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[Masse]

View attachment 70620 View attachment 70621 View attachment 70622 View attachment 70623 View attachment 70624 Does anyone have information on a point of contact for the US west coast distribution? I ordered 2 vials of test E 500 and after 3 pins, 1st & 3rd in left glute, I have cellulitis pretty bad there and less so in the right glute. I had read that people experienced PIP so I chalked it up to that until after the 3rd pin; that's when it got red, swollen and hard.
I'm on trt so I told the doctor that it was from that and he said cellulitis is bacterial. I've been doing IM in my glutes twice a week since November and never had PIP or any redness/soreness. I was using test C 250/.5ml injections and it was fine. Went with .5ml on the Test E 500 and this happened.
Any advice that's helpful would be appreciated. I went with the test E hoping that it would last longer since I wanted to cycle @ 500mg a week then go back to 250mg.
I ordered the test C from the east coast. Other than expirations being different, the only difference I can tell is the transition from the neck to the body off the bottle has a different contour. Both times I ordered I used the website.
I don't know. I'm tired and it's late and I have to work tomorrow.
I take it I shouldn't use the gear, even diluting it? The other vial is probably the same? Anyone think it's bacterial contamination? Anyway to test? I'm more than willing to return the product if I can get something that won't cause this to happen.
Really sucks... didn't want to be the guy posting something like this. I always practice sterile procedures and only pin after showering, using luer lock 20 gauge to draw and 23 to pin. Never let the syringe be exposed or touch anything. Use 91% alcohol and scrub vial top letting it dry first and scrub skin well. Never had a problem until this happened.

Why are using 500mg/ml gear? Do you have to inject soo much ml's that you need higher dosed gear?

It's almost "normal" to get infection with such high concentreaded gear. That hasn't to do something with the lab..

 

[Swim]

Why are using 500mg/ml gear? Do you have to inject soo much ml's that you need higher dosed gear?

It's almost "normal" to get infection with such high concentreaded gear. That hasn't to do something with the lab..

It's not normal to get infection with high concentrations.. that's ridiculous. what causes infections is bacteria not the amount of hormone. c'mon now.

 

[Masse]

It's not normal to get infection with high concentrations.. that's ridiculous. what causes infections is bacteria not the amount of hormone. c'mon now.

That's not because of the amount of hormone, thats because of the amount of alcohol in there!

For high concentrated gear you need more BA..

 

[Swim]

That's not because of the amount of hormone, thats because of the amount of alcohol in there!

For high concentrated gear you need more BA..

what? alcohol causes infections? ok....


@Sworder?

 

[Masse]

what? alcohol causes infections? ok....


@Sworder?

There is something called "sterile abscess". Google it

Too much alcohol "burns" this are, the body reacts like if he got an infection.

 

[Swim]

There is something called "sterile abscess". Google it

Too much alcohol "burns" this are, the body reacts like if he got an infection.

sterile abscesses are not infectious hence the word sterile.

 

[Throwback]

Dbol update? Strength gains/weight gains??

Questionable at this point ...but the last week ive only lifted twice.
Dbol usually elevates my bp.
At 40mg for 2 weeks and it came in 126 over 72
With dbol i should have been like 150 over high 80s.
But again...my routine has been all fucked up over the past 10 days.
Now the last dbol pack with the round white pills kicked ass.

 

[Steve84]

I've been using the high concentration Test for about 2 years. No issues what so ever...
Been using PCOM for that time on other products, no issues.

Customer Service is great, shipments are good... I have nothing but a dirty brown nose from this supplier. And I like it!

 

[retpsd]

Sure your own self injecting techniques were not the problem?.. Some people have dirty bacteria skin and dont prep properly, in some cases the actual housing they live in is more of a threat then the stuff they are trying to inject... So many things to rule out but its always the gear...

What dafuaq are you talking about?
Did you read what I posted.....I didn't say anything about getting an infection from pcom gear...I actually said the opposite.
My issue is with @Pharmacom Helper boldfaced shilling like he's talking to retards "in our production conditions it's simply impossible have any bacteria in the products."

 

[fatniggaleeroy]

that 500 mg test made my quad swell up to twice the size and i could barely walk. i had to dilute it w/ gso. i had no issues w/ the 600mg deca or 500mg eq.

 

[manafest]

What dafuaq are you talking about?
Did you read what I posted.....I didn't say anything about getting an infection from pcom gear...I actually said the opposite.
My issue is with @Pharmacom Helper boldfaced shilling like he's talking to retards "in our production conditions it's simply impossible have any bacteria in the products."

You are correct ..i had you mixed up with the one who was complaining about the t500...i was just reading thru all the bs and didnt pay attention to names.. to that person to just say they got and infection from gear just like many others is a hell of a bold thing to do since there are so many other things like skin bacteria and the housing where they are sticking themselves could be the problem...some local dumps are cleaner then some people and their houses...But its always the Gear first right?

 

[WifeBeater]

Bull, motherfucking shit @Pharmacom Helper!
Had you said "it's not probable, or highly unlikely" I wouldn't flame on you, but you didn't, so fuck you.
You said "it's simply "impossible" and that is a bold-faced, motherfucking, straight-up, dick-sucking, shilling-ass, lie!
Listen, I've used pcom products in the past (where or who I got them from isn't relevant) without infection.
You, @Pharmacom Helper ain't helping! You insult the knowledge of whats left of the "Harm Prevention" MESO community when you make a stupid-ass, motherfucking, shilling-ass statement like "it's simply "impossible" for bacteria to exist, and or propagate in the world of Pharmacom!
Bull, motherfucking shit!!
Am I wrong?

I'M NOT GOING TO SCREAM AND CURSE LIKE YOU, AND LIKE YOU SAID NOTHING IS "IMPOSSIBLE". BUT FOR THE MOST PART THEIR WHOLE PRODUCTION LINE IS COMPLETELY AUTOMATED BY MACHINES. THEIR GEAR ISN'T BEING HANDLED BY HUMAN HANDS EXCEPT MAYBE SHIPPING THEM OUT. ANYTIME HUMANS ARE INVOLVED IN ANY PROCESS, THE PROBABILITY OF MISTAKES GREATLY INCREASES LIKE CONTAMINATING A BATCH. WITH THAT SAID, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE GREATLY REDUCED ( ALBEIT NOT COMPLETELY RULED OUT ) ANY POSSIBILITY OF CONTAMINATION, ESPECIALLY WHEN COMPARED TO OTHER BATHTUB UGL'S.

YOUR RIGHT IN THEM SHILLING BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT GARNERS SUCH AN EXTREME RESPONSE

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

Bull, motherfucking shit @Pharmacom Helper!
Had you said "it's not probable, or highly unlikely" I wouldn't flame on you, but you didn't, so fuck you.
You said "it's simply "impossible" and that is a bold-faced, motherfucking, straight-up, dick-sucking, shilling-ass, lie!
Listen, I've used pcom products in the past (where or who I got them from isn't relevant) without infection.
You, @Pharmacom Helper ain't helping! You insult the knowledge of whats left of the "Harm Prevention" MESO community when you make a stupid-ass, motherfucking, shilling-ass statement like "it's simply "impossible" for bacteria to exist, and or propagate in the world of Pharmacom!
Bull, motherfucking shit!!
Am I wrong?

Fire in the hole.
And yes, sorry, I said incorrect phrase. I just wanted to say that our process is fully automatic and sterile. And yes, nothing is impossible in the our world, what is the chance to face with pink elephant on the way to work ? ~0,000000000001%, but still. And in my "incorrect" phrase I mean that in the our process we have taken maximum possible measures to protect the product. So, chance to get some bacterias/fungus/pink elephants into the product tends ot zero, but still.
Sorry again

 

[Trapmonster]

Fire in the hole.
And yes, sorry, I said incorrect phrase. I just wanted to say that our process is fully automatic and sterile. And yes, nothing is impossible in the our world, what is the chance to face with pink elephant on the way to work ? ~0,000000000001%, but still. And in my "incorrect" phrase I mean that in the our process we have taken maximum possible measures to protect the product. So, chance to get some bacterias/fungus/pink elephants into the product tends ot zero, but still.
Sorry again

It would have sounded better if you just said "you're right, there are always possibilities for it to be contaminated. We take maximum measures to ensure sterility although it can always be a possibility" and left it at that. Don't insult or belittle members here for calling you out on something you said out of error by talking about pink elephants. That shit is impossible, contaminated hormone is not.

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

It would have sounded better if you just said "you're right, there are always possibilities for it to be contaminated. We take maximum measures to ensure sterility although it can always be a possibility" and left it at that. Don't insult or belittle members here for calling you out on something you said out of error by talking about pink elephants. That shit is impossible, contaminated hormone is not.

Elephants too. Some psychopath can steal an elephant and pour paint.
I talking about health of peoples, no compromises in terms of safety. It's very important point for us, I know our process and I would said that the chance to have bacteria = chance to face with pink elephant. And as you said we take maximum measures to ensure sterility.
I think that when someone buys a medicine drugs for intramuscular injection - no one thinks that some bacteria can be inside. Safety in the manufacture of such preparations paramount.

And sorry again if I insulted someone.

 

[manafest]

Elephants too. Some psychopath can steal an elephant and pour paint.
I talking about health of peoples, no compromises in terms of safety. It's very important point for us, I know our process and I would said that the chance to have bacteria = chance to face with pink elephant. And as you said we take maximum measures to ensure sterility.
I think that when someone buys a medicine drugs for intramuscular injection - no one thinks that some bacteria can be inside. Safety in the manufacture of such preparations paramount.

And sorry again if I insulted someone.

I wouldnt be saying sorry... As ive stated there isnt a single damm problem with anyone just spewing your gear caused them and infecton..but when you make a comment back such as you did you see them flame away... amazing how people are ..one sided, one way, their way..

 

[Trapmonster]

Elephants too. Some psychopath can steal an elephant and pour paint.
I talking about health of peoples, no compromises in terms of safety. It's very important point for us, I know our process and I would said that the chance to have bacteria = chance to face with pink elephant. And as you said we take maximum measures to ensure sterility.
I think that when someone buys a medicine drugs for intramuscular injection - no one thinks that some bacteria can be inside. Safety in the manufacture of such preparations paramount.

And sorry again if I insulted someone.

its cool, you didn't insult me. I know you were trying to joke and lighten things up a bit while still addressing the issue, but when it comes to contamination and such, a simple professional response is best preferred.

 

[bgpate]

Sure your own self injecting techniques were not the problem?.. Some people have dirty bacteria skin and dont prep properly, in some cases the actual housing they live in is more of a threat then the stuff they are trying to inject... So many things to rule out but its always the gear...

Preach!!!!!!

 

[WifeBeater]

JESUS MESO CAN BE SO WHINY SOMETIMES...

 

[SouthernFryed]

I wish that, if you are going to join in my aspect of the discussion, please read all of my comments carefully before replying so that what we add is informative and helpful.

I never said the gear gave me an infection. I said that the doctor told me that cellulitis could only be caused by bacteria, or more specifically "flora". I didn't say I believed that the doctor was correct, just that I wanted to take into consideration every factor so I could Understand what happened and why, and avoid it in the future so I could use the gear with minimal if any issue.

As far as understanding what exactly is behind the reaction, I've yet to get a definitive explanation. I get that something in it is irritating to the body, and more so to some than others, with dosage playing a big role in it. Pharmacom did reply reassuring the sterility of their product, which I never really doubted unless the product I received was counterfeit.

I already explained my reasons and methods of using the testE500. In hindsight I wish I had just stuck with the testC250 as it's worked fine with zero PIP. But it is what it is.

I would advise anyone who reads this in the future to not dose in the same spot until all swelling/soreness is entirely gone, and dilute with either a lower doses oil or filtered sterile GSO or similar substance.

If anyone can add helpful information concerning the actual cause of irritation I would appreciate it, but beyond that I'm putting this behind me now as the original reaction is almost 1/4 healed and I pinned lower on my right glute Sunday night mixing 1/4ml TestE500 with 1/4ml testc250 and have virtually no PIP which seems to confirm my belief that this all originated from using this new stuff and injecting in the same spot while it was still sore.