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[Ryan Veneficus]

Appreciate the push, brother. We’re still sticking to our word but I’m going to be blunt: we’ve lost a countless amount of product over the last 4 weeks. Over 6 figures worth. Think about that. Getting raws here right now is a war. That’s not an excuse, it’s the reality. I honestly wish these testing standards had been pushed this hard when the raw situation wasn’t this dire… but I digress. One can easily argue that this is the time to push these tests and I would also agree!

So the commitment hasn’t changed. The pace is just staggered to match what we can reliably land and allocate. Thanks for riding with us while we navigate this mess. Good news is Jano will have a whole batch of results this week, perfect timing to match batches that are almost out. Raws included! Test U250 will drop as soon as these results come in.

Last note: West NovaPure stoppers are being rolled in by year-end so every vial is turned around for the New Year.

What about the test E, eq, and others that were sent to Jano in early September? Does Jano have them?

 

[Tdeck81]

FYI I went back through every jano-ed anadrol in the Lab Analysis forum and the large majority of them are spot on, but I haven't cross-referenced that data with known fillers used by each source yet. Normally I'd chalk this up to undermixed powder pre-capping. The monkeywrenches in this theory are the two different sources in two different capsule types, and that we don't have the normal 3-cap sample size for the tests.

I've been on a superdrol kick lately and dunno if I have any ana in the apocalypse bunker but I'll check. We could probably put together a team and raid @AllGoodThings to find some to send off, but if I know that guy at all, he's well fortified for such an incident. Very risky.

Now you are tagging the guy who performs tests for us on the sources thread. Could you be any more lost???? Testing thread Readalot. Can you not read??

First the vendor mentioned the validity of the Jano test. It’s only fair to hear directly from the horses’s mouth. Second another member was the first to tag Jano in the discussion. @readalot was tagging Jano for clarification on the previously ask question that could potential clear the matter up. Let’s be fair here and mis categorize the situation

 

[AllGoodThings]

FYI I went back through every jano-ed anadrol in the Lab Analysis forum and the large majority of them are spot on, but I haven't cross-referenced that data with known fillers used by each source yet. Normally I'd chalk this up to undermixed powder pre-capping. The monkeywrenches in this theory are the two different sources in two different capsule types, and that we don't have the normal 3-cap sample size for the tests.

I've been on a superdrol kick lately and dunno if I have any ana in the apocalypse bunker but I'll check. We could probably put together a team and raid @AllGoodThings to find some to send off, but if I know that guy at all, he's well fortified for such an incident. Very risky.

I've got about 3,000ish Anavar and 3,700 Anadrol, but they're literally all from one source, same with the Winstrol, so not much use for testing, unfortunately. If you show up in force, I'll give up some Avanar, my kidney problems mean I probably won't be able to use all that I have anyhow, unfortunately. Not a huge fan of orals anyhow

 

[AllGoodThings]

Appreciate that!

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O2 absorbers:

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Dessicant packs:

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[Bandern]

I've got about 3,000ish Anavar and 3,700 Anadrol, but they're literally all from one source, same with the Winstrol, so not much use for testing, unfortunately. If you show up in force, I'll give up some Avanar, my kidney problems mean I probably won't be able to use all that I have anyhow, unfortunately

I’ll call off the raid for only 1 pallet of test e

 

[readalot]

These are the 3 vendors (incl primal)

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytical

For reference i believe the 25mgs tested out fine.

I was curious who was the vendor who had no steroids detected, apparently it was Neo when he first started out lol. He was filling capsules with baking soda to see how much AAS API was needed.

Post in thread 'Neo Anabolics (US DOMESTIC)'

Sep 19, 2024

Which math was used for your formulations? If you post up your calcs, you can probably get a peer review before heading to the lab.

Weigh empty capsule. Fill body with baking soda. Weigh filled capsule.

empty cap = 100mg
cap with baking soda = 880mg

880mg-100mg=780mg baking soda

empty cap = 100mg
cap with dbol = 340mg

340mg-100mg=240mg dbol

780mg filler density
240mg active density

25mg dbol=unknown mg filler
240mg dbol=780mg filler

25mg dbol x 780mg filler=240mg dbol x unknown mg filler

(25mg dbol x 780mg filler) / 240mg dbol = unknown mg filler

unknown mg...

• NeoAnabolics

Post in thread 'Neo Anabolics (US DOMESTIC)'

Oct 29, 2024

Right.
What exactly happened with the last one?

Could of made the mistake of sending caps that were weighed with filler instead of the mixed ones. Can’t think of anything else.

• NeoAnabolics

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How is your liver values on it?
I'm planning to run a inj sdrol with glutathione log in future.

This is where it left off.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/neo-anabolics-us-domestic.134426668/post-3363192

I am hopeful we get some clarification to avoid any confusion in the future.

 

[Dial It In]

I took this as a broader statement, not specifically the current anadrol testing

For example, in one of the GH threads, someone was saying things about GH degradation, and it caught on -- lots of members started parroting it -- and it was disproved with Jano testing and [more importantly imo] IGF1 testing

...but the testing came too late, once the seed was planted, members still ran with it... this is the point I think Primal was making, "wait for the data"

I don’t disagree with waiting for data. We however already had the data on the anadrol in question. Thus the comment on the intent isn’t to spook. Thought I was clarifying as I only spoke to the Anadrol and not all items. It is unfortunate if some have gotten spooked seeing how it’s just a continued discussion of previous testing.

 

[Photon]

I've got about 3,000ish Anavar and 3,700 Anadrol, but they're literally all from one source, same with the Winstrol, so not much use for testing, unfortunately. If you show up in force, I'll give up some Avanar, my kidney problems mean I probably won't be able to use all that I have anyhow, unfortunately

Var for trick or treat sounds pretty good.

 

[Dial It In]

I've got about 3,000ish Anavar and 3,700 Anadrol, but they're literally all from one source, same with the Winstrol, so not much use for testing, unfortunately. If you show up in force, I'll give up some Avanar, my kidney problems mean I probably won't be able to use all that I have anyhow, unfortunately. Not a huge fan of orals anyhow

What’s the dose on those lol. I’d like to just see how that would math out if a fella was to take let’s say 75mg of var a day on what that days of supply looks like.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I've got about 3,000ish Anavar and 3,700 Anadrol, but they're literally all from one source, same with the Winstrol, so not much use for testing, unfortunately. If you show up in force, I'll give up some Avanar, my kidney problems mean I probably won't be able to use all that I have anyhow, unfortunately. Not a huge fan of orals anyhow

Var for trick or treat sounds pretty good.

always wanted a candy jar full of methenolone acetate tabs for the coffee table in my man cave but var would be pretty cool too

 

[Tdeck81]

so not much use for testing

Absolutely not, they are all degraded and should be handed over for proper disposal. By proper disposal yes I mean me

 

[AllGoodThings]

Absolutely not, they are all degraded and should be handed over for proper disposal. By proper disposal yes I mean me

I'm not even going to use these Anavar, and it sucks because there's no way to get rid of them that I'm comfortable with. Just too much risk with this stuff, not at all worth it. Everything I buy is for me, and if it ends up I have stuff I can't use for whatever reason, it's going to get wasted, ultimately.

 

[AllGoodThings]

always wanted a candy jar full of methenolone acetate tabs for the coffee table in my man cave but var would be pretty cool too

I've got a few of those too, actually, that I bought on a whim

 

[AllGoodThings]

What’s the dose on those lol. I’d like to just see how that would math out if a fella was to take let’s say 75mg of var a day on what that days of supply looks like.

Vars are 50mg, drol is 25mg, winny is 50mg. Orals are not my thing, so these were mostly an afterthought for occasional preworkout use. Even for pwo, I prefer injectables like methyltrienolone, Superdrol and TNE

 

[BigDadd7]

I'm not even going to use these Anavar, and it sucks because there's no way to get rid of them that I'm comfortable with. Just too much risk with this stuff, not at all worth it. Everything I buy is for me, and if it ends up I have stuff I can't use for whatever reason, it's going to get wasted, ultimately.

You don't have a single meathead friend?

 

[readalot]

Apes, this one is on us. Our Anadrol 50mg just came back at under 34mg. I don’t know how long it’s been underdosed, and I’m not going to pretend otherwise. We’re here to take accountability and not hide things.

Anadrol 50mg --> 33.92mg

Lesson learned: we’re scrapping multiple dosages for this product and keeping it simple so mistakes like this don’t happen again. We’re also tightening our internal checks and won’t post a product on the website until the matching batch has test results in hand.

Flame us if you need to. It stings, but it will make us better and tighter in the long run.

If you ordered Anadrol 50, we will replace it with an equal amount of Anadrol 25 plus an extra bottle on top. Email support@primalpharma.io with your order number and we will take care of you immediately.

As an apology for letting you down, we’re running 35% off Anadrol 25mg for the rest of the week.

Also for the next 24 hours we will run 10% off Test E and Mast P and 20% off Anavar, Dianabol, Arimidex, NPP, Deca.

I’m sorry, genuinely. Thank you for holding us to a higher standard. We will be better.

Catching up here. Was sodium bicarbonate used as filler for both the 25s and 50s?

 

[sionnach]

Catching up here. Was sodium bicarbonate used as filler for both the 25s and 50s?

Pretty sure that's the fill in all their caps. That's what it tastes like dripping down the back of my nose, anyway.

 

[AllGoodThings]

You don't have a single meathead friend?

No, not anyone close by. I don't socialize much at the gym, not really looking for in person friends, so I keep my distance from people. I moved where I did to isolate myself, so I make an effort not to have friends. Just a personal preference. Online people go away when I put down my phone, and I need that buffer with humans lol

 

[JoeTrogan]

Man the PIP from the Sustanon 500 MCT has been crazy. I've pinned all sorts of high concentration stuff (Bold CYP 300, Test CYP 400, Test D 600, etc.) but never gotten pip like this. Tried it 3 times with 0.5ml subq (I always test subq before IM with new sources). All 3 times ended up with HUGE red lumps. One is so big now I can fit my whole hand around it (the other 2 thankfully are dissipating). I'm hoping the Test E 500 isn't this way cause I got way more of that than I did the Sust... Tren E 400 only using 0.1ml (and cut it with low concentration test D) ended up with PIP as well. I've never been someone that's even considered pip a part of the equation before, especially with SUBQ. I just thought people were sensitive. When people gave PIP reports on a source I'd ignore it because I've never been crippled with pip. This sust is another beast though...

I'll come back with a pip report on the Test E incase anyone cares to know. Really hope it works out cause I got a ton of the Test E vials

 

[readalot]

Pretty sure that's the fill in all their caps. That's what it tastes like dripping down the back of my nose, anyway.

That's what the first post in this thread states. Just wanted to confirm with vendor. Thank you.

Each capsule is filled with pharmaceutical-grade baking soda, which serves as an inert, non-reactive filler.

You may enjoy this...

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00244a027

We will get to the bottom of the potential interference issue. Good to get this figured out so we don't have revisit every year.