There's no need to get defensive with @Dr JIM. He just has his views that certainly make sense. Again, this thread was only to start compiling data so we could have something to reference. It may stand that the 8-10x rule be true, however, it hasn't been this way in my experience. Maybe it's because of my age and weight? But we need to start comparing these things somewhere for info only, not to start a pissing match.
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Ah you must be referring to Whacks Himself Off OP, whom is on my ignore list.
Check out his posts bc damn near all of them are that clown arguing over the 10X rule and how his SINGLE blood draw, after using TT from a compounding pharmacist, doesn't comply, Wha, Wha, Wha!
To date he has not contributed diddly to this forum, except being a naysaying troll, who is otherwise preoccupied with Slapping The Monkey.
If he changed his name to Dr jackmeoff he would have so much more credibility.
dper726
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You know why scaly does not get involved in this? Because alot of you enjoy running in circles on the topic. You only get one thing from such, and its a higher post count.
dper726
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There are factors to why the test subject resulted in such fashion. One particular could be the fact he is post peak. Again I think best results should come at 24 hour blood collection.
Think about it for a second. 6.5 is not too far from cutoff of 7-10x. The body could metabolize a crapload in a 24 hours period.
Think about it for a second. 6.5 is not too far from cutoff of 7-10x. The body could metabolize a crapload in a 24 hours period.
I_know_nothing
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Shut me up then, post the proof scally. "I saw it in my clinic" is just as strong of a proof as UGLs saying "my gear tested really well". You wait and see, the results will speak for themselves. We've got a thread now for pharma trt results...or wait they all don't count because it wasn't injected in the glutes once a week right?
I have to agree with Dr. Jim on this one. I think the shot must be placed in the glute for testing "peak" levels 24 hours after injection. Data on glute injects over the upper body show much different results as well as a more pronounced peak.
Remember guys, there's no need for a pissing match on this. Let's be constructive. I think Dr. Jim and Scally don't get involved because of the bickering. TRT data collection is a great idea but let's set a test protocol so we can start assessing peak levels from this point forward.
Remember guys, there's no need for a pissing match on this. Let's be constructive. I think Dr. Jim and Scally don't get involved because of the bickering. TRT data collection is a great idea but let's set a test protocol so we can start assessing peak levels from this point forward.
My only problem is that ol' jimmy comes in here and acts like there are volumes of literature with all these guidelines to follow. There is diddly squat literature for a 10x rule. While we can be sure that Dr Scally had numerous ASIH patients he worked with and has actual experience to base his findings on, Jimmy is only riding Scally's coattails here. There was no jimmy 10x rule until Dr Scally posted the trends he saw with bloodwork.
If you go by Dr Scally's suggestions we should see numbers around the 10x mark 2-3 days after injection, not the 12-36 that jimmy comes up with.
It's time to agree that we can get a ball park on gear concentration from bloodwork done near the peak, but not much more than that.
If you go by Dr Scally's suggestions we should see numbers around the 10x mark 2-3 days after injection, not the 12-36 that jimmy comes up with.
It's time to agree that we can get a ball park on gear concentration from bloodwork done near the peak, but not much more than that.
