Plateau at 200mg test a week + 200mg deca, just added 300mg of equipoise per week

[Rtaym224]

I have never run EQ before. On 200mg of test a week and not willing to go higher, on 200mg nandrolone split into two injections a week not willing to go higher.

So I introduced something relatively mild I thought EQ at 300mg a week might be worth a try. How will addding EQ at 300 a week benefit me? How long should I run it?

 

[Evom1]

Not sure what your goal is. If the goal is to grow and you hit a plateu, increase calorie intake

 

[Rtaym224]

Not sure what your goal is. If the goal is to grow and you hit a plateu, increase calorie intake

Goal is to continue to grow and put on size. Plateau at 200mg test 200mg nandrolone a week. I’m a hard gainer

I’ve tried increasing caloric intake. My nutrition is on point. I burn 1350 cals a day In the gym my basal metabolic rate is 1950 cals burned a day at rest…
currently taking in 3900 calories per day 315g of protein all from food..

I’m 172lbs @ 12.8% looking to be 200lbs 14% max, ideally, 13%

I need quicker recovery times and more strength. What compound should I introduce? Will 300mg of EQ a week give me strength gains? I chose EQ on a whim and because I believe it is fairly mild.

 

[Chips7]

U just need to eat more, 300mg EQ will change nothing at your problems

 

[Evom1]

You're only eating 3900 calories and you're wondering why you're not gaining weight? Bro I have female clients on more calories than that. Get your calorie intake closer to 5000, push the fucking carbs.

You could up it to 1000mg eq and 500mg deca and you won't see shit for gains if you don't increase your food.

What compound should you introduce? Potatoes, stack that with rice

 

[Rido]

Eat more... You can say you plateaued when it was nothing. But fat you gained..

Eat some donuts and milk shakes if you are truly a hard gainer and can't put on any fat..

 

[Rido]

You also just made another thread that you are only going to do a couple more cycles... Do you think you are gonna hit 200 lbs on a couple more cycles with little fat gain??

 

[Evom1]

You also just made another thread that you are only going to do a couple more cycles... Do you think you are gonna hit 200 lbs on a couple more cycles with little fat gain??

People don't want to hear the truth.

Easy example OP for calories
Post workout have about 120g cereal (that's around 4cups) 50g protein, and 20g pb

 

[aufzz]

200mg test 200mg deca, you trying to get into the bikini class? Okay jokes aside, but why would you want to add 300 EQ instead of just upping the test?

i dont know if this is your first cycle but it kinda sounds like it, test alone would have been completly enough.

Also you are saying you are eating 600 kcal in surplus with a total of 315g protein - you know that legit doesent mean shit when your muscle glycogen storage is in the negative...

So how are your carbs?

Next point is the "1350" kcal burned during gym, where did you pull that number? are you doing an hour of Cardio while bulking???

"1950" maintenance kcal sounds also dumb, the AVERAGE male is burning 2000-2500 - now keep in mind you go to the gym, so you have more muscles which need to maintained.

To me it sounds like you are eating not as much as you should, or you think you eat more than you actually do. Also sorry but saying "i eat 315g of protein" doesent mean shit, because in general you should always eat high amounts of Carbs while bulking. And 315g of protein on not even 80kg of bodyweight is literally a hard overkill.

TLDR: the extra gear wont do shit and the 300EQ is a dumb idea in general with your current stack.

try to get around 250 Protein and 450 carbs daily and up it every week by a small amount

And sorry for the Harsh truth, but you can legit be on a gram of test, a gram of tren, 10 iu of HGH and 20 iu of insulin, nothing will grow if your diet is dogshit

 

[Rtaym224]

I can up calories easily. Thought I was gaining steadily as it was, and I have been. I’ve put on quite a bit of muscle so far.

I’ll increase caloric intake and drop EQ.

 

[ImHereForBothReasons]

I can up calories easily. Thought I was gaining steadily as it was, and I have been. I’ve put on quite a bit of muscle so far.

I’ll increase caloric intake and drop EQ.

I’m going to be that guy and ask: which is it, did you plateau, or are you gaining steadily?

Perhaps you mean that your strength has plateaued?

 

[Rtaym224]

I’m going to be that guy and ask: which is it, did you plateau, or are you gaining steadily?

Perhaps you mean that your strength has plateaued?

Strength has hit a plateau cannot increase weight or reps. Had been gaining steadily and quickly on test and nandrolone.

 

[aufzz]

Strength has hit a plateau cannot increase weight or reps. Had been gaining steadily and quickly on test and nandrolone.

well this mostlikely indicates that you may just overtrain yourself/dont rest (aka sleep) enough

 

[Evom1]

Strength has hit a plateau cannot increase weight or reps. Had been gaining steadily and quickly on test and nandrolone.

You told us your goals were size, not strength. Which is it? Prioritize. That's like dieting down to get shredded and complaining you lost strength.

 

[Rido]

I am really lost with your cycle history and current stats. have you been on AAS for 2? 3? 4?

I’m 172lbs @ 12.8% looking to be 200lbs 14% max, ideally, 13%

I’m a hard gainer but with hard work eating a lot of the right food at 5’7” I’ve reached 190lbs at 12.6%.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

“Hard gainer”

Tell me you don’t eat enough without telling me you don’t eat enough. Exactly what I expected to find here. Drugs will never substitute for food and they’re the LAST dial to turn when progress slows.

 

[Evom1]

“Hard gainer”

Tell me you don’t eat enough without telling me you don’t eat enough. Exactly what I expected to find here. Drugs will never substitute for food and they’re the LAST dial to turn when progress slows.

I'm willing to bet this guy right here would be emaciated on 3900 calories lol. Keep killing it man!!!

 

[Rtaym224]

well this mostlikely indicates that you may just overtrain yourself/dont rest (aka sleep) enough

My sleep has been suffering I have a torn acl, torn minuscus left knee; torn muscle in my leg from ankle up the side of my chin, torn ligaments and tendons in ankle and foot they require surgery when I’m out of my cast and leg immobilizer.


I added some rx sleeping pills and am getting 8.5-9 hrs sleep per night now. Increasing calories 800 cal a day after this thread.

I typically when putting on size eat 6000-6800 cals a day but doing that adds too much unwanted body fat

 

[Mac11wildcat]

My sleep has been suffering I have a torn acl, torn minuscus left knee; torn muscle in my leg from ankle up the side of my chin, torn ligaments and tendons in ankle and foot they require surgery when I’m out of my cast and leg immobilizer.


I added some rx sleeping pills and am getting 8.5-9 hrs sleep per night now. Increasing calories 800 cal a day after this thread.

I typically when putting on size eat 6000-6800 cals a day but doing that adds too much unwanted body fat

That’s why you don’t go straight to 6800 from scratch…

 

[Rtaym224]

I am really lost with your cycle history and current stats. have you been on AAS for 2? 3? 4?

I don’t keep a stopwatch I believe my test use started in 2016-2017. I used just that for a year and a half. Mid 2018 I introduce nandrolone and become very familiar with it and my rx for it. On off use of trenbolone, several 5 week 30-50mg a day cycles of dbol, I couldn’t give an accurate guess there were also about two eight month periods during this time where I stopped all steroids and test completely and fully returned to baseline high test levels without trt and recovered sperm count fully.

I would say ass on off four years best guess for you bud