PEP test-e contaminant testing?

Agreed but I wasn’t discounting gravity, that would be just as silly as mentioning it ;)
My questions were all around the ratio of BA to oil.
If gravity is the sole factor here then why the PIP is not recurring after cutting the test with additional oil and injecting .2 CC more?

Perhaps the depot is better with a lower % of BA, or perhaps the more diluted hormone is simply less subject to crystallizing within the muscle once the BA has been absorbed. I've yet to meet injection pain that doesn't travel down though.
 
So I have access to a plethora of microbiology equipment and I was thinking about throwing a bit of PEP gear on some TSA, growing medium for most types of bacteria, and seeing what I get. Would anyone be interested? I am in no way shape or form associated with PEP so I think this may be a fair way to test my vials for bacterial contamination.

well...someone just tested it on his leg and got a diagnosed infection. dont know what more prove or disprove youre trying to come up with, but go ahead.
 
Well, someone just tested it on his leg and got a diagnosed infection. Do not know what more proof or disprove youre trying to come up with, but go ahead.
One, it was not a diagnosed infection he said it cleared up without the use of antibiotics. Two, you clearly did not read anything in this thread, if you did you would have seen that I did test my oil suspension last week and found a light contamination. We also discussed these data in detail with members of this website that have a much higher intellectual capability than yourself. Dr Jim and others that are proficient in medicinal microbiology spoke on how this contamination was so small it was hard to quantify. This is MY oil and is in no way a comprehensive test for contamination of PEPs gear. I filtered mine because I feel more comfortable with it and I plan on continuing my cycle. If you continue to post about me being a shill for PEP I will continue to make you look like a fucking idiot. Get off my dick.
 
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One, it was not a diagnosed infection he said it cleared up without the use of antibiotics. Two, you clearly did not read anything in this thread, if you did you would have seen that I did test my oil suspension last week and found a light contamination. We also discussed these data in detail with members of this website that have a much higher intellectual capability than yourself. Dr Jim and others that are proficient in medicinal microbiology spoke on how this contamination was so small it was hard to quantify. This is MY oil and is in no way a comprehensive test for contamination of PEPs gear. I filtered mine because I feel more comfortable with it because I plan on continuing my cycle. If you continue to post about me being a shill for PEP I will continue to make you look like a fucking idiot. Get off my dick.

1) it was a diagnosed infection, he showed the picture in color. 2) you wanna get youre teeth knocked out? pm your home address.
 
well...someone just tested it on his leg and got a diagnosed infection. dont know what more prove or disprove youre trying to come up with, but go ahead.

The doctor told him it was cellulitis based on a visual examination. No culture was done.

Some would call this the proactive approach on the part of the physician. I suspect it may be a case of a patient who's claiming that he may have an infection from steroid use, and a doctor that decided to take what was in all likelihood a histaminic reaction, and allow it to be a scare tactic to dissuade him from further use.

Since he never started, or immediately discontinued the course of antibiotics, and had in fact pinned the gear again and is symptom free, I'm going to stand by my initial thought that it was only an allergic reaction due to a botched injection.

That said, I'd like to slap Steve, and PEP's reaction was still wrong to me. I can't work customer service because I'm a short tempered asshole, and I can't stand whiny customers. I know this about myself, and have greatly distanced myself from that profession. IMO this situation with PEP boils down far more to his lack of process improvement and over the top insulting reaction than anything to do with his gear. If he had kept his cool, admitted to his mistakes, and showed how he was taking steps to fix his shit, I think he could have pulled it out, and I was hoping he would.

Good sources are good for the community. It's really a shame to me. This place has a tough crowd. Takes a special kid of personality to handle it, and that's as much part of the job as brewing good gear.
 
1) it was a diagnosed infection, he showed the picture in color. 2) you wanna get your teeth knocked out? pm your home address.
Your mastery of the English language is close to my four year old niece.
1. Empirical evidence does not constitute diagnosis.
2. Yeah, let me send you my address. I am out of the house almost every day but if you come by around seven in the evening I should be around.
 
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Your mastery of the English language is close to my four year old niece.
1. Empirical evidence does not constitute diagnosis.
2. Yeah, let me send you my address. I am out of the house almost every day but if you come by around seven in the evening I should be around.

1. about my grammar: "you think youre smart cause you read fucking shakespeare?" [:o)]
2. Will youre wife be there before 7?

Sorry i didnt read the entire thread, youre right. Candyskull's reasoning i can accept.
 
conquistador drop it. you went [:o)] in that post before.
Men accept their mistakes and move on.
idiots continue fighting and make a bigger [:o)] of themselves.
chose what you are.
 
conquistador drop it. you went [:o)] in that post before.
Men accept their mistakes and move on.
idiots continue fighting and make a bigger [:o)] of themselves.
chose what you are.

yeah, most of the time i tend to forget is just the internet, and take people's attitude as if they were LIVE and meaningful towards me, i get a spike of desperation but i cool off very quickly. ...and your grammar beats my own :)
 
yeah, most of the time i tend to forget is just the internet, and take people's attitude as if they were LIVE and meaningful towards me, i get a spike of desperation but i cool off very quickly. ...and your grammar beats my own :)

people, english isnt my native language.
people made fun of me before. i keep telling you, check my profile
it says europe. not UK, not AU, not USA.
plz again, im gonna change my name to: iDontKnowProperGrammar
 
people, english isnt my native language.
people made fun of me before. i keep telling you, check my profile
it says europe. not UK, not AU, not USA.
plz again, im gonna change my name to: iDontKnowProperGrammar

you know... there is a member here, his name is world pharma, he can help you with your grammar...[:o)]

dont give it any thought: english not my language either first ulala
 
NO! The monoject filters are not used to filter bacteria but rather particulate material which may accumulate when multidose vials are used. Consequently they are designed for the ASPIRATION of vial contents, and can NOT be used for the injection of medications.
 
NO! The monoject filters are not used to filter bacteria but rather particulate material which may accumulate when multidose vials are used. Consequently they are designed for the ASPIRATION of vial contents, and can NOT be used for the injection of medications.

Ok thanks for the info Doc.
 
The doctor told him it was cellulitis based on a visual examination. No culture was done.

Some would call this the proactive approach on the part of the physician. I suspect it may be a case of a patient who's claiming that he may have an infection from steroid use, and a doctor that decided to take what was in all likelihood a histaminic reaction, and allow it to be a scare tactic to dissuade him from further use.

Since he never started, or immediately discontinued the course of antibiotics, and had in fact pinned the gear again and is symptom free, I'm going to stand by my initial thought that it was only an allergic reaction due to a botched injection.

That said, I'd like to slap Steve, and PEP's reaction was still wrong to me. I can't work customer service because I'm a short tempered asshole, and I can't stand whiny customers. I know this about myself, and have greatly distanced myself from that profession. IMO this situation with PEP boils down far more to his lack of process improvement and over the top insulting reaction than anything to do with his gear. If he had kept his cool, admitted to his mistakes, and showed how he was taking steps to fix his shit, I think he could have pulled it out, and I was hoping he would.

Good sources are good for the community. It's really a shame to me. This place has a tough crowd. Takes a special kid of personality to handle it, and that's as much part of the job as brewing good gear.
Maybe a root cause analysis or even a simple Boolean logic test would be more in order than this frivolous pursuit of guesswork which both encourages this shameless practice and carries us even further from that which some of us would choose to put an end to! Mindless speculation,instead of the pursuit of truth.
Call me an old fashioned sort but to arrive at a logical conclusion, it is first necessary to remove from the equation,anything that cant be proved,i.e.cellulitis. Cellulitis' most common causes are streptococcus pyrogenees,staphylococcus(group a-B.hemolytic streptococci);staphylococcoccus aureous;group B,C,D,or G-B staphylococci)Each of which are bacteria and would NOT always suggest a histamine reaction. None of which can be ascertained with certainty,unless a blood culture has been performed.Since we are told NO CULTURE was obtained we must rule out cellulitis with s measure of certainty as we have neither corroberated nor uncorroberated evidence of such. especially if a puncture wound is the likely vector by which the bacteria entered the body(I was under the impression that Steve told the ED physician his malady was caused by a needle-stick),And the speed that the injury healed. It is highly common to diagnose cellulitis without blood cultures being taken but that is a very dangerous practice,indeed as suspected cellulitis is sometimes deep vein thrombosis in disguise and much worse!. Or so I am told. Many people die daily from allergic reactions and since last I heard Steve is very much alive,we cannot say that an allergic reaction isnt dangerous and just wash our hands of it!
The point being that we cannot just make assumptions based on"gut-feelings" we need incontrovertible evidence otherwise we are engaging in guess-work.Secondly we do not know what the physician was trying to do,just get rid of a non-emergent case or was he trying to teach the hapless Steve a lesson? We again are speculating.. For shame!
How are we ever going to determine the truth if we continue to engage in this sort of activity?
We arent,are we?
Lets confine our conclusions to those things we know, not those we feel, if we want to be taken seriously by our peers.
I admit I go with my gut a lot but when it comes down to wanting to be certain of something it takes a little more work than many of us care to subject ourselves to!
When I go to class or to the doctor,Id like to know that those I turn my body and mind over too arent just "shooting in the dark" This isnt how science is done!!








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