Peptides for healing injuries

[ironwill1951]

do you guys really believe what you are saying ? you sound like one of those hokey 30 min info mercials , I just got back from the mayo clinic about an hr ago when I hear them recommending that stuff ill use it . until then ill do what my dr recommends .

 

[AKphysique]

L4-L5 is where mine is too. Ill give it a shot

No meds* is what I meant to say. Stay hydrated and consistent.

 

[Dr JIM]

Hey doc, question. I have a "slight"petrusion in a disc in my lower back, its bad enough I don't dead lift at all anymore bc of the pain. I know its not going to heal, but is there anything I could use to help get me by so I can get back on track in the gym? I already take 3000mg o tramadol a day and I don't want to go the narco route so I'm curious if there's any relief to be found with any peps or related drugs. And anyone feel free to chime in. I'm a complete peptide virgin so I'm still kinda in the dark about a lot of the uses and effects of them. Thanks.

A "slight disk protrusion" would only RARELY, if ever, result in signs or symptoms exclusive of localized back pain which resolves spontaneously.

In fact, the overwhelming majority are considered nothing more than "incidental" MRI findings since such pathology may be noted in as many as 80% of otherwise asymptomatic patients!

To that end, I could envision patients of this type being utilized as a "PEP treatment group" of sorts, as a means of proving PEPs are an effective form of therapy.

Of course since effectively all comers with this sort of pathology improve over time with "conservative care", the efficacy of "PEP therapy" would be very unlikely to exceed that of placebo!

 

[Shortfuse11]

IM, post: 1456024, member: 50161"]A "slight disk protrusion" would only RARELY, if ever, result in signs or symptoms exclusive of localized back pain which resolves spontaneously.

In fact, the overwhelming majority are considered nothing more than "incidental" MRI findings since such pathology may be noted in as many as 80% of otherwise asymptomatic patients!

To that end, I could envision patients of this type being utilized as a "PEP treatment group" of sorts, as a means of proving PEPs are an effective form of therapy.

Of course since effectively all comers with this sort of pathology improve over time with "conservative care", the efficacy of "PEP therapy" would be very unlikely to exceed that of placebo!

Whoa scooter, I didn't say it would or wouldn't. I have no idea, I'm just looking for opinions and fact based information. As far as my back issues, not that it's pertinent to this thread, is between the S3-L5 region with two compressed disc, one of which has started to pertrude along with having some nerve impingement. So its not a blimp on the screen, it sucks and I'm looking for relief outside of the normal surgery or narcotics.

 

[Dr JIM]

Two disk compressions by the S3 and L5 region I don't think so scooter!

What you fail to understand is a "MINOR disk protrusion" does NOT cause nerve compression of any magnitude that "SURGERY or NARCS" should not even be mentioned in the same vain!

Yes it's a blip on the screen and very unlikely to be the CAUSE of your back pain. Post the MRI and include the radiologist interpretation Id love to review it since you have yet to mention any signs or symptoms that are consistent with a "nerve root compression".

Otherwise stick with message as it seems to be the only from of therapy you comprehend.

 

[Shortfuse11]

[QUITE]="Dr JIM, post: 1456063, member: 50161"]Two disk compressions by the S3 and L5 region I don't think so scooter!

What you fail to understand is a "MINOR disk protrusion" does NOT cause nerve compression of any magnitude that "SURGERY or NARCS" should not even be mentioned in the same vain!

Yes it's a blip on the screen and very unlikely to be the CAUSE of your back pain. Post the MRI and include the radiologist interpretation Id love to review it since you have yet to mention any signs or symptoms that are consistent with a "nerve root compression".

Otherwise stick with message as it seems to be the only from of therapy you comprehend.[/QUOTE]

#1 im not the massage therapist, you're talking to the wrong person. #2 I never said what caused the nerve impingement, bc I don't know... IM NOT A DR you narcissistic asshat! I digress, your reasons aren't relavant and clearly neither are you. Douchebags like you are why I can't wait for the zombie apocalypse.

 

[ironwill1951]

Douchebags like you are why I can't wait for the zombie apocalypse.[/

your handle fits you well . although immature or baby should be in front of it. iron


#1 im not the massage therapist, you're talking to the wrong person. #2 I never said what caused the nerve impingement, bc I don't know... IM NOT A DR you narcissistic asshat! I digress, your reasons aren't relavant and clearly neither are you. Douchebags like you are why I can't wait for the zombie apocalypse.[/QUOTE

 

[AKphysique]

Lol

 

[Dr JIM]

[QUITE]="Dr JIM, post: 1456063, member: 50161"]Two disk compressions by the S3 and L5 region I don't think so scooter!

What you fail to understand is a "MINOR disk protrusion" does NOT cause nerve compression of any magnitude that "SURGERY or NARCS" should not even be mentioned in the same vain!

Yes it's a blip on the screen and very unlikely to be the CAUSE of your back pain. Post the MRI and include the radiologist interpretation Id love to review it since you have yet to mention any signs or symptoms that are consistent with a "nerve root compression".

Otherwise stick with message as it seems to be the only from of therapy you comprehend.

#1 im not the massage therapist, you're talking to the wrong person. #2 I never said what caused the nerve impingement, bc I don't know... IM NOT A DR you narcissistic asshat! I digress, your reasons aren't relavant and clearly neither are you. Douchebags like you are why I can't wait for the zombie apocalypse.[/QUOTE]

I digress scooter you're just another clown with a "short fuse" bc you don't know what "nerve impingement" is, WTF or HTF to cycle or use AAS or PEPs correctly.

In fact bc people of your ilk have convinced me awaiting the "apocalypse" would enable further contamination of the human gene pool, I now support court mandated depo-testosterone "contraceptive" injections, or directed castration!

 

[achilles87]

@Dr JIM this shortfuse11 guy is really smart just let me tell you lol, he's another sworder.

 

[Dr JIM]

@Dr JIM this shortfuse11 guy is really smart just let me tell you lol, he's another sworder.

Yea I know but it's slow in the ED right now, and toying with circus monkeys can be entertaining when bored, !

 

[achilles87]

Yea I know but it's slow in the ED right now, lol!

Hahahaha I understand completely! Just give him some time, he will google search and come back with more bs.

 

[AKphysique]

@Dr JIM
What do you think about spinal decompression for disc health?

 

[Dr JIM]

The only spinal decompression I know of requires surgery but if your referring to the use of inversion modalities the fact we spend close to 50% of the time in an erect position, I can't imagine limiting the amount of "disk compression" thru the use of inversion boots improves disk health.

I know some find Inversion TX relaxing and as such for benign MS disorders it may even expedite the effect of healing.

In that regard I'm for darn near anything that circumvents surgery for spinal issues excluding very select conditions.

 

[AKphysique]

The only spinal decompression I know of requires surgery but if your referring to the use of inversion modalities the fact we spend close to 50% of the time in an erect position, I can't imagine limiting the amount of "disk compression" thru the use of inversion boots improves disk health.

I know some find Inversion TX relaxing and as such for benign MS disorders it may even expedite the effect of healing.

In that regard I'm for darn near anything that circumvents surgery for spinal issues excluding very select conditions.

Agreed but when I herniated my L4-L5 I was mostly laying down and using an inversion table twice a day. It helped me quite a bit, or so I think. The fact that I was 20 years old might be a contributing factor to the speed of my recovery as well

 

[Dr JIM]

Spinal traction "decompression" techniques are not new to medicine as a form of MS therapy.

The devices ranged from traction tables to inversion "boots" and were used on a somewhat frequent basis in the 1950-60s.

They proved to be a miserable FAILURE and in fact often resulted in more harm than good as the list of complications ranged from Deep Vein Thrombosis to traction related abrasions!

 

[AKphysique]

Spinal traction "decompression" techniques are not new to medicine as a form of MS therapy.

The devices ranged from traction tables to inversion "boots" and were used on a somewhat frequent basis in the 1950-60s.

They proved to be a miserable FAILURE and in fact often resulted in more harm than good as the list of complications ranged from Deep Vein Thrombosis to traction related abrasions!

Well then! Haha, luckily enough for me I didn't have any complications. Thanks for taking your time to help out, your insight is appreciated

 

[Shortfuse11]

#1 im not the massage therapist, you're talking to the wrong person. #2 I never said what caused the nerve impingement, bc I don't know... IM NOT A DR you narcissistic asshat! I digress, your reasons aren't relavant and clearly neither are you. Douchebags like you are why I can't wait for the zombie apocalypse.

I digress scooter you're just another clown with a "short fuse" bc you don't know what "nerve impingement" is, WTF or HTF to cycle or use AAS or PEPs correctly.

In fact bc people of your ilk have convinced me awaiting the "apocalypse" would enable further contamination of the human gene pool, I now support court mandated depo-testosterone "contraceptive" injections, or directed castration![/QUOTE]

Yup. You are correct . my knowledge of AAS and even more so PEPs are very limited, hence why I asked yours and everyone else opinion, you havent seen one single post from me where I offer info or knowledge. Im not here to be a know it all. I'm here to learn, but you had to be dick instead of just rendering your opinion. And I'm not gonna sit here and play keyboard commando with you or this Achilles asshole, you're not worth my time. It's pathetic everytime someone reaches out to try and better themselves and their knowledge of AAS degenerates like you two try and stone them. You're like the loser kids in elementary school that picks on all the other kids because you got self esteem issues. Pathetic.

 

[Shortfuse11]

ronwill1951, post: 1456135, member: 63312"]

Yea youre right, I jumped too quick and it was childish. In my defense I'm just tired of people bashing anyone who asks a question or has a different opinion. Regardless I should've just ignored it. I am short fuse...and I come by it honestly.

 

[mands]

I used BPC-157 with TB500. I stopped the TB after a week because I read studies indicating it could promote cancer. I don't remember where I found them but there are quite a few on the internet that are peer-reviewed in nature.

Please find one for me on TB500. I've yet to find any negative feedback or studies on TB500.

mands