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[planedriver]

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[planedriver]

Just as crappy is this means they could be putting out 20% underdosed stuff just as well. Just hasn't been caught.

 

[Bone Gristle]

Wouldn't exactly agree w that. I'd rather pin 600mg and it actually be 720 than pin 600 and it's actually 200.

Unless you were using it for trt.

Yeah I know. In a perfect world people would get it prescribed, but this is reality. A lot of people self prescribe trt and this would screw shit up.

 

[crossfitisgay]

Idk I just want their sust 250 and 300s amps and vials tested now

 

[planedriver]

Ideally that sample should be retested. That's a huge deviation.

 

[lucabratzi]

Unless you were using it for trt.

Yeah I know. In a perfect world people would get it prescribed, but this is reality. A lot of people self prescribe trt and this would screw shit up.

Didn't think of that. Good point

Like if u wanna have 2 drinks and stay under the limit to drive and the bartender gives doubles without u knowin.

 

[xcvcx]

I'm not going to let Pharmacom off the hook because other UGL are shit or Underdosed. Justifying their poor QC based on other's poor QC is a logical fallacy. Because everyone else sucks and they are better in relative terms, it's ok?

Pharmacom and frank have made their QC a major selling point, with lots of technical talk and slick videos and promises of testing on the manufacturing line. Ok, they made it an issue, they need to live up to all that talk.

I cruise on 200 mg/week. This dosing would put me at 240 mg a week, which is a borderline weak blast for me. I can live with it but I want to know what I am pinning so I can adjust my dosing, manage E2 and give my body a break between blasts.

@Pharmacom Labs please explain why the dosing of this product is over 20% off the label, particularly in view of the high tech manufacturing process and QC measures you claim are in place? What happened? You claimed technical issues before when the dosing of your products was off (something about Incorrect calcs that failed to account for the temperature dependence of oil volume, IIRC). Did you not correct that issue? Is this something else? Did the technician, Mr. Long Duck Dong have shaky hands when he was weighing out the raws for this batch? Please advise.

Thanks.

Not to be a prick but they are just NOT doing what they need to do. They are taking shortcuts somewhere - be it unpredictable raws or production equipment, etc.

There is no excuse. Just simple fact that the company portrays themselves one-way and based on last few anabolic lab results, it's who they are in reality.

 

[TheZMan]

Not to be a prick but they are just NOT doing what they need to do. They are taking shortcuts somewhere - be it unpredictable raws or production equipment, etc.

There is no excuse. Just simple fact that the company portrays themselves one-way and based on last few anabolic lab results, it's who they are in reality.

Very well said. Agree with a lot of guys too that overdosed could be bad too if someone really wants to do a self prescribed TRT regimen and draw his own labs.
Regardless, I hear the products are good nonetheless.

 

[Yeabuddyron]

Damn they raised the prices on the good stuff lol

 

[AKphysique]

I'd rather it be overdosed than underdosed

 

[Sir Fartsalot]

Wouldn't exactly agree w that. I'd rather pin 600mg and it actually be 720 than pin 600 and it's actually 200.

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[lucabratzi]

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Yes it is

 

[YelloBoi]

Has anyone tried the sibutros?

 

[cobra500]

Wanted to give props to Frank. Went through site, never once had contact with him. Had in a few weeks. If you follow the process on the site and are patient all you have to do it sit back and wait. In addition, if something does get messed up you know you'll be taken care of so no worries. Looking forward to March special when you return.

 

[Drewcifer]

Anybody know the batch number for the test e vials tested? Did I miss it?

 

[fofo]

Anybody know the batch number for the test e vials tested? Did I miss it?

If you go on anaboliclab.com, in the report it shows the lot/batch number as "604331".
Now I am not sure if batch numbers mean anything as anaboliclab tested the same product from the same batch in a different lab back in April 2015 and the result came back as 306mg.

 

[jJjburton]

If you go on anaboliclab.com, in the report it shows the lot/batch number as "604331".
Now I am not sure if batch numbers mean anything as anaboliclab tested the same product from the same batch in a different lab back in April 2015 and the result came back as 306mg.

This is what I am curios about. Does that mean ALL vials that have that number have that dosage?

 

[fofo]

This is what I am curios about. Does that mean ALL vials that have that number have that dosage?

Think we will have to wait for Frank to chime in as he is a company employee and should be able to get some answers.

 

[jJjburton]

These are products that you buy with some risk. Like many say around here it's not like you are buying from amazon.

 

[PHL Official]

Hey Frank, how would I go about getting the t3 tested, I definitely notice a big difference between yours and other companies I've used in the past @Pharmacom Labs

you just contact simec and says that you want to send them a sample. they give you an address where to send it. you send... we pay. that is all.

Has anyone ran the deca 600? Curious about pip on this one. Would love to see the Simec on this as well......

deca 600 had never much pip. its soft as well as bold 500. test e ans sust 500 can cause pips.

Are these prices effective immediately or in a few days?

immediately.

Does this mean for only new orders, how would that work if my payment is being checked, would it then ship after the 17th. Thanks

how do you tink, if your payment is being checked and postal service is not working... how cab we ship it before the end of holidays if nobody will accept this parcel from us...

so the results are in for e 300 at 363 mg . that shit is hot !frank seems too be a great guy and always willing to resolve issues rt away. I'm not sure about quality control as tight as he say it is .im in no way bashing you frank as you are a great asset to meso but its a little scary not knowing what ur pinning .

Pharmacom PHARMA Test E300 was determined to have actual content of 363 mg/ml testosterone enanthate.

Overdosed gear is as bad as underdosed gear.
Not too good sir!

I'm not going to let Pharmacom off the hook because other UGL are shit or Underdosed. Justifying their poor QC based on other's poor QC is a logical fallacy. Because everyone else sucks and they are better in relative terms, it's ok?

Pharmacom and frank have made their QC a major selling point, with lots of technical talk and slick videos and promises of testing on the manufacturing line. Ok, they made it an issue, they need to live up to all that talk.

I cruise on 200 mg/week. This dosing would put me at 240 mg a week, which is a borderline weak blast for me. I can live with it but I want to know what I am pinning so I can adjust my dosing, manage E2 and give my body a break between blasts.

@Pharmacom Labs please explain why the dosing of this product is over 20% off the label, particularly in view of the high tech manufacturing process and QC measures you claim are in place? What happened? You claimed technical issues before when the dosing of your products was off (something about Incorrect calcs that failed to account for the temperature dependence of oil volume, IIRC). Did you not correct that issue? Is this something else? Did the technician, Mr. Long Duck Dong have shaky hands when he was weighing out the raws for this batch? Please advise.

Thanks.

Just as crappy is this means they could be putting out 20% underdosed stuff just as well. Just hasn't been caught.

Not to be a prick but they are just NOT doing what they need to do. They are taking shortcuts somewhere - be it unpredictable raws or production equipment, etc.

There is no excuse. Just simple fact that the company portrays themselves one-way and based on last few anabolic lab results, it's who they are in reality.

guys one small question, if you visit a butcher's shop and buy say 3 pounds of chicken, come home and see that its 3,5 pounds, what you do?! Do you go back to the butchery, shout on the butcher and ask them to take back this extra 0.5 pounds of chicken back?!! Your reaction here implies that this is exactly what you do... LOL
You know what is the funniest thing ever. Simec has also deviations. It was already mentioned here, if i remember right up to 5-10%. And Simec and you have 20% range. our test e has been tested only 3 mg higher as this deviation. If Simec would show 3 mg lower it would be in a green range...
You all are sitting here and discussing thing like its so easy... however you all and evem me myself being not a technician or chemist have no full picture how is the production process working... Its not an easy process. It always has deviations. It is not possible to always keep exactly the stated dosage.
Have you seen the last result of Beyer Androtardyl? If a certified legal manufacturer. It shall have a full control of production as you all expect. And what it showed 236 mg instead of 250 stated. 14 mg underdosage. Its even more that 10%...and its only one sample tested. Do you think if you test another sample from same batch it will show exactly the same result... i am curious, let`s give it a try. will see, what it will show...
Yes deviations happen. Due to absolutely different factors. We do our best to keep them in a narrow range within 10% or even less.We are still improving our equipment. Otherwise we would not insist so hard on testing our gear in a lab. We offered to pay for 1000 samples. you could have more results to get a fuller picture...
Let`s keep this blah-blah-blah aside. You think that we do not test our gear internally? I will get you evidences. Now are local holidays here as you all know, but once we start our production again, we will film this testing process. You will see exactly our products, ecactly in our factory. real testing process. I wanted to aks our guys to film it a long time ago, but all the time something came up. We will finally do it. And if required even not once... And then everyone who is talking ship about pharmacom ans us not testing our products internally will have to shut up... sorry for my french. I promise i will publish this video in a while.

@Sir Fartsalot where do you find t3 on their site ?

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it fat loss section. i admit that this t3 can have higher deviations in dosages because this is a first runner. this is the first batch we ever produced. that is why we set a low price for it.