other forum and you look NOTHING like your profile pic.
Keep hiding behind a fake picture. Your advice SUCK just like your REAL physique

lol. You are such a jackass. You know nothing.

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

How soon after I stop an 8 week test propionate and npp cycle do I start pct? I haven't been able to find a definite answer, is it the next day, 3 days later, or a week? Thanks

What you have for your PCT?

 

[SteroidsBro]

What you have for your PCT?

A week after last shot I run nolva 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/100/50/50 and hcg up until 3 days before start of pct.

It worked great last cycle.

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

A week after last shot I run nolva 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/100/50/50 and hcg up until 3 days before start of pct.

It worked great last cycle.

Nolva with nandrolones - bad idea. I recommend use clomid and/or toremifene. When your last inject?

 

[SteroidsBro]

Last injection was 6 days ago. I ran nolva the whole cycle and was fine. 10mg/day the first 4 weeks and 10mg/eod the rest of the cycle.

 

[mands]

Nolva with nandrolones - bad idea. I recommend use clomid and/or toremifene. When your last inject?

Why?

mands

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

Last injection was 6 days ago. I ran nolva the whole cycle and was fine. 10mg/day the first 4 weeks and 10mg/eod the rest of the cycle.

Nolva and nandrolones very bad idea, 6 day... Hm, you can start your PCT right now. I recommend you clomid 1wk 150 mg 2wk 100 mg 3 wk 100 mg 4wk 50mg 5wk 50 mg or toremifene 1wk 90mg 2wk 60mg 3wk 60mg 4wk 30 mg 5wk 30 mg or C+T 1wk C100mg+T60mg 2wk same 3wk C50+T30mg 4wk same. Also don't forget PCT means not only "recover" your eggs function...liver/lipids/kidneys/metabolic system...