PCT log - Short Test P cycle

[lshaw]

This is going to be my PCT log, feel free to comment and post advice if you want. @Michael Scally MD please could you read and comment?

I’m 32 (87 kgs, 181cm) and this was my first cycle.
Was supposed to be a 10 weeks cycle but I cut it at the 7th week because of side effects (sleep disturbances, high prolactin, low sex drive, lethargy). I understood that AAS are not for me!

I pinned 50mg Test Prop ED,
the first 3 weeks I pinned also 200mg Primo EOD.
Used 500iud HCG every week.

I had 3 bloodworks during cycle and I visited an anabolic doctor, who prescribed me the caber for the prolactin and the PCT meds.

I started PCT 2 weeks ago, about 5 days after last injection of Test P.

PCT is:
1500ius of HCG EOD for 16 days, at the same time 20mg Nolvadex ED and 25 mg Clomid ED.
Then only Tamoxifen and Clomid for other 2 weeks, finally only Tamoxifen for other 2 weeks.Doctor said I can use only Tamoxifen but I preferred to go with a low dose of clomid to heal faster.

The last 2 weeks I felt amazing on same days, and lethargic and foggy brain on some days.

Supplements are:
Cod liver oil (heart)
Gluthatione (for detox)
Multivitamin
Vit D 3000ius
5HTP (mood, sleep)
Melatonin (sleep)


Day 15 PCT:

Last 3 nights I slept only 5 hours, I don’t have problems falling asleep but I wake up early and can not sleep more.
Today I don’t feel foggy, just a bit tired.
Hopefully tonight I will sleep better.
I had my blood taken yesterday, in the next days I will post the blood work.
Next post tomorrow.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Wow. Unlucky response to just 350mg Test...no issues prior to cycle and sure it was test? What was your e2 during the cycle? No anti-e used right?

 

[lshaw]

No issues prior cycle.
I’m sure it was proper test, I had 2 blood works during cycle, Test was 3 times the normal range and E2 in check.
I only used Aromasin for one week at 6.5mg ED when I felt my nipples a bit sensitive/itchy.

 

[bigrobbie]

Unfortunate you're gear sensitive bro. Its not for everybody. Glad your doing a proper PCT.

 

[lshaw]

Unfortunate you're gear sensitive bro. Its not for everybody. Glad your doing a proper PCT.

Yes it sucks! I so wanted to use gear, and I researched a lot about it...

 

[lshaw]

Day 16 PCT

Today I feel much better! A clear mind makes such a difference!

Sex drive is up, I managed to “entertain” my GF very successfully.

Sleeping is still an issue, I keep sleeping 5 hours per night, hopefully this will improve. I am currently taking Melatonin, 5HTP, B6 and Magnesium. I also ordered ashwaganda with the purpose of reducing cortisol. I read that clomid raise cortisol by 80%, so this might be why I wake up too early and cannot fall asleep again...

Strength in the gym is very good, like on cycle. I keep lifting heavy weights but I do less repetitions.

Next post will be tomorrow.

 

[lshaw]

Day 18 PCT

I’m sleeping better.

I had to take 3 mg of zopiclon after dinner but then I slept the whole night and I felt very rested when I woke up. I used the Zopiclone in the past and it’s not addictive if less than 2 weeks, so I will take it for a few days to get a better sleep.

No sex drive but if I’m stimulated I perform just fine.
I have cialis on hand but I dont use it yet.

Still holding the 7 kgs gained during the short cycle but I’m certainly less vascular.

I have
Will update soon.

 

[lshaw]

Day 19 PCT

Very good strength in the gym and morning wood.

Today I got the results of the very extensive blood work.
The sample was taken 5 days ago.

Low testosterone (8.4/9.50-29)
Low Estradiol (18 )
Lh 2.5
FSG 3.5
That means that something is happening in terms of recovery.
Everything else was fine (liver, kidneys etc)

That’s why I was feeling crap a few days ago... Now I know what does it mean to feel old.

However now I feel much better, so I think that clomid and tamoxifen are kicking in.

I will do another blood work in about 10 days.

After the blood work I decided to up the clomid to 50mg ED and keep the tamoxifen at 20 for other 2 weeks, then only tamoxifen for other 10 days.
I’m also adding 25 mg of Enclomiphene ED for a week.

Will post again in 2 days time.

 

[lshaw]

DAY 24 PCT

Finally things are improving a lot,
night and morning erections, very high sex drive, good mood and lots of energy.

I lost only one kg and so far kept 6kgs of gains.

Upping the clomid to 50mg ED was a good move.

Other 7 days of clomid at 50mg ED left, then only tamoxifen.

Next blood test in one week from today.

 

[lshaw]

Day 34 PCT

The results of the 22nd Sep BW came back and are great.

Test is 27,50 (12-29)
E2 is 51 (41-159)
Free T is 0.532 (0.2-0,64)
LH is 5.8 (1,7-8,6)
FSH is 4.9 (1.5-12.84)

From now on no more clomid, i will just keep taking Nolvadex for other 10 days.

Finally I’m sleeping better but a max of 6h, could be clomid side effects.

Current weight 86

 

[lshaw]

Day 36 PCT

I decided to continue Clomid at 25mg ED for other 7 days and Tamoxifen for other 20 days at 20mg per day.

Sleeping is the main issue here!
I always wake up too early.

I started taking 25mg of MK677 from today. The extra GH produced should help me to sleep efficiently.

I think that also reducing Clomid dose to 25mg will ease my insomnia.

I have zopiclone and diazepam in my drawer but I don’t want to take them anymore as they are counterproductive towards the recovery of HPTA.

One positive: sex drive is very good and I jizz like a porn actor...

One question (if anyone is reading this log ) I have some DSIP peptide, should I try to use it??
I read a study in which it boosted LH production and improved sleep in 8 healthy males... any experience??

 

[lshaw]

Day 38 PCT

I discontinued the MK677; it made me crave for sweets like crazy!
Yesterday I ate candies and chocolates like a 9 year old child and today I was urinating too often, which I think is connected.

Tomorrow I have another appointment with the anabolic doctor that is following me, I want to discuss the option of cutting short the PCT and continue to recover naturally.

As I said in OP, AAS are clearly not for me!
I had already the gear ready for my second cycle (Test E and Dbol) but I think I’ll just throw it away.

Considering that my cycle was only 6 weeks long it’s ridiculous that my PCT is going on so long. What do you guys think?
(Blood work in previous posts)

 

[Reno]

too much worry here bro. dont use steroids again, you are very anxious

 

[lshaw]

too much worry here bro. dont use steroids again, you are very anxious

Thank you for the reply.

I wasn’t anxious before the cycle but yes, I will not touch aas anymore as I said above.

Have you seen my last blood work?
Do you think I could stop PCT and recover naturally at this point?

 

[Reno]

labs seem ok. just relax and recheck blood values in a month

 

[lshaw]

Update

The source of my misery was the Clomid... As soon as I discontinued I felt fine again... Insomnia went away and finally I sleep well. Actually overall I feel very well!

Keep eating a good clean diet and hot the gym 4 days per week and so far I lost only one kg. Strangely I also have good vascularity, maybe the 2.5 Cialis that I take ED help..

I had a blood work the last day of PCT and showed:

Total T: 26,2 (8-29)
LH: 6.5 (1.7-8.6)
E2: 48 (41-159)

I will re-check blood in a month and will update this log.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Yeah Clomid is by far the worst drug I have ever taken.