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Is mix 5 water or oil based
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Judging by the golden hue of the liquid and the comments i read on another forum, Mix 5 appears to be oil based.
RThoads
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it is oil
Not really soon. We do not expect restocking within a next month at least.
An update regarding warehouse 2.
As you can remember, parcels at W2 are packed in China first. We packed all packages. However, China has official holidays from 1st to 5th of May.
Also, there is another bigger obstacle with shipping. Some customers sending emails to us saying they already can receive goods from China without issues, so why we can not ship. Our question: what goods do you receive? Prohibited medical preparations or neutral stuff?
Due to the outbreak of coronavirus pandemic Chinese customs very thoroughly control all parcels for export and look in particular for medicine-related products.
Due to this shipping may take some time and delay for a week or two. We are doing our best to ensure safe delivery.
All victims of delays got store credits on their balance:
$50 for orders below $200
$100 for orders over $200
We will update you once some new info is available.
Warehouse 1 can ship still within Europe so far, but situation is getting better.We expect shipping will be available by the middle of May.
US domestic warehouse is functioning without issues.
As you can remember, parcels at W2 are packed in China first. We packed all packages. However, China has official holidays from 1st to 5th of May.
Also, there is another bigger obstacle with shipping. Some customers sending emails to us saying they already can receive goods from China without issues, so why we can not ship. Our question: what goods do you receive? Prohibited medical preparations or neutral stuff?
Due to the outbreak of coronavirus pandemic Chinese customs very thoroughly control all parcels for export and look in particular for medicine-related products.
Due to this shipping may take some time and delay for a week or two. We are doing our best to ensure safe delivery.
All victims of delays got store credits on their balance:
$50 for orders below $200
$100 for orders over $200
We will update you once some new info is available.
Warehouse 1 can ship still within Europe so far, but situation is getting better.We expect shipping will be available by the middle of May.
US domestic warehouse is functioning without issues.
Thank you for this answer @Pharmacom Labs but what about the stock of w1 please ? Do you know when you are going to receive all missing products ?
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RThoads
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And I would expect that may be an optomistic estimate considering restrictions on export/import on both ends of the situation.
basco
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My package from W1 has been delayed for a long ass time. I just logged in to my account and I don’t see these store credits that you speak of. I should have a credit of $100 according to your statement above.
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To the best of my understanding, credits should have been automaitcally given by Basicstero's system for those who placed orders from w2.
w1 credit will be given later once Basicstero's system status for those orders changes to 'shipped.'
IF your own order status has updated to 'shipped', but you still do not see a store credit, let me know so I may tell the source and also I'll try my best to help you get that resolved (if it is just a unique issue/error on your account, most likely you will need to use teh 'contact' us form to contact someone with access to accounts).
I know your question is how long is it good for after it’s opened. You will be told it depends on how it’s stored. Not sure why questions like this can’t be answered in the open and require contacting their specialist. I for one would like to see this specialist answer so please share.
I have a similar question. Looks like you guys are claiming that a vial is good for 4 years as that’s what your manufactured/expired date indicate. Shouldn’t I/we get a discount if we receive gear that is nearly 3 years old and close to expiring? I like most don’t want to shop every time I need a cycle or a few months worth of trt. I’d rather just make a large purchase that covers me for a few years but I can’t do that with you guys or it would expire before I ever got to some of it. When does it start degrading? How do you determine its good for 4 years? If I sent an unopened nearly 3 year old vial for testing would I be reimbursed/credited?
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RThoads
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the contents are good for a long time past any printed date:
Products are good way past the exp date
check out this article from Harvard Medical School:
Drug Expiration Dates — Do They Mean Anything? - Harvard Health
Drug Expiration Dates — Do They Mean Anything?
FDA study gets to the heart of expired medicine and safety
Updated: August 13, 2018
Published: November, 2003
This is a dilemma many people face in some way or another. A column published in Psychopharmacology Today offers some advice.
It turns out that the expiration date on a drug does stand for something, but probably not what you think it does. Since a law was passed in 1979, drug manufacturers are required to stamp an expiration date on their products. This is the date at which the manufacturer can still guarantee the full potency and safety of the drug.
Most of what is known about drug expiration dates comes from a study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date.
So the expiration date doesn't really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state if expired medicine is safe to take, even those that expired years ago. A rare exception to this may be tetracycline, but the report on this is controversial among researchers. It's true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military. Placing a medication in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years.
Is the expiration date a marketing ploy by drug manufacturers, to keep you restocking your medicine cabinet and their pockets regularly? You can look at it that way. Or you can also look at it this way: The expiration dates are very conservative to ensure you get everything you paid for. And, really, if a drug manufacturer had to do expiration-date testing for longer periods it would slow their ability to bring you new and improved formulations.
The next time you face the drug expiration date dilemma, consider what you've learned here. If the expiration date passed a few years ago and it's important that your drug is absolutely 100% effective, you might want to consider buying a new bottle. And if you have any questions about the safety or effectiveness of any drug, ask your pharmacist. He or she is a great resource when it comes to getting more information about your medications.
the contents are good for a long time past any printed date:
Products are good way past the exp date
check out this article from Harvard Medical School:
Drug Expiration Dates — Do They Mean Anything? - Harvard Health
That may be well and good for aspirin and even dry pills of the AAS variety, but what about vials with carrier oils and esters, both of which possibly degrade over time?
RThoads
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There is very little degradation on such products.
As mentioned, storage conditions are the key factor.
We can ruin a brand new vial quickly by leaving it in a hot car all summer. OR we can properly store products in a cool, dry, dark location, placed upright and sealed (un-used) for a long time (decade+).
I've heard both Dave Palumbo and Rich Piana talk in teh past about searching for and finding 'collectors' that had the old original durabolin amps (some reason they thought it was special -- my theory is all these guys thinking old gear was so amazing is likely because when they were younger they grew/responded more easily back then) and using them 15+ years after exp.
Some guy on boards, and again I think I heard Dave Palumbo state the same, have even used old GH they found hidden in there stash (stored properly) that was years old, and responded well.
Just people's own opinions -- not science.
But of course, if you would like to run an experiment you may simply take two (or three to test for storage conditions effeect) vials from the same batch and get chemical analysis data.
The first vial is tested in teh present time. then save the others to test years later. Store one properly and one poorly. test the stored products and compare results to teh original control (the fresh vial's data).
Personally, while it may be interesting, I am not sure it would have any pregmatic purpose for the customer. This is because any source can print any date on any product. Aany UGL can print any date -- how would one know if teh UGL is selling a product from 5 years ago or one year ago? this is with ANY source.
Regardless of where we shop, we face the same concern.
But no matter where we shop, even with honest sources who have teh best intentions, time passes, if we store products they may get old, and we can choosing to accept certain risks -- this is all completely indepednet of the source (just a fact of reality like with any product).
Actaully Basicstero having such a high quality proferssional industry level production and features as described in the innovations section on thier site, gives you the best chance of having a product that will last a very long time.
the contents are good for a long time past any printed date:
Products are good way past the exp date
check out this article from Harvard Medical School:
Drug Expiration Dates — Do They Mean Anything? - Harvard Health
Drug Expiration Dates — Do They Mean Anything?
FDA study gets to the heart of expired medicine and safety
Updated: August 13, 2018
Published: November, 2003
The big question is, do pills expire? With a splitting headache, you reach into your medicine cabinet for some aspirin only to find the stamped expiration date on the medicine bottle is more than a year out of date. So, does medicine expire? Do you take it or don't you? If you decide to take the aspirin, will it be a fatal mistake or will you simply continue to suffer from the headache?
This is a dilemma many people face in some way or another. A column published in Psychopharmacology Today offers some advice.
It turns out that the expiration date on a drug does stand for something, but probably not what you think it does. Since a law was passed in 1979, drug manufacturers are required to stamp an expiration date on their products. This is the date at which the manufacturer can still guarantee the full potency and safety of the drug.
Most of what is known about drug expiration dates comes from a study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date.
So the expiration date doesn't really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state if expired medicine is safe to take, even those that expired years ago. A rare exception to this may be tetracycline, but the report on this is controversial among researchers. It's true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military. Placing a medication in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years.
Is the expiration date a marketing ploy by drug manufacturers, to keep you restocking your medicine cabinet and their pockets regularly? You can look at it that way. Or you can also look at it this way: The expiration dates are very conservative to ensure you get everything you paid for. And, really, if a drug manufacturer had to do expiration-date testing for longer periods it would slow their ability to bring you new and improved formulations.
The next time you face the drug expiration date dilemma, consider what you've learned here. If the expiration date passed a few years ago and it's important that your drug is absolutely 100% effective, you might want to consider buying a new bottle. And if you have any questions about the safety or effectiveness of any drug, ask your pharmacist. He or she is a great resource when it comes to getting more information about your medications.
If you guys didn’t think your product expired you wouldn’t of put a expiration date on your product. Try again. It’s well know or at least well talked about that the vials break down after a few years. It’s also said that the oils may degrade and lose concentration. This is why I asked the questions I did. Curious to know the reasoning behind 4 years. Others say it’s much less than that but I’ve also read 5 years depending if it’s properly stored.
Pxpxp
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Forgive me for jumping in but if I were you, I would get a domestic credit for your order and take the loss.. at least you didn’t walk away with nothing. I took a break from basic for a while. I have made numerous orders from sources that are having absolutely no problems (hint...One used to be named Pcom).
I bet everyone on this forum knows how you feel and how made / crazy it can make you.
just my opinion.. but at least you won’t be without your goods + you get an extra $100 bucks.
hope it all works out bro.
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