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My buddy is four weeks in a tren a cycle.
200 test c a week and 700 tren a week.
He is not impressed with this batch.

Which is odd because these guys put out a good product I hear. Only side is bad insomnia. Strengh is same, size same.

We arnt sure what to think.
 
My buddy is four weeks in a tren a cycle.
200 test c a week and 700 tren a week.
He is not impressed with this batch.

Which is odd because these guys put out a good product I hear. Only side is bad insomnia. Strengh is same, size same.

We arnt sure what to think.
That is a shit ton of tren. Why do people think they need so much to get good results. I got good results off of just 400mg a week. Strength was insane and so was aggression. TBH I'm not in favor of the whole low test high tren bullshit. It's stupid. Test is the base of everything and should be ran much higher then a trt dose. That's probably why his results are poor as hell. Think about it why would you want very little testosterone in the body but high amounts of an androgen. Seems retarded to me. Some will argue you this but I've never ever ran test lower then tren and have always gotten awesome results.
 
My buddy is four weeks in a tren a cycle.
200 test c a week and 700 tren a week.
He is not impressed with this batch.

Which is odd because these guys put out a good product I hear. Only side is bad insomnia. Strengh is same, size same.

We arnt sure what to think.
I ran a Lot of tren once. More then my test and all I got was basically very side effect with no strength gains. It was the worst cycle ever side effect wise. I bumped my test high and kept my tren moderate and boom, amazing results. Coulda just been my body but he could be reacting the same why. I highly doubt the tren is fake because even at 700 he should be seeing crazy results or crazy side effects lol
 
@Drols how much test would you run with 400 tren E/ week
750 because that's what i'm up to on my cycle currently for my contest prep. 500 should be good if you've never gone higher or its your first time cycling etc. I've noticed Tren E seems to hit harder maybe because of the long build up in the system though. I don't have much experience with it as I do with Ace. I took Tren E once and the sides were pretty bad but the results were good. With Ace I don't get very many side effects. Only the ones I prefer which is aggression as it helps w/ training when dieting.
 
750 because that's what i'm up to on my cycle currently for my contest prep. 500 should be good if you've never gone higher or its your first time cycling etc. I've noticed Tren E seems to hit harder maybe because of the long build up in the system though. I don't have much experience with it as I do with Ace. I took Tren E once and the sides were pretty bad but the results were good. With Ace I don't get very many side effects. Only the ones I prefer which is aggression as it helps w/ training when dieting.

Thanks for the feedback. My last test E cycle was 600/ week. I was thinking of sticking with the same test dose with the 400/week of the tren E. I already have the gear ready so I'm just going to have to try the tren E and hope the sides don't get too bad
 
Thanks for the feedback. My last test E cycle was 600/ week. I was thinking of sticking with the same test dose with the 400/week of the tren E. I already have the gear ready so I'm just going to have to try the tren E and hope the sides don't get too bad
That should be perfect at those doses. The sides shouldn't be too bad but everyone is different. In my opinion the sides are worse the lower the test is, but others will say differently lol.
 
I've always ran tren higher than test and all my buddies who compete do the same. And most who compete drop the test and just run mast and tren last few weeks. 250 a week test. Always been told that and done that. You want the tren to work more than the test not the other way around. Again this is coming from guys who have been lifting 20 plus years and compete at national level. Just my little 2 cents. My last show it was 400 a week tren 400 mast and 250 test then went to up to 700 tren 700 mast last 3 weeks and dropped the test and of course the test is prop not e or c you don't hold water.
 
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I've always ran tren higher than test and all my buddies who compete do the same. And most who compete drop the test and just run mast and tren last few weeks. 250 a week test. Always been told that and done that. You want the tren to work more than the test not the other way around. Again this is coming from guys who have been lifting 20 plus years and compete at national level. Just my little 2 cents. My last show it was 400 a week tren 400 mast and 250 test then went to up to 700 tren 700 mast last 3 weeks and dropped the test
You have a log here? If not you should start one
 
I've always ran tren higher than test and all my buddies who compete do the same. And most who compete drop the test and just run mast and tren last few weeks. 250 a week test. Always been told that and done that. You want the tren to work more than the test not the other way around. Again this is coming from guys who have been lifting 20 plus years and compete at national level. Just my little 2 cents. My last show it was 400 a week tren 400 mast and 250 test then went to up to 700 tren 700 mast last 3 weeks and dropped the test
You don't run any test at all at the end?
 
Nope. Just going by what I've been told and done. If you still want to fuck the last few weeks you aren't lean enough and trust me I thought that was a joke but once you get that shredded and no carbs last thing you tbink of is sex and I never thought I wouldnt want sex but once As soon as the show was over it was test and carbs and I was ready to go again lol. Also I blast and cruise. So a few days before the show I cut out all drugs but var or winny and then the day after the show I go back to 250 a week test for about 8-10 before I blast again. Just what I've done. Other big guys I know after the show will blast right away again not even cruise. The guy who trained me for my last show is about 5"7 250 off season and competes about 210. He is never on less than 1000 a week ever. He's also 50 but his cycles are insane amounts
 
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