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[readalot]

right, my language sucks. it dissolves at 2%



dissolved baking soda per pill if we use 1ml MeOH

20mg

molar mass of anadrol at 50mg 306g/mol

molar mass of baking soda at 20mg(max dissolved possible) 84g/mol


the molar ratio is 1.5

account for ionization.

molar ratio is now 0.015.

you will have 1.5% of 50mg that can potentially see a bicarbonate ion.

0.75mg is possibly wrong on the test.

not 50mg-32mg.

thats atleast how i did the calculations

Agree with your math and your setup with 1 ml of MeOH. Now go back and look at the reaction of MeOH and oxymetholone in the kinetics paper I shared. What is the other product made in equimolar amount to the MeOH-oxymetholone adduct?

See eqn. 1, p. 1994.

 

[Rhynosaurus]

Pretend for a second I'm not a chemistry major, and my business is completely different. Long story short is Primal didn't test his raws before sending them out?

 

[dinfar1337]

MeOH and oxymetholone in the kinetics paper I shared. What is the other product made in equimolar amount to the MeOH-oxymetholone adduct?

See eqn. 1, p. 1994.

so we get more water, and now we're fucked. although i cant imagine it realses enough to be a issue?

 

[Photon]

Pretend for a second I'm not a chemistry major, and my business is completely different. Long story short is Primal didn't test his raws before sending them out?

There are 3 vendors who's testing are all under by relative similar amounts for the Adrol 50.

Primal
MuscleCandy
Axle

Primal mentioned that the solvent used by Jano may cause the AAS API to degrade, hence Jano was tagged to provide clarification and now there's an ongoing discussion if that's even possible (Yet there's no issue with the adrol 25).

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I think the elephant in the room is Jano’s testing of the Anadrol. I was told that another source sent in their Anadrol 50’s and it came back as ‘nothing detected’. Keep in mind this sources 25’s tested at 25.something with the same raw.

Again, he sent in another batch, told me there was in fact Anadrol in there, without a shadow of doubt. Same raw as his 25’s and bam - “nothing detected.”

He asked Jano why and couldn’t get a clear answer. Maybe the filler. Maybe what they used to test it at higher dose? I’m not sure. But something to think about.

Depending on solvent being used...

• Primal_Pharma

 

[dinfar1337]

Pretend for a second I'm not a chemistry major, and my business is completely different. Long story short is Primal didn't test his raws before sending them out?

just 2 people with autism discussing. nothing special here, its quite enjoyable i would say.

thats also because im getting all the breadcrumbs from old work which have been looked into. im the only one eating here hahahaha

 

[Variant82]

 

[readalot]

so we get more water, and now we're fucked. although i cant imagine it realses enough to be a issue?

That's my question. That water now changes the ionization picture. Does it change it enough? Doubtful, but just playing devil's advocate.

That's why I brought up the derivatization and GCMS. Problem (if there is one) solved, haha.

 

[dinfar1337]

chemistry major

forget university, i failed chemistry in high school.

i simply cant study anything if im not geniuenly interested in it.

That's why I brought up the derivatization and GCMS. Problem (if there is one) solved, haha.

how can love and laugh at a message at the same time

 

[readalot]

forget university, i failed chemistry in high school.

So just 140-160 IQ. Good for you Brother! Nice.

 

[BamaCrazy]

That's my question. That water now changes the ionization picture. Does it change it enough? Doubtful, but just playing devil's advocate.

That's why I brought up the derivatization and GCMS. Problem (if there is one) solved, haha.

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Just keep on spamming Readalot.

 

[dinfar1337]

So just 140-160 IQ. Good for you Brother! Nice.

i wish. programming has sadly humbled me on my creativity.

i just decided not to study for the experiment back then. didnt even wanna waste 1 minute on something i was not interested in. only thing i did in chemistry class was looking at some pretty girl and she ended dropping out anyway fuck her.

i did make my move tho many times, didnt get rejected but she was a hot and cold bitch. she wanted me to chase her so i just ended up giving up because all of our friends knew we were talking and i had too big of a ego.

 

[Anonymous member 154437]

There are 3 vendors who's testing are all under by relative similar amounts for the Adrol 50.

Primal
MuscleCandy
Axle

All three also have the same 61 compounds for sale, all three offer gso and mct, all three offer different concentration options on everything as well as 10mL and 20ml vials. Primal and muscle candy have the same vials and almost same exact labels. Not very surprising to see all three are having the same problem on the same product

 

[Rhynosaurus]

Just keep on spamming Readalot.

Bro we're on the same page of not wanting another @readalot crusade. But he's 100% right that Primal agreed to the advanced testing, and he hasn't come thru.


Edit: he's not spamming the board w that ask, it's what Primal agreed.

 

[AlexDavis43]

forget university, i failed chemistry in high school.

I did too

funny how that works out sometimes

 

[BamaCrazy]

Bro we're on the same page of not wanting another @readalot crusade. But he's 100% right that Primal agreed to the advanced testing, and he hasn't come thru.


Edit: he's not spamming the board w that ask, it's what Primal agreed.

I mainly talking about the last 10-15 post about pills, solubility, ionization and MeOH. Two people going back and forth talking about their nerdy interests that belong on the testing thread. Hell, probably not even there.

 

[dinfar1337]

I did too

funny how that works out sometimes

funny the education i picked after that i had 2 paths and both were heavily biochemical.

and now i work in 100% biochemical field

 

[sionnach]

just 2 people with autism discussing. nothing special here, its quite enjoyable i would say.

This is who I'm imagining you two as tonight, to keep myself entertained.
Tomorrow:

 

[Yonith]

I mainly talking about the last 10-15 post about pills, solubility, ionization and MeOH. Two people going back and forth talking about their nerdy interests that belong on the testing thread. Hell, probably not even there.

Some of us find this interesting. As it’s been suggested to you before, maybe you should just utilize the ignore function.

 

[AlexDavis43]

funny the education i picked after that i had 2 paths and both were heavily biochemical.

and now i work in 100% biochemical field

I'm a biochemist in the lab but a freak in the sheets

-that's the tren talking and it doesn't care if it doesn't rhyme

 

[readalot]

forget university, i failed chemistry in high school.

i simply cant study anything if im not geniuenly interested in it.

how can love and laugh at a message at the same time

Question in my mind now is whether Jano HPLC response [with oxymetholone/MeOH and sodium bicarbonate filler] is linear over the 10 to 100 mg range? Spike recoveries at 10, 25, 50, and 100 mg?

Clearly Jano has seen something since he mentioned the issue. Would be hilarious is there is a ceiling on anadrol concentration in MeOH where response saturates. Other peaks on chromatogram?

Anyway, nice talking with you. God made BSTFA for a reason.

Spoiler: "Spammy"... don't click this

https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/BG/en/technical-documents/technical-article/analytical-chemistry/gas-chromatography/the-use-of-derivatization