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Those numbers actually sound about spot on if you ask me. I was taking 110mg EW of TRT and it brought me from 417 to mid 800's. Did bloods 5 days post injection.

So you're taking roughly 200mg and you're around the same as me? What was the ranges the lab used? That could account for a loss possibly.

Just food for thought. Send it in. The only way you'll know.
 
alright here goes my experience, first ordered from you about mid to early november, a singular bottle of Test P100, from the domestic store, transaction was easy, messaging was good, package arrived in about 4 or 5 business days as expected.

I have since ordered more of the same, but from the international store, that was 4 weeks ago and counting, the FAQ on you / their site specifies 12-14 days international shipping, I e-mailed asking what was up, and got an indifferent response of "sorry nothing we can do, will ship again if seized"

The tracking I have has shown the package to have been in hong kong for almost 20 days,


I do expect it to show up, as a guy above commented a similar experience in delay recently, and got it around 5 weeks, still a pretty big joke, considering they tell you 12-14 days.


but here's the bigger problem, I have been taking 25mg a day of their Test P 100 so 175mg a week of propionate, roughly equiv to 200mg a week enanthate or cyp.

while simultaneously running pharmaceutical HCG 250iu EOD, from another source.

and after being "on" for over a month I finally got my first blood test

testosterone was 898.

The HCG itself is beyond reproach, it's pharmaceutical and I can notice an appreciable difference in my nuts vs using / not using.

now my natural test was never anything to brag about, anywhere from 300-500, so lets say the HCG stimulating my own production is responsible for 400 of that, or to be even more conservative say 300, that means at a dosage of 175mg a week testosterone pharmacom labs TestP100, is at best netting me 600 ng/dl in my blood, which is absurdly low.

I don't want to put too fine a point on it, but that means you could take 350mg a week, a full on cycle for a lot of people, and still not even be out of range at your annual male check up.


It really makes you think about the recent test prop 50 they released, which nobody likely asked for, If I had to guess I might say they realized a ton of their test prop was under dosed, and instead of writing it off, just re-marketed it as some new product.


but even then, it'd still be under dosed.


draw your own conclusions, the fiasco that is ordering from them international, which btw is the only option considering their totally out of anything you might want domestically, is enough to make me never want to order from them again.


but the fact that when you get it, it might be 1/3rd or less as powerful as you need it to be, is unforgivable.

Why 25mg ed instead of 50mg eod? What gauge needle and how are you pinning sub q? How long from last pin did you get blood work done?
 
You know honestly, you can't really comment on potency if you really don't know.

I felt the Test E 500 was underdosed based on my bloods not exceeding my expectations.
So I sent it to Analyzer for testing. The product came almost Spot on.
Turns out I'm not as sensitive as others.

Not saying it isn't underdosed, I'm just saying if you really don't know you can't say. I learnt a big lesson sending it for testing about my body and how I react.

So I'd advise you a move to make is sending it to Analyzer for testing, you only need .2-.5 ml for him.

Just saying my experience when I thought the same as you.

My 2 tests came bang on. I'll be doing a couple more in January.



I appreciate that, thought I think it would be unlikely, as I''ve used many different Testosterones the past few years, and 95% of the time, my levels were within a range similar to other users of the same product / or what could be expected based on the dosage. The other 5% of the time, my suspicion proved correct and the shit I was on had problems.

as far as testing it goes, I'm not going to sink anymore money into this, If I didn't have extensive experience regarding my bodys reaction to test injections / levels w.e

it might be worthwhile,


but I'm not gonna order from these guys again anyway, too much skepticism now, I'll just get new shit, and after taking that, I'll be getting a blood test anyway, which will basically tell me exactly what testing this bottle in a lab would, plus other stuff.


If It looks like it's a problem with me, and not the gear, which I'm basically only leaving open as a possibility only from an academic sense, not something I believe, then I'll come back and eat my hat.


but i'd still never order from these people again, looking like 5 weeks at best for the rest of my order they promised in two, If i'm gonna pay those prices, and wait that long, it better have fallen off the back of a Bayer truck somewhere in europe. With better customer service than "sorry can't help you."
 
Why 25mg ed instead of 50mg eod? What gauge needle and how are you pinning sub q? How long from last pin did you get blood work done?

I just try do as often as possible within reason, I think the half life of cyp and enanthate is something like 13-14 days, but consensus with TRT guys is to two it no less than once a week, and many do twice a week, so I took that same logic and applied it to the propionate, with it's half life I think from 24-48+ depending on who you ask,

and settled on ED,

that and some anecdotes about low SHBG guys talking about having success with this protocol, and yes sub-q, 30 gauge needles , half inch, alternating positions outer quads, and both delts.

last injection was probably 14 hours prior to blood test, and the HCG was done at the same time.
 
I appreciate that, thought I think it would be unlikely, as I''ve used many different Testosterones the past few years, and 95% of the time, my levels were within a range similar to other users of the same product / or what could be expected based on the dosage. The other 5% of the time, my suspicion proved correct and the shit I was on had problems.

as far as testing it goes, I'm not going to sink anymore money into this, If I didn't have extensive experience regarding my bodys reaction to test injections / levels w.e

it might be worthwhile,


but I'm not gonna order from these guys again anyway, too much skepticism now, I'll just get new shit, and after taking that, I'll be getting a blood test anyway, which will basically tell me exactly what testing this bottle in a lab would, plus other stuff.


If It looks like it's a problem with me, and not the gear, which I'm basically only leaving open as a possibility only from an academic sense, not something I believe, then I'll come back and eat my hat.


but i'd still never order from these people again, looking like 5 weeks at best for the rest of my order they promised in two, If i'm gonna pay those prices, and wait that long, it better have fallen off the back of a Bayer truck somewhere in europe. With better customer service than "sorry can't help you."

So you'll invest 100 dollars in a blood test but wouldn't invest 80 dollars on testing the gear?

On top of the fact that if you did, and you wrote Basic... they might even refund/replace any questionable products?

I thought I knew my body too, but I was wrong! Lol
But maybe your replacement product is overdosed by some chance? I guess you'll never really really know.

Good luck though...
 
So you'll invest 100 dollars in a blood test but wouldn't invest 80 dollars on testing the gear?

On top of the fact that if you did, and you wrote Basic... they might even refund/replace any questionable products?

I thought I knew my body too, but I was wrong! Lol
But maybe your replacement product is overdosed by some chance? I guess you'll never really really know.

Good luck though...


appreciate it, blood test for me is $50, nah i just meant that regardless of what I get on, or who it's from, I do blood work, so it's not even an extra $50.

I agree with the widsom of testing it, and I don't mean my little experience to be definitive evidence that the source has a problem, or even that my own little one off bottle has a problem.

It's just that it's enough for me to be skeptical and find a new one, and maybe this information, though by no means conclusive or w.e

would be valuable to somebody looking
 
I just try do as often as possible within reason, I think the half life of cyp and enanthate is something like 13-14 days, but consensus with TRT guys is to two it no less than once a week, and many do twice a week, so I took that same logic and applied it to the propionate, with it's half life I think from 24-48+ depending on who you ask,

and settled on ED,

that and some anecdotes about low SHBG guys talking about having success with this protocol, and yes sub-q, 30 gauge needles , half inch, alternating positions outer quads, and both delts.

last injection was probably 14 hours prior to blood test, and the HCG was done at the same time.
I dont think your numbers are that bad I'm no prop expert but I'd think 900 is ok on 175mg a week on my script 200 has me between 1000-1,200. But hey you are not satisfied and have better results with another source that's fine. Everyone has their experiences and opinions. I think if you would pin 50mg eod it would yield slightly better numbers but you are more stable pinning every day

I'll say my numbers pinning sub q were the lowest ever but you might always pin sub q that was just my experience
 
I dont think your numbers are that bad I'm no prop expert but I'd think 900 is ok on 175mg a week on my script 200 has me between 1000-1,200. But hey you are not satisfied and have better results with another source that's fine. Everyone has their experiences and opinions. I think if you would pin 50mg eod it would yield slightly better numbers but you are more stable pinning every day

I'll say my numbers pinning sub q were the lowest ever but you might always pin sub q that was just my experience

thanks for the advice, and your experience, that is a little reassuring, i'll try the EOD and dig a little deeper for some muscle tissue
 
@Pharmacom Helper

You know seizures are a fucking bitch and some people have held that against you.

I've been reading the ppl thread about dirty gear and just get blown away.

So I wanna say thanks!

Thanks for the clean gear, and no issues in 2 years of using it. Keep up the good work. Some question quality but I've had nothing but great results and I've tested it.
 
Folks, I just wanted to wish you Merry Xmas and Happy New Year! Really wish you all the best in the coming year!
Hoping it will be full of pleasant moments and joy.
We, Pharmacom Labs, from our sides are working on several products and present them in a while to make you a little bit more happy!
But... its not time yet... all announcements will be done later, when ready.
p.s. replying to all pms now. patience please.
 
''Dear customers,
starting from now we stop shippings in this year. All paid orders will be shipped today.
We are launching our Christmas promo in a few hours, but all orders will be shipped after roughly 8th of January.''

tilted because I have always ordered from you and never had any issue, I just ordered, first time my paiement is taking so much time to be accepted and then I see this ? wtf Did I just get scammed or you have so much money you can take a hudge fucking vacancy and not care about customers ? WHILE doing a fucking promo ? anyway maybe I got scam, happy holiday guys
 
My package is in my country, based on what the international tracker says. But sadly they don't provide tracking when it is in my country. It got here at the 19-12... Should I be worried? lol
 
My package is in my country, based on what the international tracker says. But sadly they don't provide tracking when it is in my country. It got here at the 19-12... Should I be worried? lol

No
 
Pinned the 500 mg in biceps 250 mg in each. Got some PIP coming. But last glute shot of 1 cc hurt a lot again, I wonder when I will get used to it. If I ever will...
 
I made 2 orders during the Thanksgiving sale, both right after each other. 1 pack has landed and the tracking updated during the whole transit. The 2nd package’s tracking hasn’t been updating and hadn’t arrived. Do you think it was seized? It’s weird that they’d get separated and be that far apart. I got first package few days ago. Maybe I should be patient and give it few more days but wanted to see if anyone wise had that happened? Thanks

@Pharmacom Helper @Pharmacom Labs any insight on what happened?
 
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