PHARMACOM TEST E MID CYCLE BLOODSBLOODS

[newkidontheblock]

I've only been on here a few times awhile back, still not sure howhat to use this, but I did a cycle last year 15 of weeks tren and test, then went straight into decca and I think it was test c.... I was going off a friend who I thought knew what they were talking about. Long story shirt i Gained like 25 pounds. Well I didn't pct and lost evetything, fuck I felt bigger before I even used gear... can anyone help me put together a proper cycle and pct? Sorry again for chiming in on wrong forum

 

[Geterdun]

@Kakarot bro, like I said, this is no longer related to this member. Fine, he might be a scammer. Now that that's out of the way, what do you propose we do when this happens again to another member? More respected? Because this is their standard on how to handle it. Just do everything we say even though your still going to need to send it to Simec. It's like their a health insurance company. Sorry, your test cost was denied, you might get a bill in the mail.

 

[Les]

I've only been on here a few times awhile back, still not sure howhat to use this, but I did a cycle last year 15 of weeks tren and test, then went straight into decca and I think it was test c.... I was going off a friend who I thought knew what they were talking about. Long story shirt i Gained like 25 pounds. Well I didn't pct and lost evetything, fuck I felt bigger before I even used gear... can anyone help me put together a proper cycle and pct? Sorry again for chiming in on wrong forum

You may start your own thread with this. You will possibly get some good info.

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[Dema]

@Kakarot bro, like I said, this is no longer related to this member. Fine, he might be a scammer. Now that that's out of the way, what do you propose we do when this happens again to another member? More respected? Because this is their standard on how to handle it. Just do everything we say even though your still going to need to send it to Simec. It's like their a health insurance company. Sorry, your test cost was denied, you might get a bill in the mail.

My question to you is... What would you like to see happen?

 

[Geterdun]

I've only been on here a few times awhile back, still not sure howhat to use this, but I did a cycle last year 15 of weeks tren and test, then went straight into decca and I think it was test c.... I was going off a friend who I thought knew what they were talking about. Long story shirt i Gained like 25 pounds. Well I didn't pct and lost evetything, fuck I felt bigger before I even used gear... can anyone help me put together a proper cycle and pct? Sorry again for chiming in on wrong forum

Brother, unless your gear was sent to Simec for testing, you have no proof of your claim.

Sorry, just a joke, try doing a little reading in the cycle logs forum. There are hundreds of cycles, new and experienced cycles, with pct.

 

[CdnGuy]

I've only been on here a few times awhile back, still not sure howhat to use this, but I did a cycle last year 15 of weeks tren and test, then went straight into decca and I think it was test c.... I was going off a friend who I thought knew what they were talking about. Long story shirt i Gained like 25 pounds. Well I didn't pct and lost evetything, fuck I felt bigger before I even used gear... can anyone help me put together a proper cycle and pct? Sorry again for chiming in on wrong forum

your welcome

Comprehensive Guide to PCT

 

[Geterdun]

@Dema someone needs to set a standard criteria for members to follow on issues. To say Bloodwork doesn't matter, but turn around and pay people to post it is hypocritical to say the least. That's sending the wrong message. Set a standard protocol and follow it. Something that doesn't abuse Simec on everything.

Your ok with posting Bloodwork to give store credit and you don't put the member through this mess, just to tell them, Simec it is!

 

[Kakarot]

@Dema someone needs to set a standard criteria for members to follow on issues. To say Bloodwork doesn't matter, but turn around and pay people to post it is hypocritical to say the least. That's sending the wrong message. Set a standard protocol and follow it. Something that doesn't abuse Simec on everything.

People should be doing bloods regardless. They should be able to show us a before so we can see their normal ranges they should be able to write on it (not use paint to write on a picture) and post history should be taken into consideration. Simic has had problems as of late they're moving bla bla bla ok well not too many posts above this they're offering to send it somewhere else of our choosing. What else would you like them to prove it's legit? Most of these other labs want nothing to do with testing.

 

[Geterdun]

I'm asking for the impossible to find member who does everything asked for. If the member checks out, why does it need to be tested by ANY LAB if the Bloodwork shows bad numbers. If a member checks out, does everything asked of them and their Bloodwork shows bad numbers, why abuse Simec to tell us what Bloodwork already has.

I don't want to make a new thread.

@Dema @Darius PharmacomStore what is Pcoms policy when Bloodwork comes back bad? If the customer wants replacement, how do they get this?

 

[Kakarot]

I'm asking for the impossible to find member who does everything asked for. If the member checks out, why does it need to be tested by ANY LAB if the Bloodwork shows bad numbers. If a member checks out, does everything asked of them and their Bloodwork shows bad numbers, why abuse Simec to tell us what Bloodwork already has.

I don't want to make a new thread.

@Dema @Darius PharmacomStore what is Pcoms policy when Bloodwork comes back bad? If the customer wants replacement, how do they get this?

Abusing simic?... Dude they're a business they probably like doing business.lol

 

[Geterdun]

Im sure they do. Pcom is a business to. Are you ok buying gear from them? Do you buy and use their gear? Their a business, why not.

Look, my point for the last time is I think Pcom uses Simec as a way out. That's all.

 

[Les]

There's really only so much any company can do to make things right. If the product produces bad bloods and the proper protocol was followed they can replace the product and or it can be sent off for testing.

If the bad bloods become a legit pattern then it's a pretty simple choice for anyone looking for gear.

Honestly the short time I've been around this aas I've seen its a dirty game so you just need take in all the data and try and make an informed decision.


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[Do3Gs]

Im sure they do. Pcom is a business to. Are you ok buying gear from them? Do you buy and use their gear? Their a business, why not.

Look, my point for the last time is I think Pcom uses Simec as a way out. That's all.

Man, you need to step back and take a breather before you have a stroke. All you've done since you've got here is try to ride Pharmacom like a show pony. I believe some of your intentions are in the right place and agree with some of what you say but God man calm the fuck down. I don't think I'd be far off to claim that 90% of your posts are in Pharmacom related threads.

We have to try and hold sources accountable, believe me I agree with that 100% but you seem to be taking their issues a little personal.

 

[Dema]

I'm asking for the impossible to find member who does everything asked for. If the member checks out, why does it need to be tested by ANY LAB if the Bloodwork shows bad numbers. If a member checks out, does everything asked of them and their Bloodwork shows bad numbers, why abuse Simec to tell us what Bloodwork already has.

I don't want to make a new thread.

@Dema @Darius PharmacomStore what is Pcoms policy when Bloodwork comes back bad? If the customer wants replacement, how do they get this?

I honestly can't tell you the answer but what we do know is
Darius offers $100 store credit with posted blood work bad or good results which would be more then a vial of test.

 

[Geterdun]

Man, you need to step back and take a breather before you have a stroke. All you've done since you've got here is try to ride Pharmacom like a show pony. I believe some of your intentions are in the right place and agree with some of what you say but God man calm the fuck down. I don't think I'd be far off to claim that 90% of your posts are in Pharmacom related threads.

We have to try and hold sources accountable, believe me I agree with that 100% but you seem to be taking their issues a little personal.

Of my 622 posts, i find it hard to believe that 559 are about Pcom. That's 90% by the way. I've stated my point and won't change it either. Sorry if I offended you, or wasted your time here, I will try to make sure it doesn't happen again.

 

[CdnGuy]

I'm asking for the impossible to find member who does everything asked for. If the member checks out, why does it need to be tested by ANY LAB if the Bloodwork shows bad numbers. If a member checks out, does everything asked of them and their Bloodwork shows bad numbers, why abuse Simec to tell us what Bloodwork already has.

I don't want to make a new thread.

@Dema @Darius PharmacomStore what is Pcoms policy when Bloodwork comes back bad? If the customer wants replacement, how do they get this?

You mean you don't know that policy ? PC Policy # 1 We are fast to take your money. But if not happy TFB! TOO FUCKING BAD !

 

[Do3Gs]

Of my 622 posts, i find it hard to believe that 559 are about Pcom. That's 90% by the way. I've stated my point and won't change it either. Sorry if I offended you, or wasted your time here, I will try to make sure it doesn't happen again.

Go count them, it will give you something to do while you get your heart rate down.

You didn't, and most likely couldn't, offend me. I'm just pointing out that while everyone jumps shit heads for only being in source threads talking positive you're portraying the other end of the spectrum. Like it's your personal mission or duty to discredit and bring down Pharmacom.

You've asked good questions at times and brought up good points so don't think I'm trying fully discredit or attack you. I'm just saying maybe slow your roll a little, sit back and think on things some.

 

[PHL Official]

I'm asking for the impossible to find member who does everything asked for. If the member checks out, why does it need to be tested by ANY LAB if the Bloodwork shows bad numbers. If a member checks out, does everything asked of them and their Bloodwork shows bad numbers, why abuse Simec to tell us what Bloodwork already has.

I don't want to make a new thread.

@Dema @Darius PharmacomStore what is Pcoms policy when Bloodwork comes back bad? If the customer wants replacement, how do they get this?

I have a counter-question. How can we be sure that blood work was performed properly?
How can we know that testosterone was injected in the amount stated and not the half? In a while after we announce replacement of testosterones after bad blood works there will appear more and more customers who ordered 5,6,9,12 vials, got quasi bad blood work and require full replacement. Yes, the overwhelming majority is not like this, but considering our overall turn-over the number of reverse scamming trials will increase noticeably. Moreover, the worst thing is that this is a huge arena for blackmailing and backstabbing a source not only on the part of free-riders, but also unprincipled competitors in deceptive market rivalry. The story is old as the hills.
Another question, who determines the setpoints for blood works? The same dose of testosterone may show results with difference almost up to 2 times at different persons.

Im sure they do. Pcom is a business to. Are you ok buying gear from them? Do you buy and use their gear? Their a business, why not.

Look, my point for the last time is I think Pcom uses Simec as a way out. That's all.

Lab testing (Simec or any other legal and certified lab with verifiable reports) is the way out indeed, in positive meaning. This is the only undeniable way without risks for both sides.

 

[Les]

^^^^valid points. Me personally if I was convinced the gear was bunk I would post bloods and move on to a different source. That said when I used their product my numbers were fine.
I'm running someone else's gear now for unrelated reasons.

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[PHL Official]

^^^^valid points. Me personally if I was convinced the gear was bunk I would post bloods and move on to a different source. That said when I used their product my numbers were fine.
I'm running someone else's gear now for unrelated reasons.

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this talk is from the area "what if"... how many bad lab results have been shown here? I mean Simec and Chem Tox. No one product was bunk. There is a solid amount of tests performed.
Blood works are also overwhelmingly positive. Even if blood work shows 6x or 5x this is not a 100% sign of low-dosed product. I have seen similar results after prescribed drugs.
If every big mouth had done anything really useful for the board and took advantage of our offers or donated regularly we would have had dozens of reports from Simec (or other labs) showing some stable statistic. Actually, we do have them by the moment. So, what is the reaction? Conspiracy theories kinda Simec is paid, bribes, blah-blah. It is crystal clear that there will be always people bashing us and trying to find only the worst, intentionally looking for shortcomings only and ignoring positive reviews. This is the real state of things here. It`s the purpose of being here for some and this never gonna change. And i personally think, I am sure that some people are paid for this or get freebies from competitors. There is no rational explanation for behavior of some people here. This is my personal understanding of the situation. The game is dirty, this is not a secret. To hold sources accountable - this is the right idea, but not for some members trying to smear our reputation. Every strong-minded person reading the board for sure comprehends this and can read between the lines.
Pharmacom Labs always supported the idea of trusted & continuous testing