samsc744
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Yes, Whatman Sterile PVDF 0.2 um
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PEP test-e contaminant testing?
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Yes, Whatman Sterile PVDF 0.2 um
samsc744
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I think yesterday was my 7th injection, all in the outer quad, first 4 were bad enough to make me walk funny for 4 days each but not crippling by any means.
Two after that weren't as bad but still feels like a a ping pong ball is impeded in my quad but not enough pain to impact my walk.
I will let you know how the last one feels in couple of days but so far zero pip. All this being said, the pip at it's worst didn't impact my sleep or training schedule.
joe0035
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Thanks man, like I said i am trying to get a frame of reference, ugl's are new to me its been a long time since I ran anything and when people talk about lumps and pip I try to figure it out compared to what I experienced in the past. I have had golf ball sized lumps but they were do it it being 50mg per cc vet laurabolin (deca) and having to do large volume shots and they took a while to dissipate also sust 250 pre-loads with huge pins! One of them to the quad fucking made you walk funny for a few days! lol and it was pharma grade! 
here some ppl wanted this. Heat and filter your gear always!
Code:
http://thinksteroids.com/forum/steroid-homebrew/how-heat-filter-your-134350053.html#post9714391 time
if you look around you can get them for about $2.00 each or buy in bulk and get them a little cheaper
Yeah I've seen them in packages for like 200 bucks
50ml is fine. I think its 100ml but not 100% sure
samsc744
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Thanks Joe, excellent info. Bookmarked
Ya know while it probably doesn't hurt to heat and filter UGL gear when you consider how RARE infections actually are, I don't believe this "step" should be considered optimal in any way.
So what you discover a few colonies when the gear was cultured. Is that so unusual, NOT!
Moreover from what I saw the level of contamination was very low and probably doesn't exceed that acquired from a simple dermal scratch.
(In fact levels of contamination that low SHOULD be repeated three fold to ensure inanimate objects or droplet dispersion was not the source)
That's why your body is equipped with an immune system fellas, to combat contamination which occurs every day.
For example, you don't think feces is sterile right?
Well rest assured some of those fecal bacteria do circumnavigate the portal cleansing mechanisms and enter your blood stream.
Yet notin happens!
Bottom line locate a good CLEAN lab and stick with em!
So what you discover a few colonies when the gear was cultured. Is that so unusual, NOT!
Moreover from what I saw the level of contamination was very low and probably doesn't exceed that acquired from a simple dermal scratch.
(In fact levels of contamination that low SHOULD be repeated three fold to ensure inanimate objects or droplet dispersion was not the source)
That's why your body is equipped with an immune system fellas, to combat contamination which occurs every day.
For example, you don't think feces is sterile right?
Well rest assured some of those fecal bacteria do circumnavigate the portal cleansing mechanisms and enter your blood stream.
Yet notin happens!
Bottom line locate a good CLEAN lab and stick with em!
Was waiting for you to chime in Dr Jim! Pretty much what goose stated yesterday. Thanks for your input doc!
That sounds well and good BUT unless folks know what they are doing, I've no doubt some will only INCREASE the level of contamination thru some poorly defined filter and heating process.
Moreover I understand you only performed a single culture per vial (a three set culture regime is the current medical standard) and did NOT subtype the results.
Consequently you really have no idea WHERE such low level contamination came from.
Jim
Moreover I understand you only performed a single culture per vial (a three set culture regime is the current medical standard) and did NOT subtype the results.
Consequently you really have no idea WHERE such low level contamination came from.
Jim
Yea but Goose is MUCH wiser than me!
Hey 03-52
I certainly applaud your efforts. We need more like yourself willing to go the extra mile for all Meso members
I certainly applaud your efforts. We need more like yourself willing to go the extra mile for all Meso members
I appreciate that, I certainly cannot argue that I did an absolute complete testing, I am in research and not in medicine and not familiar with what is hospital standard. What is standard for us is if the data deviates from the control, which in this case it did, than you have a "discovery". I appreciate you knowledge, as I assume you are a Dr of some sort. For myself what makes me comfortable is vacuum filtering my gear because I have not yet found a great clean UGL. I am comfortable with all of these procedures and have a sterile environment, not my bathroom, to do it in. I certainly think the BA in the vial, which is there I spun a sample in a centrifuge to see it, is enough to keep microbes at a minimum.
EDIT: I just do not want any bacteria in mine.
Candyskull
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I'm just wondering where you get the idea that pharma grade injectable preparations have no bacteria, because the FDA and ISO 17025 both have provisions for maximum allowable bacteria content in compounded sterile products, and it's not zero. Preparations are checked on a determined lot sample percentage, and 'x' amount checked are allowed only 'y' number that fail for the lot to be accepted, but even the 'x' preparations have allowable amounts of bacteria.
I don't know what that threshold is or means specifically, but I know there is one because I know those standards.
And although I've posted it about 1,000 times now, this PDF is pretty tell tale.
http://www.pda.org/Chapters/North-A...igm-PhD-Pfizer-Global-Quality-Operations.aspx
samsc744
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So a day after a shot of the filtered test e and the pip is far less pronounced, probably because of the 1 cc I added to every 10cc.
03xx52 you mentioned you had the vial in a centrifuge, how much BA was there?
03xx52 you mentioned you had the vial in a centrifuge, how much BA was there?
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