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Phreezer's First cycle FAQ
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Yes, it's true that deca does take a little longer to kick in.... As 10 weeks of test and 8 weeks of deca would be more ideal, 8-6 is very effective and works well as a first cycle.. the point of these cycles are to introduce the new user to a Cycle without overwhelming them.... All 3 cycles are based on the K.I.S.S. method. And yes, they are effective!!!
grb2000
New Member
Thank you...
Phreezer,
I'm not a newbi but thank you for such a nice post. I wish there were these types of post when I started. I spent 100's of hours researching bits a pieces to finally put it all together. Thanks for your work and for saving us time.
GRB2000
Phreezer,
I'm not a newbi but thank you for such a nice post. I wish there were these types of post when I started. I spent 100's of hours researching bits a pieces to finally put it all together. Thanks for your work and for saving us time.
GRB2000
showey123
New Member
Damn good post Phreezer.I wish I wouldve had all that help on my first cycle.Its been along time ago and the only syringe I had was 18 gauge.Needless to say that was a learning experience.Good post bro
Thanks for reading guys...
Now to answer some of the questions...Sar, IMO you are not too old at 49 bro... You may however get with your doc and discuss some regular blood work and some kind of monitoring, but I certainly don't think age will be an issue, as the true purpose of Injectable human grade Testosterone is for HRT. Which is typically given to older men.
DZsandman... I have no way of knowing what it will cost... You will have to add up how much gear your cycle will take... Find out what the prices are for your gear from a reputable source and do the math again...
Mr. B.
Test is test, and if it's not Suspension or prop, the recovery will be the same for all of them. Dbol, has a very short half life about 4 hours, where most tests..enanthate, Cyp, Decanonate..etc.. have about 5-7 days. You can do the math from here, and find out when it's best to start recovery.
Take care guys..
P.S. sorry it took me so long to get back to you guys on some of these... I've very busy through the week right now, and I have little time except for the weekends... and my need for pussy takes up the majority of my free time
Now to answer some of the questions...Sar, IMO you are not too old at 49 bro... You may however get with your doc and discuss some regular blood work and some kind of monitoring, but I certainly don't think age will be an issue, as the true purpose of Injectable human grade Testosterone is for HRT. Which is typically given to older men.
DZsandman... I have no way of knowing what it will cost... You will have to add up how much gear your cycle will take... Find out what the prices are for your gear from a reputable source and do the math again...
Mr. B.
Test is test, and if it's not Suspension or prop, the recovery will be the same for all of them. Dbol, has a very short half life about 4 hours, where most tests..enanthate, Cyp, Decanonate..etc.. have about 5-7 days. You can do the math from here, and find out when it's best to start recovery.
Take care guys..
P.S. sorry it took me so long to get back to you guys on some of these... I've very busy through the week right now, and I have little time except for the weekends... and my need for pussy takes up the majority of my free time
How Much?
I might have missed this. But Im going to ask anyway. Im a 33 yo Powerlifter who has never used injectable AS before. I have done a few of the Pro Steroid cycles with a little sucess.
Im ready to go to the next level and do a cycle of Test. Probably going to use Cyp or Enanthate. Im 6'2 and around 300 lbs.
My question is how much per week should I inject? What can I expect after a few weeks? Mainly looking for recovery and strength. Wouldnt mind losing a little BF and gaining a little LBM.
Any input would be welcome.
I might have missed this. But Im going to ask anyway. Im a 33 yo Powerlifter who has never used injectable AS before. I have done a few of the Pro Steroid cycles with a little sucess.
Im ready to go to the next level and do a cycle of Test. Probably going to use Cyp or Enanthate. Im 6'2 and around 300 lbs.
My question is how much per week should I inject? What can I expect after a few weeks? Mainly looking for recovery and strength. Wouldnt mind losing a little BF and gaining a little LBM.
Any input would be welcome.
Shukdawg said:
Hmmm.... Some of your questions I can't answer..
My question is how much per week should I inject?
Well, read the Faq I've put up.. that should tell you my oppinion on how much to do specificly each week.
What can I expect after a few weeks?
You can expect to be bloated, be stronger, have some acne, have better recovery time etc..... I have no idea how much mass you will gain, that all depends on your training, your eating habbits, sleep habbits, and drinking habbits.
Mainly looking for recovery and strength
Then I would suggest DBOL tren and test
Wouldnt mind losing a little BF and gaining a little LBM.
This will depend greatly on your diet and your over all physical commitment to leaning up. If you're wanting to cut down a you might consider just running a test and tren cycle.
I would run 500mg Test a week (bi weekly injects) and 125mg Tren EOD (every other day) for about 8 weeks or so.
Definitly look into PCT and take the time to learn about Nolvadex, Arimidex, and clomid.
My question is how much per week should I inject?
Well, read the Faq I've put up.. that should tell you my oppinion on how much to do specificly each week.
Sorry I wasnt clear... I was wondering if my weight (300) might change how much I use. It seems that alot of supplementation is based on what you weigh.
Thanks for your help and input.
Well, read the Faq I've put up.. that should tell you my oppinion on how much to do specificly each week.
Sorry I wasnt clear... I was wondering if my weight (300) might change how much I use. It seems that alot of supplementation is based on what you weigh.
Thanks for your help and input.
Thanks for your very helpful, informative post, Phreezer!
Phreezer (and anyone willing to help), I am very interested in starting your Cycle One. I'm a little nervous about the injecting part because I don't wanna eff anything up. spotinjections.com really helped along with your explanation, although I'm a little confused about the aspiration stage and how to determine if you have done that part right.
As for the Standard Recovery Cycle, I'm confused on that as well. I just need to be using ONE of the ones you are suggesting, right? i.e. use only Nolvadex at the end of the cycle?
Also, where do you recommend buying steroids online Phreezer? What are reputable places? I was looking at one the other day and I checked back and it's turned into a bicylce parts website! lol so yeah last thing anyone needs is a scam!
thanks again, hope you can answer my questions!
Phreezer (and anyone willing to help), I am very interested in starting your Cycle One. I'm a little nervous about the injecting part because I don't wanna eff anything up. spotinjections.com really helped along with your explanation, although I'm a little confused about the aspiration stage and how to determine if you have done that part right.
As for the Standard Recovery Cycle, I'm confused on that as well. I just need to be using ONE of the ones you are suggesting, right? i.e. use only Nolvadex at the end of the cycle?
Also, where do you recommend buying steroids online Phreezer? What are reputable places? I was looking at one the other day and I checked back and it's turned into a bicylce parts website! lol so yeah last thing anyone needs is a scam!
thanks again, hope you can answer my questions!
1. Select a site on the outer upper arm, anterior thigh, abdomen or upper buttocks without excessive pigment, nodules, lesions or hair. Select a site that has not recently been used.
2. Cleanse area with an alcohol swab, wiping with firm pressure from injection site outward in a circular motion. Allow skin to dry.
3. Hold needle in the dominant hand like a dart or pencil.
4. Pull cover straight off the needle with non-dominant hand. Use the thumb and forefinger of the same hand to grab and bunch the area surrounding the injection site.
5. With dominant hand, inject the needle quickly at a 45-90 degree angle depending on the amount of fatty tissue and its turgor and length of the needle. A dart-like motion is least uncomfortable.
6. After needle is inserted, release skin with non-dominent hand. Place hand at end of the barrel to steady it. Slide dominant hand to barrel.
7. pull back on the plunger about a half to one inch for 5 seconds to aspirate for blood. (look for a small airbubble to come into the syringe barrel while pulling back, if blood comes into the syringe barrel while pulling back on the plunger, remove needle and try again.
8. Inject medication slowly.
9. Withdraw needle quickly at the same angle it which it was inserted.
10. Massage area gently with alcohol swab if indicated. (Do not massage hcg HGH or insulin if doing aSubcutaneous injection.)
11. Discard needle in sharps container without recapping.
NEXT answer... Yes, you only need to be using one of the PCT recovery cycles I mentioned...
I am not a drug dealer nor am I a hook up for drug deals... This site is for role playing purposes only... what you do on your own is no concern or business of mine.
2. Cleanse area with an alcohol swab, wiping with firm pressure from injection site outward in a circular motion. Allow skin to dry.
3. Hold needle in the dominant hand like a dart or pencil.
4. Pull cover straight off the needle with non-dominant hand. Use the thumb and forefinger of the same hand to grab and bunch the area surrounding the injection site.
5. With dominant hand, inject the needle quickly at a 45-90 degree angle depending on the amount of fatty tissue and its turgor and length of the needle. A dart-like motion is least uncomfortable.
6. After needle is inserted, release skin with non-dominent hand. Place hand at end of the barrel to steady it. Slide dominant hand to barrel.
7. pull back on the plunger about a half to one inch for 5 seconds to aspirate for blood. (look for a small airbubble to come into the syringe barrel while pulling back, if blood comes into the syringe barrel while pulling back on the plunger, remove needle and try again.
8. Inject medication slowly.
9. Withdraw needle quickly at the same angle it which it was inserted.
10. Massage area gently with alcohol swab if indicated. (Do not massage hcg HGH or insulin if doing aSubcutaneous injection.)
11. Discard needle in sharps container without recapping.
NEXT answer... Yes, you only need to be using one of the PCT recovery cycles I mentioned...
I am not a drug dealer nor am I a hook up for drug deals... This site is for role playing purposes only... what you do on your own is no concern or business of mine.
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Phreezer said:
THANKS so much, I appreciate all the detailed help! Now I need to use a new syringe everytime right? For cycle one how many syringes/needles should I order, and do I order the syringes with the needles and also a seperate order of needles?
For the PCT recovery cycle..I wanna do the Nolvadex one. So I start this the first day after my last injection? I remember once hearing that you wait three weeks until after your last injection because the injected testosterone will still be in your system (thus making the Nolvadex useless)? Is that true, if not lemme know the exact protocol! And also are their certain body types that are more prone to Gyno...I mean I'm pretty lean and am closer to the skinny side. And by gyno I'm guessing this is not just big prominent pecs but actual get a bra boobs? lol
also just for clarification...as a novice after getting off of cycle one I need to wait another eight weeks before I start another cylce?
again THANKS...
oh and...the syringe will fit all 250 cc's right?
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You just do the math bro.. You figure up the half life of the steroid that you used... You take the the total number of injections that you took... it's not that hard.. that will tell you when the test will clear your system..
A good rule of thumb is Take as long off as you were on.. Eight weeks sounds pretty good for most people though..
250mg.. Not cc's... a cc is the same as a ML
Take care,
Phreezer
A good rule of thumb is Take as long off as you were on.. Eight weeks sounds pretty good for most people though..
250mg.. Not cc's... a cc is the same as a ML
Take care,
Phreezer
Fat Freddy
New Member
I'm sold on the benefit to side-effect ratio of test and dianabol, but I still have some concerns about using deca right now.
Can test and dianabol be combined to create a productive cycle without adding deca? I ask because I noticed you specified deca in both #2 and #3, but left out any more advanced choices without deca.
Are there any substitutes for deca which don't affect libido/sexual performance as much?
Thanks for your extremely helpful reply in advance.
Can test and dianabol be combined to create a productive cycle without adding deca? I ask because I noticed you specified deca in both #2 and #3, but left out any more advanced choices without deca.
Are there any substitutes for deca which don't affect libido/sexual performance as much?
Thanks for your extremely helpful reply in advance.
First let me start by saying...GREAT Site! I have learned a lot.
However, after reading until I can't see. I do have a couple of newbie questions.
I'm 35, 5'6 165 and never done AAS. I was thinking starting off with 500mg of Sustanon, 50 mg of Proviron, 10 mg of Winstrol for 8 weeks and then end weeks 9 and 10 with H.C.G.
Do I need to consider anything else to minimize acne, or man boobs..ewww.
I am also going Mexico to pick up my supplies...any idea what is a "normal" price down there? Are AAS like Cuban's...ok to have as long as you didn't buy them? Will I be hassled by Customs coming back across? Am I better off mailing them home?
Thanks again,
However, after reading until I can't see. I do have a couple of newbie questions.
I'm 35, 5'6 165 and never done AAS. I was thinking starting off with 500mg of Sustanon, 50 mg of Proviron, 10 mg of Winstrol for 8 weeks and then end weeks 9 and 10 with H.C.G.
Do I need to consider anything else to minimize acne, or man boobs..ewww.
I am also going Mexico to pick up my supplies...any idea what is a "normal" price down there? Are AAS like Cuban's...ok to have as long as you didn't buy them? Will I be hassled by Customs coming back across? Am I better off mailing them home?
Thanks again,
You can find the answers to all your questions using the search feature...
I have no idea what to tell you wrt to crossing the border. I do not help peope obtain drugs.
I have no idea what to tell you wrt to crossing the border. I do not help peope obtain drugs.
