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[The Tone]

another thing I wanted to add is she also hasn't lost any weight. and I know what you guys are say its her diet. but no her diet has been done. You didn't clean small frequent meals. I would ask her to up her cardio but you guys know what it's like asking a woman to do anything case in point. Lol

 

[The Tone]

I hope all this works out for the best. would like if everything gets resolve for the positive. due to the fact that there would be more availability of labs. to choose from. And better for us just sayin

 

[kaizoku]

I have a bit different take on this as well. I think Frank truly believes everything he is saying. Frank's experience with Pharmacom goes back many years in Russia and he has seen the results of their products during that time both in himself and others and he has also seen the production facilities which are certainly impressive for a UGL.

The problem is Frank clearly is not high enough up in the food chain to know everything about the day to day process and as we all know just because someone put out a good product for years or even put out a good product yesterday doesn't mean the product is good today.

My guess is Pharmacom is the victim of poor raws. They are clearly NOT testing every batch of raws. I say this not because of the test results but because this company is clearly very good at marketing themselves.

What better way to back up your impressive production facility videos than to post the mass specs of each batch right on their website beside the product. They had already set the stage that they were different than other UGL's and the marketing minds would have known putting the mass specs for each batch right beside the product for sale would have put them over the top. Not only would sales have gone through the roof but they could have charged an even higher premium per vial which adds to the profit margin.

There are only two reasons why they wouldn't be posting mass specs in this manner. One being they aren't testing every batch of raws therefore they don't have the mass specs to post and two being they are doing the tests and some of the results aren't up to par so they can't post them.

My friend will be having bloods drawn next week on the Test P which he is running at 125mg EOD. Truthfully, I am going to post the results but it will be reluctantly as he got his from the first batch of US domestic which was a limited number of vials and I would be very surprised if the results didn't come back pretty good.

As much effort as Pharmacom put into expanding into the US I think it is a safe bet that they tested the few products that they sent over for their initial promo sale and all were likely good. Whatever these bloods show should not have any impact on any other test results posted here which both were purchased under different circumstances with the other Test P likely coming from a different batch.

While all of that may be true, it's no excuse for @Pharmacom Labs to respond the way he did.

A simple professional response like "hey guys, this is a surprise. I don't know what's going on but I'll find out and get back to you all as soon as I find out, please give me a couple days" and then actually following up on that would have been appropriate.

Instead, he went the other way, said this board was "dirty" (whatever that means), accused members of possibly faking blood results, claimed that there are "slipper cells" (again, whatever that means), said that the blood work results were too blurry to read (we could all read them), etc.

For someone who claims to have been in this game as long as he does, he's clearly shown he's a total amateur and has no idea how to run a business, even if it is an illegal one.

 

[Nitrobuste]

I hope all this works out for the best. would like if everything gets resolve for the positive. due to the fact that there would be more availability of labs. to choose from. And better for us just sayin

I have written many times that i tested the var at 100mg ed and felt nothing besides joint paint.

 

[Sampei]

Guys I believe here there is a mass hysteria atm!

I don't know about the rest of the compounds but I got 8 box of var from basicstero, 5 different ppl running them, and all reported an increase in strenght and leaning out especially on the abdomen. All the var here passed LM as well.

What do you expect from var? Have you ever run VAR? 100mg ed var? LOL
I have problem in believing sources 99% of the time, but I sure do have some problem to believe some of you guys.

The anavar I bought was on 3 different occasion, so unless they like me and send only to me good stuff, here there are ppl that first don't know what a compound should do and second probably never even run that compound, so they just think it's magic pills and make you shoot unicorns from the ass and be the hulk in a bunch of days.

I really find hard to believe the review of some ppl here. I'm not justifying frank behaviour or saying that pharmacom is g2g, far from it.

But sure as hell I feel that few review here are a bit... strange.

 

[LifeSTRONG]

another thing I wanted to add is she also hasn't lost any weight. and I know what you guys are say its her diet. but no her diet has been done. You didn't clean small frequent meals. I would ask her to up her cardio but you guys know what it's like asking a woman to do anything case in point. Lol

Which at such a low dose since of virilazation (sp) they do seem to have to run it a little longer. For I though didn't expect to feel the affects of 50mg a week of a mild compound as I have stronger compounds to mask it in my opinion. Just a slightly more synergy of fat burning effect.

 

[Nitrobuste]

Guys I believe here there is a mass hysteria atm!



What do you expect from var? Have you ever run VAR? 100mg ed var? LOL
I have problem in believing sources 99% of the time, but I sure do have some problem to believe some of you guys.

WTF ? You call me a liar ? Why should i lie about that ? Theres absolutely no reason. I bought a pack of the var and when i noticed nothing after a few days at 50mg, i upped the dosage to 100mg pre workout. Same with the dbol. I know my body. When i notice nothing after a week, i know i have bunk gear.

 

[Sampei]

WTF ? You call me a liar ? Why should i lie about that ? Theres absolutely no reason. I bought a pack of the var and when i noticed nothing after a few days at 50mg, i upped the dosage to 100mg pre workout. Same with the dbol. I know my body. When i notice nothing after a week, i know i have bunk gear.

You kidding me right?

FEW DAYS? It's fucking oxandrolone!!! It's not dbol/abol! It takes time to feel it, and to do it works. Do you take winny and expect to shred in few days?

Please give me a break.

I can find quite a few motives for lying. I'm not saying you are a liar, you took 100mg ed of var for few days and call it bunk. You are not a liar, just an idiot.

 

[rpbb]

You kidding me right?

FEW DAYS? It's fucking oxandrolone!!! It's not dbol/abol! It takes time to feel it, and to do it works. Do you take winny and expect to shred in few days?

Please give me a break.

I can find quite a few motives for lying. I'm not saying you are a liar, you took 100mg ed of var for few days and call it bunk. You are not a liar, just an idiot.

Your leaving out the part where he and other members are saying no effect from the dbol. Try and keep up

 

[rpbb]

Your leaving out the part where he and other members are saying no effect from the dbol. Try and keep up

And you will feel anavar in five to seven days at 50mg

 

[Sampei]

Your leaving out the part where he and other members are saying no effect from the dbol. Try and keep up

Am I talking about dbol? I was talking about him saying anavar is bunk after few days.

Yeah you feel it if maybe running alone with low test dose and IF YOU have run it before especially legit anavar. If it's your first time or you are running quite a lot of stuff together you will feel shit.

Plus he was running dbol and anavar together? Wtf?

I'm saying that few ppl here say quite strange things here and there. I'm not saying bloods were fake or pharmacom is the best of all.

But for damn sake we believe only bad review and not a good one? It's like if a guy says: shit is bunk then everyone agree. If one says shit is good. Everyone is like: shill.

We should hang on a bit more and wait for millard results and more blood. This doesn't mean we disregard the previous bad experience.

 

[Nitrobuste]

And you will feel anavar in five to seven days at 50mg

My Joints were hurting like hell, biceps training was impossible. I wrote it here in the forum and people told me that its most likely winstrol.

I never ran dbol and anavar together. Why do you say such bullshit ?

Its smells like SHILL

 

[Sampei]

My Joints were hurting like hell, biceps training was impossible. I wrote it here in the forum and people told me that its most likely winstrol.

I never ran dbol and anavar together. Why do you say such bullshit ?

Its smells like SHILL

Did you LM it?
Should you call bunk the anavar without no test?

Shill? Ahaha nice joke

You ran loads of compounds in a really short time I have to say.

 

[rpbb]

Did you LM it?
Should you call bunk the anavar without no test?

Shill? Ahaha nice joke

You ran loads of compounds in a really short time I have to say.

I gotta side with nitro on this one, you're ignoring the bass bloodwork, failed labmaxes, and failed mass specs. But by all means, keep buying the stuff

 

[bullets69]

Sampei writes like he's from eastern europe

 

[Sampei]

I gotta side with nitro on this one, you're ignoring the bass bloodwork, failed labmaxes, and failed mass specs. But by all means, keep buying the stuff

No man, I'm not ignoring anything. I'm saying that if few stuff failed doesn't mean everything is bunk, and if we just ride the bunk wagon without use logic and FACT we are just being no more smart then ppl that shill and cockride sources.

Fact are: one test p blood work was low. Primo failed labmax and mass spec. EQ failed lab max but was good on mass spec. Dbol passed lab max and anavar as well.

Ppl report I take always with a grain of salt. I'm on 700mg of test p and my libido is not raging. Is my test p bunk? Not at all. Just got the test back and it's quite good it's just my perception skewed, I'm normally with a very high libido so I don't see much changes on cycle or off cycle.

FACTS are what matters.

I swallowed few pills of anavar and I don't have lazar ABS it's not a fact. It's an opinion and a damn stupid one.

I'm not from East Europe, my native language is not English, that's all.

I will refrain to post on pharmacom threads. Will wait for mass spec of millard and for my own bloods. Take care

 

[Nitrobuste]

Where is the test ?

 

[kaizoku]

No man, I'm not ignoring anything. I'm saying that if few stuff failed doesn't mean everything is bunk, and if we just ride the bunk wagon without use logic and FACT we are just being no more smart then ppl that shill and cockride sources.

Fact are: one test p blood work was low. Primo failed labmax and mass spec. EQ failed lab max but was good on mass spec. Dbol passed lab max and anavar as well.

Ppl report I take always with a grain of salt. I'm on 700mg of test p and my libido is not raging. Is my test p bunk? Not at all. Just got the test back and it's quite good it's just my perception skewed, I'm normally with a very high libido so I don't see much changes on cycle or off cycle.

FACTS are what matters.

I swallowed few pills of anavar and I don't have lazar ABS it's not a fact. It's an opinion and a damn stupid one.

I'm not from East Europe, my native language is not English, that's all.

I will refrain to post on pharmacom threads. Will wait for mass spec of millard and for my own bloods. Take care

Fact: Test E blood work also came back low

 

[Sampei]

Where is the test ?

It's not pharmacom so I'm
Not gonna post it here.

 

[rpbb]

It's not pharmacom so I'm
Not gonna post it here.

That's just bazaar, you must be a shill