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[Dw725]

Couldn't the amount of testosterone the individual has before stating the cycle affect how much their levels will be at? For instance one guys levels are at 300 (low) starts a cycle and bumps too 1800. Other guy is at 800 and 6 weeks into cycle bumps too 2800. I'm not an expert with blood work, so you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel has long as the number is dramatically higher then what your natural T was at, you're good.

No, once you start injecting exogenous hormone your natural levels have no bearing on how high your levels will be, as after about 4 weeks your natural production is shut down anyways. The biggest factors that affect what levels you get after a blood draw are dosing protocol, and when the blood was drawn in relation to last injection. Everyone may metabolize the test at a slightly different rate but the prior two factors have a much more pronounced effect on what levels bloodwork shows from.what I've observed. Most will agree peak levels occur between 36-48 hours after injection and you should be between 6x-10x the amount last injected, for long estered gear that is.

 

[ironwarrior]

screenshot it and load it as an image

That's what I did and usually do, but it keeps giving me an error message, never seen it before, I'm going to try another way.

 

[ironwarrior]

After you get a way to post the bloodwork, make sure to write Meso-rx and the days date on it and post it in the testing thread. You will get much better replies and see what everyone thinks of that number. Someone posted a similar test result from Pcom gear and some thought it was ok, others thought not so much. I think a number should be higher if everything was done correct leading up to and during the test. Don't forget to black out your personal info on the paper work.

Ok, I'm going to Try that, still can't get my cropped screenshots to load.

 

[ironwarrior]

How long ago was last pin before test?

I used the same exact schedule I did with the GP test which I was using less and scored 2800. I'love try and link to that blood work. It was last pin on Wednesday evening, blood pulled on sat am.

 

[ironwarrior]

Ok, here it is, got it up, Test E 300, 650mg a week, deca 300, 600 a week.
I scored 2800 on GP test E using 550 a week using the same blood work schedule.

 

[AnTabolic73]

Ok, here it is, got it up, Test E 300, 650mg a week, deca 300, 600 a week.
I scored 2800 on GP test E using 550 a week using the same blood work schedule.

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they can't even give you the 10x last pin response they usually do, it's still less than that.

 

[Geterdun]

Ok, here it is, got it up, Test E 300, 650mg a week, deca 300, 600 a week.
I scored 2800 on GP test E using 550 a week using the same blood work schedule.

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If there was Test being injected previous to injecting the current gear than yes, it would change the value. You should always get pre cycle blood work for health reasons tho. Then again at 5-6 weeks in and 3-4 weeks after PCT.

Like I said a lot depends on your injection timing. You pinned on Wednesday PM and tested Saturday AM, so your not in the peak 36-48 hour window. I'm not so sure it would drop from 2800 to your current number, but without testing in the 36-48 hour window, you just don't know. I would run it, see how you feel and Test again in a few weeks, but at the correct time. You could metabolize blood gear quickly.

@Docd187123 my friend, can you give us some of your insight to your belief on this. I know your explanation last time was spot on and would appreciate your input again brother.

 

[Geterdun]

OP, don't forget to post this in the blood testing thread. Your much more likely to get more replies there as a lot of members don't even post in the underground.

 

[Drols]

No, once you start injecting exogenous hormone your natural levels have no bearing on how high your levels will be, as after about 4 weeks your natural production is shut down anyways. The biggest factors that affect what levels you get after a blood draw are dosing protocol, and when the blood was drawn in relation to last injection. Everyone may metabolize the test at a slightly different rate but the prior two factors have a much more pronounced effect on what levels bloodwork shows from.what I've observed. Most will agree peak levels occur between 36-48 hours after injection and you should be between 6x-10x the amount last injected, for long estered gear that is.

Oh ok, thanks for the info!

 

[ironwarrior]

If there was Test being injected previous to injecting the current gear than yes, it would change the value. You should always get pre cycle blood work for health reasons tho. Then again at 5-6 weeks in and 3-4 weeks after PCT.

Like I said a lot depends on your injection timing. You pinned on Wednesday PM and tested Saturday AM, so your not in the peak 36-48 hour window. I'm not so sure it would drop from 2800 to your current number, but without testing in the 36-48 hour window, you just don't know. I would run it, see how you feel and Test again in a few weeks, but at the correct time. You could metabolize blood gear quickly.

@Docd187123 my friend, can you give us some of your insight to your belief on this. I know your explanation last time was spot on and would appreciate your input again brother.

Yes, it wasn't the exact window, that's just how my schedule works, Saturday is when I can go usually, but it was the exact same timing I used on the GP test using 550 week at 2800 level. Last pin wed evening, blood pull sat at 11a. I got that bloodwork 5 weeks in. I went 10 weeks with the GP then switched to pcom test e300 at that 10 week mark. Fast forward 6 weeks, and this was my 6 week pcom bloodwork using the same wed evening last pin, and sat. Blood pull.

 

[ironwarrior]

OP, don't forget to post this in the blood testing thread. Your much more likely to get more replies there as a lot of members don't even post in the underground.

Thanks, it's up

 

[cdusgk91]

@ironwarrior thank you for posting these sir

 

[Just Fish]

You were taking 650mg teste and 600mg deca then only got 1898 on blood test?
What to you mean by gp test?

 

[CdnGuy]

You were taking 650mg teste and 600mg deca then only got 1898 on blood test?
What to you mean by gp test?

He means he scored higher on Naps underground brand of gear.

 

[Just Fish]

Thanks cdnguy I tried to pm you but couldn't

 

[ironwarrior]

That's right, I scored a whole thousand higher using LESS Mg's of GP from naps

 

[Just Fish]

That's fucked up glad I've been hesitant to order. I guess the research continues lol. Thanks for the bloods very helpful.

 

[Mrfreeza1]

That's crazy . Members here giving me shit cause I took 1200mg a weeks test . Which I was more implying shit is underdosed .

 

[DoUEvenCardio]

Thanks, it's up

Hey bud, appreciate you posting labs. You mind posting the batch #'s and expiration date on that test bottle.

 

[HunterHowl]

Does anyone get pip from test prop? I am currently on 50/50 test prop and tren ace and it hurts like hell.