Stanley Wilson
New Member
i wanted I quick answer but yes that is the road I'll be going next. Not worried about spending money. I'll be researching which lab to send my other unopened vial too
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Pharmacom/Basic sold bunk/underdosed products for all orders MAY and JUNE
- Thread starter stayinalive
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To be honest, I've never had an issue with Pharmacom oils or orals. Maybe I'm just lucky lol
Not really. I tried. I posted evidence of Pcom underdosing products, even when they claim they are infallible on their site. Darius assured me he'd fix the issue with the underdrosed injectable anadrol I received, radio silence after that... I bought a lot from them, thousands of dollars I am certain. But, that doesn't mean a thing to Pcom. They will continue to push out underdosed products with fancy shills and packaging. This isn't a defense of Stayinalive, rather, another perspective/experience on the way they handle customers who spend money on their products.
What a shame, as Pcom could be the solution for many newer members who are unsure where to order... But, it's not. They don't actually give a fuck, this is why they spend money to have reps on boards... Reps, by the way, that didn't actually reveal they were until they were called out, and branded. Certainly if they are paying reps, they are paying shills to post false experiences/reviews. Certainly they are making fake accounts to also dilute the negative reviews. Realistically, we cannot keep up, nor do I intend to fight this battle every time I see a Pcom thread pop up.
Again, a shame, as a lot of their products would be appealing to me, and are fairly priced after their meso/WKM discounts.
Anyway, best of luck to those who continue to use Pcom, I truly hope you receive quality products, as you are owed.
Hello Sir!
I'm sure they were/are appealing to you, you made 10+ orders with us with discounts starting from 40%.
It's a shame you had to endure our products for so long and keep purchasing them until you finally reached a conclusion .... some other experienced members like the OP can make a quality assessment after only 1 purchase.
Maybe the whole community can contribute in a constructive manner to a standard common protocol you can all share of how a customer can find out if his products are good or bad just after the first 1-2 purchases .... maybe to search for a lab/source who pays customers to test their products to independent labs or who give store credit for sharing bloods would be a good starting point ... just saying ....
Seeing members like Wunderpus who order 10+ times just to reach a negative sentence about a manufacturer it's such a nonproductive waste of resources ... as I'm sure you all know, there are a lot of good and reliable options in this industry.
AnabolicLab via SIMEC published 19 analyses of our products so far.
From those, I think 2 or 3 had indeed deviations of more than +/- 10%.
Our worst result by far was the injectable Anadrol, mentioned above, with -24% active substance, published on 9 May 2016.
Actual content: Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Oxy 50 was determined to have actual content of 37.9 mg/ml oxymetholone.
Radio silence? Absolutely, I prefer to be silent but efficient over demagogy and no results/facts.
What did we do after this AnabolicLab/SIMEC result?
Sent 2 more vials from the same batch for testing.
Results?
1. - 49.2mg/ml
2. - 45.7mg/ml
Results verifiable by requesting an authenticity report for C 44458 and C 44293 to SIMEC.
Sir, we already are that solution and honestly it's not that convenient.
Unfortunately, that's from where most of the absurd and unfounded "complaints" appear, from NEW MEMBERS with poor understanding of this phenomenon and colossal expectations.
Many of these threads would have never appeared if all our customers were like our pro IFBB sponsored athletes but that's not possible: PharmacomStore.ws | Sponsored Athletes
( e.g.) Arnold Classic Winner 2016
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It's fucking disgusting that you are detailing your customer's orders online for all to see. Put the shoe on the other foot and ask yourself if you want all your dirty laundry aired for your customers to see. This is type of behavior you see in a fucking snitch who sings to the cops on all his "friends" and associates to receive a lighter sentence.
It's fucking disgusting that you are detailing your customer's orders online for all to see. Put the shoe on the other foot and ask yourself if you want all your dirty laundry aired for your customers to see. This is type of behavior you see in a fucking snitch who sings to the cops on all his "friends" and associates to receive a lighter sentence.
So fucking what?!?! An analytical report showing your adrol at 37.9mg/ml with a label claim of 50mg/ml is off by 24.2%. How do you know which batch he got? And regardless of what Wunderpus posted, he didn't say you were flat out scamming him. He said it was simply underdosed which you yourself admitted.
System7
Well-known Member
You essentially proved the OP's point with this smug sarcastic post. Complaints in quotation marks. Kill yourself.Hello Sir!
I'm sure they were/are appealing to you, you made 10+ orders with us with discounts starting from 40%.
It's a shame you had to endure our products for so long and keep purchasing them until you finally reached a conclusion .... some other experienced members like the OP can make a quality assessment after only 1 purchase.
Maybe the whole community can contribute in a constructive manner to a standard common protocol you can all share of how a customer can find out if his products are good or bad just after the first 1-2 purchases .... maybe to search for a lab/source who pays customers to test their products to independent labs or who give store credit for sharing bloods would be a good starting point ... just saying ....
Seeing members like Wunderpus who order 10+ times just to reach a negative sentence about a manufacturer it's such a nonproductive waste of resources ... as I'm sure you all know, there are a lot of good and reliable options in this industry.
AnabolicLab via SIMEC published 19 analyses of our products so far.
From those, I think 2 or 3 had indeed deviations of more than +/- 10%.
Our worst result by far was the injectable Anadrol, mentioned above, with -24% active substance, published on 9 May 2016.
Actual content: Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Oxy 50 was determined to have actual content of 37.9 mg/ml oxymetholone.
Radio silence? Absolutely, I prefer to be silent but efficient over demagogy and no results/facts.
What did we do after this AnabolicLab/SIMEC result?
Sent 2 more vials from the same batch for testing.
Results?
1. - 49.2mg/ml
2. - 45.7mg/ml
Results verifiable by requesting an authenticity report for C 44458 and C 44293 to SIMEC.
Sir, we already are that solution and honestly it's not that convenient.
Unfortunately, that's from where most of the absurd and unfounded "complaints" appear, from NEW MEMBERS with poor understanding of this phenomenon and colossal expectations.
Many of these threads would have never appeared if all our customers were like our pro IFBB sponsored athletes but that's not possible: PharmacomStore.ws | Sponsored Athletes
( e.g.) Arnold Classic Winner 2016
How do you know I placed 10+ orders, unless you keep records? I honestly don't even remember how many I made, but I don't think it was that many. In a PM you claim you wipe orders every 3 months from the site, it's been well over 3 months since I ordered last (probably a year plus), your memory is THAT good? Posting your own Simec results is like masturbating in a mirror... I get the point, but it does nothing for anyone but yourself. Amazing that just the stuff that AL received was underdosed, I inquired about mine that was on the way (right when AL posted theirs) then MAGICALLY Frank's Simec tests come back near perfect?! Wow... So amazing, IDK how you guys do it!Hello Sir!
I'm sure they were/are appealing to you, you made 10+ orders with us with discounts starting from 40%.
It's a shame you had to endure our products for so long and keep purchasing them until you finally reached a conclusion .... some other experienced members like the OP can make a quality assessment after only 1 purchase.
Maybe the whole community can contribute in a constructive manner to a standard common protocol you can all share of how a customer can find out if his products are good or bad just after the first 1-2 purchases .... maybe to search for a lab/source who pays customers to test their products to independent labs or who give store credit for sharing bloods would be a good starting point ... just saying ....
Seeing members like Wunderpus who order 10+ times just to reach a negative sentence about a manufacturer it's such a nonproductive waste of resources ... as I'm sure you all know, there are a lot of good and reliable options in this industry.
AnabolicLab via SIMEC published 19 analyses of our products so far.
From those, I think 2 or 3 had indeed deviations of more than +/- 10%.
Our worst result by far was the injectable Anadrol, mentioned above, with -24% active substance, published on 9 May 2016.
Actual content: Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Oxy 50 was determined to have actual content of 37.9 mg/ml oxymetholone.
Radio silence? Absolutely, I prefer to be silent but efficient over demagogy and no results/facts.
What did we do after this AnabolicLab/SIMEC result?
Sent 2 more vials from the same batch for testing.
Results?
1. - 49.2mg/ml
2. - 45.7mg/ml
Results verifiable by requesting an authenticity report for C 44458 and C 44293 to SIMEC.
Sir, we already are that solution and honestly it's not that convenient.
Unfortunately, that's from where most of the absurd and unfounded "complaints" appear, from NEW MEMBERS with poor understanding of this phenomenon and colossal expectations.
Many of these threads would have never appeared if all our customers were like our pro IFBB sponsored athletes but that's not possible: PharmacomStore.ws | Sponsored Athletes
( e.g.) Arnold Classic Winner 2016
You act like I somehow am implying I persevered through your products... I'm just stating that you sent potentially underdosed shit, acknowledged that it was possibly underdosed, then magically the samples your buddy Frank sent in tested well... Then, there was no further follow-up. I think I actually still have that anadrol, no reason to pin underdosed anadrol, maybe sending it in to Analyzer would be a good idea? Also, you never addressed the fact your winstrol sucked dick. I bought a few bottles from you, well, kinda... Actually you charged me for products that you actually didn't have in stock... Offered to swap them out for products like this GREAT winstrol that doesn't even flow through a 22g needle (totally acceptable Pcom standards, right?) or to wait 3 weeks. With all the reps and shills you have, you can't manage to keep an updated stock list? Or is this your way of conveniently off loading garbage product? Just offer one product for sale, take the customer's money, then say "Oops, that's not available anymore, you can choose from 2 inconvenient options now."? I Pm'd you saying both myself, and @ackrug , were having issues at the time. Maybe he can provide some more insight on your premier customer service.
Well...I've decided to try out other labs now. That post by Darius is partially to thank for that.
My question to @Darius PharmacomStore why can't you/pharmacom store's lab dose their product correctly?
There are guys brewing in their basements that can dose more accurately than you have it seems.
WTF is going on with this overpriced pretty packaging lab?
mands
The attitude is the most irritating factor. Second most irritating factor is the fact they claim they test all their products, and they're infallible. Well, obviously not... So, when lies begin, where do they end...?
@Darius PharmacomStore personally, I spent years in the customer service industry. The most intelligent man I have ever met, in terms of customer relations and assuring repeat business taught me one line, that forever stuck with me... Regardless of why the customer is mad, simply say "I apologize and understand the frustration, what can we do to make this right?" Oftentimes, they want nothing at all other than for you to acknowledge you F'd up, and will try and prevent that in the future. I never wanted free shit from you, or to scam you, you know that. I wanted what I paid for, and received less (in terms of underdosing). Underdosing an already hard-to-use product like injectable anadrol makes it unuseable (i'm not gonna pin 2ccs a day of just anadrol). Having winstrol, that you yourself claim you have issues with as well, that doesn't flow through a large gauge needle, is unacceptable for a lab of your size, too. You know this, I know this, we all really do. You use the negativity as a way to pimp your brand and to show your 'oh so special' IFBB pro athlete.
This is the kind of high quality response their reps have, to match their quality gear:
What newb isn't going to look at the packages and think wow, this must be really good stuff, this is a legit company etc.
You know I was actually pretty disappointed with that response. It was good and bad in some ways.
I think the point he was trying to make was that, they fucked up and after fucking up ran multiple tests to validate the product was dosed correctly.
I would like to know what they did to make the situation right after it did happen.
I don't think his English is perfect.
But the sad side is that came off pretty arrogant. lol
I think the point he was trying to make was that, they fucked up and after fucking up ran multiple tests to validate the product was dosed correctly.
I would like to know what they did to make the situation right after it did happen.
I don't think his English is perfect.
But the sad side is that came off pretty arrogant. lol
Yes it is the product inside that pretty box that counts and is the most important thing even noobs should know. If it turns out underdosed or bunk yes customers will be screaming.
JayWaWa
Member
They were solid. If you all will remember there were almost 0 complaints of underdosing until they began their ampule "sale". They were so cheap, we all bought them like crack. The fact is from that point out the gear became suspect in terms of effects for people then guys began saying that they were certain that they were underdosed. In fact i even had a 10ml vial of TA that i had left from a much earlier order. When i compared it to the TA sent to me in the amps by color...the new TA from the amps was considerably lighter and the effects or rather lack thereof are what made me even think to compare in the first place. I blasted 200mg TA from the "sale" amps in one day just to see if it would flare my nips/ducts up. Historically anything over 100mg/day or so of TA flares me up when im running even a moderate blast of test. 200mg TA from amps didnt even flare me up. Also i barely felt "trenny". Im guessing these amps are all underdosed by >50%. Thats my experience.
And on @Darius PharmacomStore 's post regarding the guys 10+ previous orders: I had several great vial orders from the previous year...before PCOM decided to change its biz model and scam people with bait and switch sales of underdosed gear. Just because someone was a happy customer before doesnt mean they cant be an unhappy one now. The happiness and continued purchases of the customer all depends on the quality of the product being offered by the UGL...and in this case its gone to shit as far as potency to label claim goes. Face the facts...PCOM either makes things right or their REP is fucked here and all the newbs will know not to order from them no matter how pretty the packaging or how many shills yell to the sky about how great PCOM gear is.
And on @Darius PharmacomStore 's post regarding the guys 10+ previous orders: I had several great vial orders from the previous year...before PCOM decided to change its biz model and scam people with bait and switch sales of underdosed gear. Just because someone was a happy customer before doesnt mean they cant be an unhappy one now. The happiness and continued purchases of the customer all depends on the quality of the product being offered by the UGL...and in this case its gone to shit as far as potency to label claim goes. Face the facts...PCOM either makes things right or their REP is fucked here and all the newbs will know not to order from them no matter how pretty the packaging or how many shills yell to the sky about how great PCOM gear is.
janoshik
Subscriber
TBH it's easy to test anadrol as underdosed, unless proper measures are taken during analysis...
Pharmacom guy, you got the raw data for that analysis?
Just out of personal interest wanna see 'em.
Pharmacom guy, you got the raw data for that analysis?
Just out of personal interest wanna see 'em.
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