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[SouthernFryed]

I wish that, if you are going to join in my aspect of the discussion, please read all of my comments carefully before replying so that what we add is informative and helpful.

I never said the gear gave me an infection. I said that the doctor told me that cellulitis could only be caused by bacteria, or more specifically "flora". I didn't say I believed that the doctor was correct, just that I wanted to take into consideration every factor so I could Understand what happened and why, and avoid it in the future so I could use the gear with minimal if any issue.

As far as understanding what exactly is behind the reaction, I've yet to get a definitive explanation. I get that something in it is irritating to the body, and more so to some than others, with dosage playing a big role in it. Pharmacom did reply reassuring the sterility of their product, which I never really doubted unless the product I received was counterfeit.

I already explained my reasons and methods of using the testE500. In hindsight I wish I had just stuck with the testC250 as it's worked fine with zero PIP. But it is what it is.

I would advise anyone who reads this in the future to not dose in the same spot until all swelling/soreness is entirely gone, and dilute with either a lower doses oil or filtered sterile GSO or similar substance.

If anyone can add helpful information concerning the actual cause of irritation I would appreciate it, but beyond that I'm putting this behind me now as the original reaction is almost 1/4 healed and I pinned lower on my right glute Sunday night mixing 1/4ml TestE500 with 1/4ml testc250 and have virtually no PIP which seems to confirm my belief that this all originated from using this new stuff and injecting in the same spot while it was still sore.

Also thanks to everyone who was supportive and gave helpful advice/Informantion.

 

[Steve84]

Telling people to dilute the E-500/Sus-500 isn't the correct thing for people to read.
If you read PCOM's website, it specifically says that everyone reacts different to high Conc Gear. To start out with a low dose and see how it affects you.

The gear is great, as i'm one that enjoys little PIP from it.
The advice to not inject on a swelled area or sore is a smart move.
But the thing to take from is everyone reacts different, don't shoot 1CC unless you are willing to live with the potential pain. I've even loaded a bit higher than 1CC on my first couple weeks without issues.
I always thought it was too smooth for the concentration.
If you are diluting the 500 Mix, why would you buy it, it doesn't make sense to dilute it. The 300 Sus or E is a great product as well. Just use that instead.

 

[Morefyah]

Telling people to dilute the E-500/Sus-500 isn't the correct thing for people to read.
If you read PCOM's website, it specifically says that everyone reacts different to high Conc Gear. To start out with a low dose and see how it affects you.

The gear is great, as i'm one that enjoys little PIP from it.
The advice to not inject on a swelled area or sore is a smart move.
But the thing to take from is everyone reacts different, don't shoot 1CC unless you are willing to live with the potential pain. I've even loaded a bit higher than 1CC on my first couple weeks without issues.
I always thought it was too smooth for the concentration.
If you are diluting the 500 Mix, why would you buy it, it doesn't make sense to dilute it. The 300 Sus or E is a great product as well. Just use that instead.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with diluting gear. Lol, your still getting the same dosage regardless. I've only had to do this a couple of times and it was with tren base and Tne, both had a nasty bite to them. I usually don't have issues with pip at all.
I recently finished a 20 week blast at 1100mg per 3ml syringe twice a week with no issues.
Bad technique and virgin muscle is usually more of the culprit then poorly brewed gear.

 

[SouthernFryed]

Telling people to dilute the E-500/Sus-500 isn't the correct thing for people to read.
If you read PCOM's website, it specifically says that everyone reacts different to high Conc Gear. To start out with a low dose and see how it affects you.

The gear is great, as i'm one that enjoys little PIP from it.
The advice to not inject on a swelled area or sore is a smart move.
But the thing to take from is everyone reacts different, don't shoot 1CC unless you are willing to live with the potential pain. I've even loaded a bit higher than 1CC on my first couple weeks without issues.
I always thought it was too smooth for the concentration.
If you are diluting the 500 Mix, why would you buy it, it doesn't make sense to dilute it. The 300 Sus or E is a great product as well. Just use that instead.

It's considerably cheaper to use 1/2ml testE500 compared to 1ml testC250 or testE300. I followed the recommendation of starting with only 1/2ml. I think the PIP would of been manageable if I had not put that last pin directly into the previous weeks spot.

To reiterate, I've been super pleased with PCOMs quality and service. My only worry was if the gear sent from domestic warehouse versus from China was susceptible to counterfeiting, as I figured that would be the only way for contamination.

 

[SouthernFryed]

It's considerably cheaper to use 1/2ml testE500 compared to 1ml testC250 or testE300. I followed the recommendation of starting with only 1/2ml. I think the PIP would of been manageable if I had not put that last pin directly into the previous weeks spot.

To reiterate, I've been super pleased with PCOMs quality and service. My only worry was if the gear sent from domestic warehouse versus from China was susceptible to counterfeiting, as I figured that would be the only way for contamination.

 

[SouthernFryed]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with diluting gear. Lol, your still getting the same dosage regardless. I've only had to do this a couple of times and it was with tren base and Tne, both had a nasty bite to them. I usually don't have issues with pip at all.
I recently finished a 20 week blast at 1100mg per 3ml syringe twice a week with no issues.
Bad technique and virgin muscle is usually more of the culprit then poorly brewed gear.

Also key to that is "Virgin muscle (for the new type of gear you are using)", as I have been pinning both Watson & Sun Pharma TestC100 and PCOM testC250 twice a week in my glutes since November with no issue at all.

 

[retpsd]

I'M NOT GOING TO SCREAM AND CURSE LIKE YOU, AND LIKE YOU SAID NOTHING IS "IMPOSSIBLE". BUT FOR THE MOST PART THEIR WHOLE PRODUCTION LINE IS COMPLETELY AUTOMATED BY MACHINES. THEIR GEAR ISN'T BEING HANDLED BY HUMAN HANDS EXCEPT MAYBE SHIPPING THEM OUT. ANYTIME HUMANS ARE INVOLVED IN ANY PROCESS, THE PROBABILITY OF MISTAKES GREATLY INCREASES LIKE CONTAMINATING A BATCH. WITH THAT SAID, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE GREATLY REDUCED ( ALBEIT NOT COMPLETELY RULED OUT ) ANY POSSIBILITY OF CONTAMINATION, ESPECIALLY WHEN COMPARED TO OTHER BATHTUB UGL'S.

YOUR RIGHT IN THEM SHILLING BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT GARNERS SUCH AN EXTREME RESPONSE

It's funny because you said "I'm not going to scream" then you typed your whole post in CAPS.
This ain't church, it's an uncensored forum about underground drugs....people cuss here.
People lie here too, that's what he did and he got called out for it.
If we take his word that pcom takes contamination very seriously, then he should also take seriously how he represents pcom when he says stupid shit about what they consider a very serious subject.
What he said was extremely stupid, it elicited an extreme response.
If that response offended you, then now you know how others members here felt when they spoke out about your choice of a user name here.

 

[retpsd]

Fire in the hole.
And yes, sorry, I said incorrect phrase. I just wanted to say that our process is fully automatic and sterile. And yes, nothing is impossible in the our world, what is the chance to face with pink elephant on the way to work ? ~0,000000000001%, but still. And in my "incorrect" phrase I mean that in the our process we have taken maximum possible measures to protect the product. So, chance to get some bacterias/fungus/pink elephants into the product tends ot zero, but still.
Sorry again

Look, fully automating production doesn't reduce the possibility of bacteria contamination to absolute zero.
And everything is sterile, until it isn't.
Can automation help to reduce the chance of bacteria contamination, yeah, common sense would lead us to believe it should be better than a bunch of booger pickers handling your raw materials and sterile containers.....
But product automation can also be the cause of bacteria contamination, and when it is, guess what else is automated...the distribution of bacteria.
As far as I know, pcom has a good reputation for not shipping dirty gear, but they shouldn't let you talk about it because you're not very good at it.
Stick to tacking up your boss' flyers and sales specials and communicating with customers about the status of inventory and shipping concerns.
You'll catch less heat if you stay on topics you know something about and can communicate honestly and accurately about.....without needing to go into bullshit "pink elephant" scenarios.

 

[WifeBeater]

It's funny because you said "I'm not going to scream" then you typed your whole post in CAPS.
This ain't church, it's an uncensored forum about underground drugs....people cuss here.
People lie here too, that's what he did and he got called out for it.
If we take his word that pcom takes contamination very seriously, then he should also take seriously how he represents pcom when he says stupid shit about what they consider a very serious subject.
What he said was extremely stupid, it elicited an extreme response.
If that response offended you, then now you know how others members here felt when they spoke out about your choice of a user name here.

BUTTONS STUCK AT WORK. CAN'T HELP IT

 

[WifeBeater]

I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. MESO CAN BE SO WHINY SOMETIMES...

 

[Southeastbeast1]

With all this talk of PIP and issues with Test E 500 I have to ask this

How different is pinning 250 mg/ml compared to 250 mg/0.5 ml? In terms of PIP

Obviously the half ml shot is still highly concentrated per ml but now with less volume.

Are those of you who have trouble with the 500 mg/ml splitting it into two half ml shots or taking the full ml in a single shot (which would obviously be more test than a 250 mg/ml shot)?

 

[Southeastbeast1]

Only ask because I was considering buying 500mg/ml and splitting it to cut down on volume of each individual injections

 

[AnabolicsDave]

What's up guys. Quick question. I ordered from pharmacom over 4 months ago and it still has not come in. When I check the tracking number it says "Origin Post is Preparing Shipment." Anyone know how to fix this situation?

 

[Steve84]

With all this talk of PIP and issues with Test E 500 I have to ask this

How different is pinning 250 mg/ml compared to 250 mg/0.5 ml? In terms of PIP

Obviously the half ml shot is still highly concentrated per ml but now with less volume.

Are those of you who have trouble with the 500 mg/ml splitting it into two half ml shots or taking the full ml in a single shot (which would obviously be more test than a 250 mg/ml shot)?

I'm not an expert but I think it comes down to how it's made. From the information I retained, the 500 gear contains EO, which some people can have reactions to upon injection.
So cutting it reduces the EO purity per say.
But I believe the 300 one's aren't made with EO.
From what i understood on past posts...

 

[Heavy Iron]

What's up guys. Quick question. I ordered from pharmacom over 4 months ago and it still has not come in. When I check the tracking number it says "Origin Post is Preparing Shipment." Anyone know how to fix this situation?

you have waited 4 months before you said anything....? uhhh.

 

[Southeastbeast1]

I'm not an expert but I think it comes down to how it's made. From the information I retained, the 500 gear contains EO, which some people can have reactions to upon injection.
So cutting it reduces the EO purity per say.
But I believe the 300 one's aren't made with EO.
From what i understood on past posts...

Ah I see now. Thank you.

 

[JayWaWa]

I need to get these amps to analyzer...should be a bomb on pcom when the results come back. Ive always been a pcom supporter, as many of my previous posts will demonstrate. However I know TA at 100mg/ml...and these amps are certainly significantly underdosed. Compared to previous vials from pcom and the elite TA...these amps are garbage. Ill have amps of primo TA and test PH tested too as they were all ordered at the same time during their big 50% off amps sale. 50% off for 50% of the gear maybe? Labs wont lie.

 

[Canecat5]

With all this talk of PIP and issues with Test E 500 I have to ask this

How different is pinning 250 mg/ml compared to 250 mg/0.5 ml? In terms of PIP

Obviously the half ml shot is still highly concentrated per ml but now with less volume.

Are those of you who have trouble with the 500 mg/ml splitting it into two half ml shots or taking the full ml in a single shot (which would obviously be more test than a 250 mg/ml shot)?

My experience, and I stress mine alone, is reducing volume only slightly reduced PIP. I have never used 250 but have used the 300. I have, to this point, never had a problem with PIP on 300 even at 1.5 mil but .05 mil of 500 puts a golf ball on my ass almost without fail.

Again it is my body, I believe, seeing the 500 as something it needs to isolate and attack. I don't think it is a gear issue as I have shot 1 ml 600 decca many times with no problems. Just something in the 500 that my body does not like. We are all different though, so have to try for yourself.

 

[MuscleJapan]

I never recieved a tracking number from the us domestic site. It's been a couple days so I'm a bit worried that my order got lost or something.

 

[SouthernFryed]

I never recieved a tracking number from the us domestic site. It's been a couple days so I'm a bit worried that my order got lost or something.

Did you get confirmation email of funds received? Tracking usually comes after it's already shipped. My last order arrived maybe 3 days after payment received email, and a day after tracking email.