pct...the struggles are real!

[Spooby]

I'll agree on the short cycles, but the reality is it just isn't feasible for most first timers to pin ed or eod, when they can barely bring themselves to pin at all. This is why we see so many wishfully asking if they can get away with oral only cycles. Regardless of what they say the reason is, I'd wager 90% of those cases originate from fear of pinning. Anyways, I apologize for the attack. I could have found a better way to state my disagreement with your advice.

That is true. I tend to refer them to use test E at first, by the time it would be best to swap to a short ester, they probably won't be afraid of the needle anymore. It's quick and painless... after that if they have a complete cycle, thisis where it's better to do a short cycle with another compound involved.