Pharmacom/Basic sold bunk/underdosed products for all orders MAY and JUNE

Soooooo... you are going to get bloods for your new source(that is working good for you) but you wont get them for the last source(that didnt work worth a shit for you), hmm.........(on hold music)............

are you stupid? Why would I spend more money on something I already know is fake. You are nothing but a stupid fucking shill pretending to be a TRT patient. Nobody gets TRT with 460ng/dl of testosterone. It has been established @ page 27 that pharmacom is a scam. READ.READ.READ
 
are you stupid? Why would I spend more money on something I already know is fake. You are nothing but a stupid fucking shill pretending to be a TRT patient. Nobody gets TRT with 460ng/dl of testosterone. It has been established @ page 27 that pharmacom is a scam. READ.READ.READ

At what point did i say my level was 460ng/dl??? As usual your evidence will be shit. maybe you are the shill??
 
Guess that means your endo is illegitimate, lol, but yet when on TRT they shoot for numbers higher then 430ng/dl, so that in itself is contradicting.
430 would have been to low for a 23yr old especially if they had all the symptoms of low T. When they give the range of 300-1200. 300 is of a 70 year old man and 1200 being that of an 18 year old. Now those number will vary person to person obviously. Lucky for me mine was 170-240 at best. Ha
 
Ok doc, i know you didnt reference me, but its open for all to see, so you got my opinion, you seem like the type i first visited, old school, i fired that fucker, so glad i did. Doc works for me and should give a shit about not only numbers but also how you feel. It works alot better when the doc can relate to the issue. You only get one shot at life, why feel 80 when your 35?? Wish i wouldn't have put it off for 5+yrs. Thread has been derailed although probably a good thing but still arguing about stupid shit. The one thing i understand for sure is how i was feeling before trt.

When did I say symptoms shouldn't be accounted for and numbers are the only important thing to consider? I'm happy you feel better than before but that doesn't change the facts I was talking about in my other post.
 
When did I say symptoms shouldn't be accounted for and numbers are the only important thing to consider? I'm happy you feel better than before but that doesn't change the facts I was talking about in my other post.

You are as crazy as a football bat. You said, "No legitamate endo should be prescribing TRT for someone who has levels of 430ng/dl", how is that statement not based soley on test numbers. Because you explicitly left out age, race, freeT, other symtoms, honestly i dont give a shit about your opinion because it dont make sense, not only that but anybody can use doc for a username. If you are so concerned about T levels, maybe you should talk at the fellas running 2000+ng/dl and using TRT. Fuck you very much!
 
Haha I need to calm down? Looks like you're in the throes of a major tantrum little one.

Btw, if "any idiot can find a source on their own", what does that make you for asking for one?

Like I said before, no one is going to spoon feed you like Mommy does when you're in your high chair, so don't spill your cereal on your phone and read like everyone else does.

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Buddy are you confused? When did I ask for a source? I'm not asking for anything except advice and personal opinions I'm not coming on the thread asking for places where I can purchase steroids I'm not asking people to tell me suppliers names or where to go to get them I'm asking a question regarding a source I already found on my own because of the fact this thread is about that particular source I'm looking into the title of the thread is about the source being bunk and I'm asking if anyone's had personal experience because people are back and fourth you got people on this thread swearing it's good and others saying it's not isn't this what the forums is for? I'm not trying to fight with you or exploit the community I joined so I could gain info and help others with their questions Not for sources I already introduced myself in the new section and have intentions of being apart of the community I'm just not getting why your attacking me I didn't join this forum just for a source nor did I to fight with you
 
You are as crazy as a football bat. You said, "No legitamate endo should be prescribing TRT for someone who has levels of 430ng/dl", how is that statement not based soley on test numbers. Because you explicitly left out age, race, freeT, other symtoms, honestly i dont give a shit about your opinion because it dont make sense, not only that but anybody can use doc for a username. If you are so concerned about T levels, maybe you should talk at the fellas running 2000+ng/dl and using TRT. Fuck you very much!

Maybe I'm crazy but you're the one clueless about TRT and its indications lol. I wouldn't worry, you're not the only one. When you begin to understand things better you'll realize the straw man you laid out but until then, read, read, read.

Doc is a nickname. I never claimed to be a medical doctor and I've posted that many times.
 
So he's of the same ilk as the low T clinics who will prescribe TT to anyone with a checkbook or debit card. There are many professionals like that out there who do disservice.
No he's not like that. I don't think your understanding what I'm saying.

300ng/dl is the Testosterone level of a 70yo man. Is that okay for me? No. What about 330? 430? No. So my doctor's able to justify prescribing the drug based his knowledge which includes being involved in clinical studies with Testosterone and other hormones. If I'm at 430ng and I every symptom of low T then why wouldn't he prescribe it? With Testosterone there's no set limit on "low T" or even "high T levels" cause everyone is different. There's no set numbers.
 
Doc is a nickname. I never claimed to be a medical doctor and I've posted that many times.
Shit thats the part i should have read, read, read, it explains everything i need to know about your opinion on the matter. Surely you knew using doc on your user name would have people making that assumption.
 
No he's not like that. I don't think your understanding what I'm saying.

I do understand what you're saying.

[uore]300ng/dl is the Testosterone level of a 70yo man. Is that okay for me? No. What about 330? 430?[/quote]

You don't understand how reference ranges work as shown here.

No. So my doctor's able to justify prescribing the drug based his knowledge which includes being involved in clinical studies with Testosterone and other hormones. If I'm at 430ng and I every symptom of low T then why wouldn't he prescribe it? With Testosterone there's no set limit on "low T" or even "high T levels" cause everyone is different. There's no set numbers.

Yes there are pretty well defined limits for high and low, they're called reference ranges.

Bc the symptoms of low T are also the symptoms of many other issues as well.
 
I do understand what you're saying.

[uore]300ng/dl is the Testosterone level of a 70yo man. Is that okay for me? No. What about 330? 430?

You don't understand how reference ranges work as shown here.



Yes there are pretty well defined limits for high and low, they're called reference ranges.

Bc the symptoms of low T are also the symptoms of many other issues as well.[/QUOTE]
That is very true. I will agree with that. And I know things like depression and a lack of sleep will influence Testosterone levels temporarily.

Key word there is "reference". Ha
 

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