Post Cycle Sides

[BigNick002]

I just finished my pct about a week ago, came off a 10 week cycle of Pharmacom Test E 500mg/wk. Did not use an AI during cycle, because i didn't feel i needed it. I did a clomid only PCT with 100/50/25/25, i know its a shitty pct, im adding nolva in next PCT. About 2 weeks into my pct i started to feel depressed, high anxiety, sometimes i feel like im gonna cry for no reason, and really out of it, almost like im high all the time. It started to freak me out after a few days, now its off and on. Idk if its low E2 or high, or whether its just the clomid messing with me. Im getting bloods done in the next couple weeks, just wanted to get some opinions.

I attached my mid-cycle bloods, they were taken around week 8 of the cycle though because I was really busy.

 

[Sk8man101]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say your lethargy symptoms are coming from low t.
Hopefully your pct was pharm grade.
Not to gay it up but how's the morning wood?

 

[Sk8man101]

Low t, combined with the sides of high dose clomid will make you feel flat out shitty there is no question about that.
I'd say it's even amplified cause your used to the feeling of being on cycle.
Power threw man!

 

[Sk8man101]

Oh I forgot to ask how many days did you wait to start your pct?

 

[BigNick002]

Low t, combined with the sides of high dose clomid will make you feel flat out shitty there is no question about that.
I'd say it's even amplified cause your used to the feeling of being on cycle.
Power threw man!

Mourning wood is actually pretty good, so idk if its low T.. i think its an E2 imbalance or the clomid fucking with me. although wouldnt e2 have leveled out by now?

 

[BigNick002]

Oh I forgot to ask how many days did you wait to start your pct?

I started after 4 weeks

 

[Wood4days]

PCT is very important. If you don't do a proper PCT it can mess up your body permanently.

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[BigNick002]

PCT is very important. If you don't do a proper PCT it can mess up your body permanently.

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thanks for the positive response....but i dont think my PCT was that bad at such a low dose of test. also i noticed my test to E2 ratio on my mid cycle bloods was lower than my precycle ratio. Went from 42 to 40 so maybe its low e2 but idk why it would be low

 

[Sk8man101]

thanks for the positive response....but i dont think my PCT was that bad at such a low dose of test. also i noticed my test to E2 ratio on my mid cycle bloods was lower than my precycle ratio. Went from 42 to 40 so maybe its low e2 but idk why it would be low

2 weeks just isn't enough time. Right about 2 weeks was when I started finally feeling normal again.
Like I said power threw, get bloods a month or two later. If your not recovered then blast some Hcg and try another pct this time with clomid and nolva.
At least that is what I would try to do.
Pct sucks man, you lose your gains and feel like shit. It's part of the game if you want to have a better chance at having kids.

 

[BigNick002]

2 weeks just isn't enough time. Right about 2 weeks was when I started finally feeling normal again.
Like I said power threw, get bloods a month or two later. If your not recovered then blast some Hcg and try another pct this time with clomid and nolva.
At least that is what I would try to do.
Pct sucks man, you lose your gains and feel like shit. It's part of the game if you want to have a better chance at having kids.

Yeah good advice, im currently waiting on clomid and nolva, so ill have some. I would fucking hate having to do it again. and its gonna be worse adding nolva. Im literally going insane from this shit, might have to cut clomid out and use something else.

 

[Wood4days]

2 weeks just isn't enough time. Right about 2 weeks was when I started finally feeling normal again.
Like I said power threw, get bloods a month or two later. If your not recovered then blast some Hcg and try another pct this time with clomid and nolva.
At least that is what I would try to do.
Pct sucks man, you lose your gains and feel like shit. It's part of the game if you want to have a better chance at having kids.

I'm on my 3rd week of PCT right now. I lost zero strength and lost 4 lbs out of 15lbs in body weight.

I don't feel like shit. I feel normal just how I would feel when not not gear.


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[Sk8man101]

Yeah good advice, im currently waiting on clomid and nolva, so ill have some. I would fucking hate having to do it again. and its gonna be worse adding nolva. Im literally going insane from this shit, might have to cut clomid out and use something else.

Your young so age is on your side.
Your body just might be a little harder to recover than some so be mindful in the future. But it's only been 2 weeks man just chill and see what happens I'll bet by your last day of pct you'll be feeling a whole lot better.

 

[BigNick002]

I'm on my 3rd week of PCT right now. I lost zero strength and lost 4 lbs out of 15lbs in body weight.

I don't feel like shit. I feel normal just how I would feel when not not gear.


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what are you using for PCT, i need to get some of that shit

 

[Wood4days]

what are you using for PCT, i need to get some of that shit

I did HCG on cycle 500iu/week split

PCT nolvadex and clomid


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[BigNick002]

Your young so age is on your side.
Your body just might be a little harder to recover than some so be mindful in the future. But it's only been 2 weeks man just chill and see what happens I'll bet by your last day of pct you'll be feeling a whole lot better.

Im done my pct, just started feeling sides 2 weeks in. I finished pct about a week ago

 

[Sk8man101]

Im done my pct, just started feeling sides 2 weeks in. I finished pct about a week ago

Aw that sucks man, I miss read your first post. (Edit: first sentence too I must be retarded)
I wonder still if your clomid was bunk. Just wait a while and get bloods it's the only way to know forsure.

 

[Wood4days]

I just finished my pct about a week ago, came off a 10 week cycle of Pharmacom Test E 500mg/wk. Did not use an AI during cycle, because i didn't feel i needed it. I did a clomid only PCT with 100/50/25/25, i know its a shitty pct, im adding nolva in next PCT. About 2 weeks into my pct i started to feel depressed, high anxiety, sometimes i feel like im gonna cry for no reason, and really out of it, almost like im high all the time. It started to freak me out after a few days, now its off and on. Idk if its low E2 or high, or whether its just the clomid messing with me. Im getting bloods done in the next couple weeks, just wanted to get some opinions.

I attached my mid-cycle bloods, they were taken around week 8 of the cycle though because I was really busy.

Blood work looks good. Looks normal to me. Estrogen a little high. Typically you want it between 25-30 but if you don't feel any sides without using AI then it's your call. Some people don't need AI and do well with high estrogen.

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[BigNick002]

Blood work looks good. Looks normal to me. Estrogen a little high. Typically you want it between 25-30 but if you don't feel any sides without using AI then it's your call. Some people don't need AI and do well with high estrogen.

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Do you mean 25-30 reading on test results or test/e2 ratio of 25-30.

 

[BigNick002]

Aw that sucks man, I miss read your first post. (Edit: first sentence too I must be retarded)
I wonder still if your clomid was bunk. Just wait a while and get bloods it's the only way to know forsure.

The clomid was clostilbegyt.

 

[DrinkFlintWater]

When my estro is high, I walk around in a daze or even high like you say. A little bit of Aromasin will snap me out of it but too much aromasin will amplify the shitty feeling. All about finding the right balance.
Also, I dont PCT anymore but when I did and used Clomid, I think i was having either seizures in my sleep and or sleep paralysis coupled with walking around with cloudy eyesight. Nolvadex became my go to after that with no problems. I actually still use it on B&C.