Pharmacom Mix Tren/Pharmacom Mix 4/Primo/Equipoise

[John White]

This is my 4th cycle
Been researching my ass off and pharmacom looks legit

Wanna give this a shot

3 months prior to cycle:
CUTTING PHASE-

HGH - 2iu ed
T3 - 25mcg ed
Clenbuterol - 40mcg ed

CYCLE:
QUALITY MUSCLE GAIN-

WEEKS 1-12
PharmaPrim 100 / 500mg once a week
Pharma3-Tren Mix / 400mg once a week

WEEKS 1-20
PharmaMix4 / 600mg once a week

WEEKS 1-19
PharmaBold500 / 500mg once a week

WEEKS 1-20
Arimidex / 0.75mg every other day

POST CYCLE THERAPY

WEEKS 21-22
Clomid / 50mg everyday

 

[Wunderpus]

This is my 4th cycle
Been researching my ass off and pharmacom looks legit

Wanna give this a shot

3 months prior to cycle:
CUTTING PHASE-

HGH - 2iu ed
T3 - 25mcg ed
Clenbuterol - 40mcg ed

CYCLE:
QUALITY MUSCLE GAIN-

WEEKS 1-12
PharmaPrim 100 / 500mg once a week
Pharma3-Tren Mix / 400mg once a week

WEEKS 1-20
PharmaMix4 / 600mg once a week

WEEKS 1-19
PharmaBold500 / 500mg once a week

WEEKS 1-20
Arimidex / 0.75mg every other day

POST CYCLE THERAPY

WEEKS 21-22
Clomid / 50mg everyday

If I may, I have a few suggestions/tweaks/comments:

Primo- Run it at 700 or more a week, or it's a waste IME. You just won't notice anything from it. Also, running it WITH tren seems like a bigger waste, just run the tren or primo, not both. The tren will eclipse the primo tenfold, in terms of actual results.

T3- T4 will be less harsh than T3, and is complimentary to GH.

 

[John White]

Wunderpus.. Thanx for feedback.. I'm going to look into the stack of primo and tren more thoroughly and re check.

Question on the t3 and t4 though, I came across this when I came to my conclusion upon t3

" T3 is an active thyroid hormone. T4 is actually produced by your thyroid gland and is then converted by a deiodinase enzyme into the T3 hormone while in the liver and sometimes in other organs in lesser amounts. On its own, T4 is of little use. It is the T3 hormone that is the active hormone. The T3 hormone is up to five times more potent than the T4 hormone, and without having T4 converted into T3, one's metabolic rate does not increase."

1. Source:
   What Is the Difference Between T4 & T3? | eHow
   

 

[Bone Gristle]

@Wunderpus is right about tren and primo. My second cycle was a test/high dose primo run and the gains were slow and steady. I was happy with the results. I was hard and vascular with sustainable muscle growth.

Currently running tren at 50 mg a day on week 6 with test and it's doing everything primo did, except 10x better. You're pretty much throwing money away running primo with such a strong compound like tren.

 

[Wunderpus]

Wunderpus.. Thanx for feedback.. I'm going to look into the stack of primo and tren more thoroughly and re check.

Question on the t3 and t4 though, I came across this when I came to my conclusion upon t3

" T3 is an active thyroid hormone. T4 is actually produced by your thyroid gland and is then converted by a deiodinase enzyme into the T3 hormone while in the liver and sometimes in other organs in lesser amounts. On its own, T4 is of little use. It is the T3 hormone that is the active hormone. The T3 hormone is up to five times more potent than the T4 hormone, and without having T4 converted into T3, one's metabolic rate does not increase."

1. Source:
   What Is the Difference Between T4 & T3? | eHow

Thyroid Hormone + Growth Hormone - If You Aren’t Using T4 with Your GH, You’re Not Doing It Right

 

[John White]

Ok thanks for feedback...

So if I take out the primo

How does rest of cycle look?

Also do u think it's a good idea to run HGH 3 months prior to cycle and then run it with cycle??

 

[Wunderpus]

Ok thanks for feedback...

So if I take out the primo

How does rest of cycle look?

Also do u think it's a good idea to run HGH 3 months prior to cycle and then run it with cycle??

Run the GH for a min. of 5 months, so 3 months ahead if it's a 2 month or more cycle is fine. Don't discontinue it's usage at anytime, it'll be hitting it's prime around month 3 in terms of results.

 

[John White]

Wunderpus after looking up

T3 or t4 with HGH

I seen a lot of good research on you spoke of.. I appreciate your input

I will be now take out t3 and add the t4

 

[John White]

Can I take t4 with HGH for that length of time?!? If so what type of sides should I expect?

 

[John White]

Ok so how about I restructure at this:

This is my 4th cycle
Been researching my ass off and Pharmacom looks legit

Wanna give this a shot

3 months prior to cycle:
CUTTING PHASE-

Pharmacom HGH - 2iu ed
T4 - 25mcg ed
clenbuterol - 40mcg ed

CYCLE:
QUALITY MUSCLE GAIN-

WEEKS 1-20
Clenbuterol 40mcg / 2wks on - 2wks off
Adipex 37.5 mg / 2wks off - 2wks on
Pharmacom HGH - 2iu ed
PharmaMix4 / 600mg once a week

WEEKS 1-12
PharmaPrim 100 / 500mg once a week
Pharma3-tren Mix / 400mg once a week

WEEKS 13-19
PharmaBold500 / 1000mg once a week

WEEKS 1-20
arimidex / 0.75mg every other day

POST CYCLE THERAPY

WEEKS 21-22
clomid / 50mg everyday

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I feel like I can get away with running primo consecutive after the tren mix or should I just get rid of it altogether.

And shouldn't I be adding a lot more for pct??

 

[Pomacanthidae]

why even run primo when you have tren? Tren is a god king among mere peasants. drop the primo...

 

[John White]

Because tren is harsh on system and I'm running a long cycle

I want to run it as long as possible with least amount of sides

Tren is the only real serious compound I'm taking and I'll be taking it at 400mg a week for 12 weeks which I believe is max for myself. So I'd like to carry on the cycle w/equipoise & Pharmacom mix4 as those aren't really that harsh on system and can be ran a lot longer to achieve maximum results. So my thinking was to throw in the primo anyways AFTER I'm done with tren so I have something to stack with equipoise!

 

[Bmwforme]

@Wunderpus is right about tren and primo. My second cycle was a test/high dose primo run and the gains were slow and steady. I was happy with the results. I was hard and vascular with sustainable muscle growth.

Currently running tren at 50 mg a day on week 6 with test and it's doing everything primo did, except 10x better. You're pretty much throwing money away running primo with such a strong compound like tren.

I disagree I am on my 3rd cycle of test tren primo var- I've had great results running tren and primo together. Primo makes your muscles really fill out and round out. Shoulders look like softballs by week 8. Biceps peak like no other. Where tren beefs me up primo adds the definition. Mind you I run tren and primo between 800mg-1000mg week for 16 weeks. This run I added gh at 5iu day, 5 on 2 off- will run for 6 months. I'm excited only 3 weeks into the gh so haven't noticed anything yet obviously hopefully by month 3 I'll start noticing the gh.

 

[Pomacanthidae]

I change my mind. Wtf lol all of these are serious compounds. They are fucking anabolic hormones! Not only that but if you're afraid of the tren devil why run it for 12 weeks? You're much better off runnin ace for 8. Ignorance is bliss bro stupidity isn't. Guys have given you solid advice about dropping the primo trying you help you out. Sorry not trying to be a dick but god damn man.

This is to op btw

 

[John White]

Bmw

U ran each at 800-1000mg
And 5iu HGH

 

[Bone Gristle]

I disagree I am on my 3rd cycle of test tren primo var- I've had great results running tren and primo together. Primo makes your muscles really fill out and round out. Shoulders look like softballs by week 8. Biceps peak like no other. Where tren beefs me up primo adds the definition. Mind you I run tren and primo between 800mg-1000mg week for 16 weeks. This run I added gh at 5iu day, 5 on 2 off- will run for 6 months. I'm excited only 3 weeks into the gh so haven't noticed anything yet obviously hopefully by month 3 I'll start noticing the gh.

Tren did the same for my shoulders. Tren gives you lean muscle without the water in half of the time it takes primo to do the same.

Primo = 16 weeks/good gains
Tren = 8 weeks/god mode

 

[Bmwforme]

Ya bro first run 800mg tren ace week, 1g primo week, 500mg test 100mg var day

2nd run 900mg tren ace, 900mg primo, 400 mg test, 100 mg var - didn't notice a difference decreasing primo
Dose- side on tren were tough towards end of cycle

Now I'm on my 3rd run of this cycle 800mg tren ace, 800mg primo, 100mg var/ day, 5iu gh 5 on 2 off - this cycle is all pharmacom gear- first time using there product will run cycle 16-20 weeks I'm 3 weeks in and have all product on hand to complete cycle. Prior two cycles were a local ugl that I had great results with. This isn't a cycle for someone on a budget I'll tell you that much. Good luck.

 

[Bmwforme]

Oops and I'm running 500mg test currently - broken into 200mg cyp and 300 mg prop