Pharmacom Test E Bloods

Nice increase in test. What ya gonna do about estro? Thanks for sharing.
Being that I only have 1 pin left for this cycle and I'm not feeling any sides... not gonna do anything. I take .5mg Adex e3d so next cycle I'll dose .5mg eod

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Nice test level.
I am surprised you do not have any sides with that E2, but more power to you if you are so lucky! I am jealous lol :)
I think what really has me jealous is that creatinine and eGFR-- those are awesome numbers. I am struggling in that area.

What is your diet and training like?
 
Nice test level.
I am surprised you do not have any sides with that E2, but more power to you if you are so lucky! I am jealous lol :)
I think what really has me jealous is that creatinine and eGFR-- those are awesome numbers. I am struggling in that area.

What is your diet and training like?

Diet is very basic, seems the more I try to complicate it the more I stray away..

Breakfast: 4 whole eggs scrambled, 4 tblspn natural PB, 1/2cup(uncooked) original oatmeal with 1/3 scoop protein powder mixed in

the following is on a "perfect" day
4 more meal - 6oz baked chicken, 1/2 cup basmati rice, 8oz green(usually asparagus)
last meal - 8oz steak, medium sized baked potato(6-8oz), greens

post workout - 2 scoop protein shake

training was whatever I could get in, work really screwed me on this cycle, but I gotta pay the bills somehow. I usually train the "bro" split, so nothing fancy to post on that. looking to bulk now until the 1st of the new year and im not sure what type of training ill try, any suggestion??

jesus... sorry for this paragraph
 
Diet is very basic, seems the more I try to complicate it the more I stray away..

Breakfast: 4 whole eggs scrambled, 4 tblspn natural PB, 1/2cup(uncooked) original oatmeal with 1/3 scoop protein powder mixed in

the following is on a "perfect" day
4 more meal - 6oz baked chicken, 1/2 cup basmati rice, 8oz green(usually asparagus)
last meal - 8oz steak, medium sized baked potato(6-8oz), greens

post workout - 2 scoop protein shake

training was whatever I could get in, work really screwed me on this cycle, but I gotta pay the bills somehow. I usually train the "bro" split, so nothing fancy to post on that. looking to bulk now until the 1st of the new year and im not sure what type of training ill try, any suggestion??

jesus... sorry for this paragraph

nice.
thanks for the detailed reply.
Did you feel you had good gains on this cycle?
 
yes....yes.... more pharmacom bloods

Test E 300 ordered from basicstero
Pin 375mg twice weekly(sunday morn, Wed night)
14 weeks into cycle, blood work 36hrs after pin(no mid cycle labs due to 7days/week work schedule)
precycle labs posted for reference.

Can you post screenshots of your lab results? I really don't want to download a pdf file as its not safe or secure.
 
nice.
thanks for the detailed reply.
Did you feel you had good gains on this cycle?
Considering all things, I'm pleased with everything. I maintained my weight while leaning out some and increasing my strength. Now I'm looking to clean bulk and lean out significantly more by next summer, and hopefully not fall under 200 lbs.
Can you post screenshots of your lab results? I really don't want to download a pdf file as its not safe or secure.
Sure. Give me just a minute

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You pin 375 mg x 2 =750 mg a week.
Your test numbers came back around 5.6x.

As long as you made gainz, great! Those numbers arent great considering the amount of gear you pinned. Plus the fact your normal test numbers werent that low.

Respectfully
 
Consistent... Mine @2 pins weekly x300 (600mg weekly) came back at 3443

Others have resembled similar bloods with dosing 2x a week instead of one injection

Just my observation
 
You pin 375 mg x 2 =750 mg a week.
Your test numbers came back around 5.6x.

As long as you made gainz, great! Those numbers arent great considering the amount of gear you pinned. Plus the fact your normal test numbers werent that low.

Respectfully

@mghoward74, if I recall correctly isn't your total testosterone levels based on your last injection and not your total weekly dosage? If this is the case then it would be 11.52x.
 
@mghoward74, if I recall correctly isn't your total testosterone levels based on your last injection and not your total weekly dosage? If this is the case then it would be 11.52x.

Last time we had this type of discussion it was based weekly injections. Not the last injection prior to blood draw. Do you recall how frontloading is used and how using it gets levels up twice as fast as the normal pinning. 750 mg per week is just that...750 mg.

Boilermech and myself tested this theory. We both pinned 500 mg per week of Test. He pinned once a week and I pinned twice a week. We got gear from the same source at the same time. We also did bloodwork the same time. Our scores were the same. If I'm not mistaken there's someone else here who did the same thing recently. Problem is I can't remember the members name

Dr. Scally has post regarding the 10x rule of thumb.
 
Last time we had this type of discussion it was based weekly injections. Not the last injection prior to blood draw. Do you recall how frontloading is used and how using it gets levels up twice as fast as the normal pinning. 750 mg per week is just that...750 mg.
Yes, I'm familiar with front-loading and understand the concept. I see how one could interpret a similar technique to help determine the total testosterone level based on your last injection or overall dosage.

Boilermech and myself tested this theory. We both pinned 500 mg per week of Test. He pinned once a week and I pinned twice a week. We got gear from the same source at the same time. We also did bloodwork the same time. Our scores were the same. If I'm not mistaken there's someone else here who did the same thing recently. Problem is I can't remember the members name
Interesting! Must have overlooked this particular thread. Do you mind making it easy for me and posting the link? I would definitely like to read up on it.
 
Yes, I'm familiar with front-loading and understand the concept. I see how one could interpret a similar technique to help determine the total testosterone level based on your last injection or overall dosage.


Interesting! Must have overlooked this particular thread. Do you mind making it easy for me and posting the link? I would definitely like to read up on it.

It should be in the mikestrong thread. Both our scores were in the 2400's. Our conversation were mostly through pm though.

I just found a link the basically says Test numbers are directly related to mg per week. It's a long read and I want to make sure I understand fully before posting it.
 
Had another member @Dw725 test theory of twice weekly vs once weekly, and found his to go off last injection I think.

I've skimmed thru the Mike strong thread, think he was slightly higher than you with different timing? May be wrong

Respectfully

Edit I think I may have not been in Mike strong thread but another:(

What ya say makes since

Dang OL rules of thumbs--- wish it was an exact science
 
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Sorry, it wasn't in the mikestrong thread. We both pinned 72 hours after last injection. Most people think 36-48 is sufficient, but Boilermech numbers actually came out higher at the 72 hour mark vs. 36 and 48. As you can see my numbers were 2900's.

Now mind you the 10x rule is not set in stone. Scally just calls it that. He refers to is as the 7-10 rule.
 
You pin 375 mg x 2 =750 mg a week.
Your test numbers came back around 5.6x.

As long as you made gainz, great! Those numbers arent great considering the amount of gear you pinned. Plus the fact your normal test numbers werent that low.

Respectfully
This is my first time to actually get bloods for a cycle so I really have nothing to compare too as far as any other gear I've ran, but yes I am pleased with the results I've gotten.

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