Peptide that is close to botox?

[Training till failure]

I know GHK-CU is a good aesthetic peptide and hgh for skin too and was wondering if there are any others like that or anything like botox?

Any peptides that is as close as you can get to botox that anyone is aware of?

 

[Ghoul]

Not a peptide, but low dose isotretinoin is "secret" used by many to improve the condition of skin, reducing wrinkles and improving elasticity, and pharma grade is cheap from India PCT.

If you have acne, a high dose "full course" can significantly rejuvenate skin in adults with signs of photo damage/aging.

 

[Training till failure]

Not a peptide, but low dose isotretinoin is "secret" used by many to improve the condition of skin, reducing wrinkles and improvingelastocity, and pharma grade is cheap from India PCT.

If you have acne, a high dose "full course" can significantly rejuvenate skin in adults with signs of photo damage/aging.

I don't bother with international payments anymore as first lab I used they gave me bank details, sent money, sent proof, then claiming they didn't receive money because they gave "wrong bank details" and I didn't get the money refunded back lol.

Second international payment I sent to a different international lab used the bank details they gave me, sent proof, then claiming they haven't received payment and "sending me a refund" so now I don't bother with international labs.

Only use UK sources now because of this and don't get this problem.

I can get Accutane thankfully from UK labs.

 

[rockyraccoon]

I know GHK-CU is a good aesthetic peptide and hgh for skin too and was wondering if there are any others like that or anything like botox?

Any peptides that is as close as you can get to botox that anyone is aware of?

SNAP-8

 

[Justaguy99]

SNAP-8

I'm not seeing much for results with snap.
Well my gf.
using with hyaluronic acid in a cream.

 

[Ghoul]

I'm not seeing much for results with snap.
Well my gf.
using with hyaluronic acid in a cream.

hyaluronic acid is fantastic. You can get much stronger products (probably illegally so) from China.

 

[Training till failure]

I'm not seeing much for results with snap.
Well my gf.
using with hyaluronic acid in a cream.

How you mixing snap with? I'll order some snap-8, but no idea how you mix it with cream as I've never made a cream with it?

 

[lilhawk]

Not a peptide, but low dose isotretinoin is "secret" used by many to improve the condition of skin, reducing wrinkles and improving elasticity, and pharma grade is cheap from India PCT.

If you have acne, a high dose "full course" can significantly rejuvenate skin in adults with signs of photo damage/aging.

How does Tretinoin 0.05% cream compare to accutane as far as benefits for the skin?

 

[Justaguy99]

Reconstitute then add to 30ml hyaluronic acid over night cream.
Apparently shouldn't have vitamin c.
I haven't had time to research her cream but she does say it tightens her face up reducing wrinkles a bit.

 

[Ghoul]

How does Tretinoin 0.05% cream compare to accutane as far as benefits for the skin?

Better results since it's systemic, reaching deeper than a topical can, and thus far, appear to be lasting effects

Earlier studies that used simple, subjective measures of improvement suggested the results were equal, but newer methods that can measure the remodeling of collagen show significant, durable differences.

It's very telling that in recent years a lot of staff members of dermatologist offices have gone onto low dose isotretinoin regimens.

And also there's the simplicity of a couple of gelcaps a week, that benefits skin everywhere on the body, vs a time consuming topical application.

Durability of the improvement of collagen I and collagen III with the use of oral isotretinoin in the treatment of photoaging - PubMed

Low-dose ISO is effective in remodeling the extracellular matrix (ECM). This study found that the increase of collagen occurs through the augmentation of both collagen I and collagen III fibers. With originality, it was possible to verify the durability of these fibers for at least 12 weeks...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Ateam2023]

hyaluronic acid is fantastic. You can get much stronger products (probably illegally so) from China.

i just started taking 300 mg of hyalauronic acid daily, its only been a couple weeks , so idk if full benefits have helped it says it takes 3-6 weeks for skin elasticity to begin ,,,,,

 

[Ghoul]

i just started taking 300 mg of hyalauronic acid daily, its only been a couple weeks , so idk if full benefits have helped it says it takes 3-6 weeks for skin elasticity to begin ,,,,,

Good for the joints as well being the primary source of natural lubrication. Still trying to choose an oral hyaluronic supplement.

 

[Ateam2023]

Good for the joints as well being the primary source of natural lubrication. Still trying to choose an oral hyaluronic supplement.

i just tried this random product off Amazon, its a higher mg than most suggested mg per dose,,,,

 

[Training till failure]

Reconstitute then add to 30ml hyaluronic acid over night cream.
Apparently shouldn't have vitamin c.
I haven't had time to research her cream but she does say it tightens her face up reducing wrinkles a bit.

Could I mix it with this?

 

[Justaguy99]

Could I mix it with this?View attachment 310410

Personally I don't see why not.
She uses Retinol 24 + Peptide

 

[mikeh1998]

Better results since it's systemic, reaching deeper than a topical can, and thus far, appear to be lasting effects

Earlier studies that used simple, subjective measures of improvement suggested the results were equal, but newer methods that can measure the remodeling of collagen show significant, durable differences.

It's very telling that in recent years a lot of staff members of dermatologist offices have gone onto low dose isotretinoin regimens.

And also there's the simplicity of a couple of gelcaps a week, that benefits skin everywhere on the body, vs a time consuming topical application.

Durability of the improvement of collagen I and collagen III with the use of oral isotretinoin in the treatment of photoaging - PubMed

Low-dose ISO is effective in remodeling the extracellular matrix (ECM). This study found that the increase of collagen occurs through the augmentation of both collagen I and collagen III fibers. With originality, it was possible to verify the durability of these fibers for at least 12 weeks...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Do you think that taking low dose long term Accutane is superior to using topical Tretinoin? Should people who use topical Tretinoin consider dropping it and switch to low dose Accutane?

Tretinoin has done a lot so far to reduce my acne scars. Looking at pictures from age 20 vs age 26 I sometimes look younger in my current photos because there's less scarring. I have used gels and creams and solidly prefer the gels because they work instantly whereas creams stay on your face for a while. I increased the strength over time from 0.025% to 0.05% to 0.1%.

Finacea Gel 15% is insanely effective btw and undertalked about. I got it prescribed for hyperpigmentation by a telehealth doc and it made a massive instant difference compared to Tretinoin, which makes a change over a longer period of time. If I don't apply Finacea Gel for a while and then re-apply it in the morning one day people people instantly notice and tell me I look way healthier and younger.

 

[rockyraccoon]

How you mixing snap with? I'll order some snap-8, but no idea how you mix it with cream as I've never made a cream with it?

Never tried SNAP-8, but do like to buy GHK-CU raws and throw a couple of grams of it in a hyaluronic acid base from the ordinary. Never really been a fan of cream bases.

 

[Training till failure]

Never tried SNAP-8, but do like to buy GHK-CU raws and throw a couple of grams of it in a hyaluronic acid base from the ordinary. Never really been a fan of cream bases.
View attachment 310424

I inject GHK-CU.

This is still great to know however.

Wonder if you can just put 1ml of snap-8 in a dropper bottle and just use it with the bac water as a serum over the skin?

 

[rockyraccoon]

I inject GHK-CU.

This is still great to know however.

Wonder if you can just put 1ml of snap-8 in a dropper bottle and just use it with the bac water as a serum over the skin?

I used to inject the GHK-CU too, but now for deeper penetration I just mix the raws in my DMSO/urea solution. So far I like it way more than injections. The GHK-CU + HA serum is just used as a moisturizer.

Rubbing the reconstituted snap might not be super effective, but you never know until you try it.

 

[songsofpyramids]

Never tried SNAP-8, but do like to buy GHK-CU raws and throw a couple of grams of it in a hyaluronic acid base from the ordinary. Never really been a fan of cream bases.
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Ordinary even has a serum with ghk-cu in it already.