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[readalot]

For e.g 98.10% vs 98%+.

More like 99% +/- 1% TBF as an example. Although 100.2% +/- 2% would be another example.

Jano uses this "floor +" notation to avoid confusing some folks on the measurement plus / minus confidence interval. Or having to explain a perfectly reasonable measurement of 100.3% purity.

HPLC measurement error on raws is usually quoted as +/- 2% but I imagine on some raws it is tighter than that.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

You won't find anything above 98% because that's how it's reported by default. That's not the actual percentage. You can request for it to be reported in actual values instead. For e.g 98.10% vs 98%+.

Both 98.1 and 100% will be reported as 98%+.

They used to do 98-99% then, no?

 

[Photon]

They used to do 98-99% then, no?

Kain has TRA raws from QSC that's 98%+ but the actual purity was I think 100.3%.

My Test D raws are at 99.4% but also reported as 98%+.

Janoshik Analytical

I mean it doesn't mean much lol, I'm just saying it's how they report it.

 

[Turkeybuilder]

I must have missed some drama in this thread since i’m so new, why is everyone seemingly up this source’s ass when it comes to raws and oils despite clearly good results historically? Almost like some people are waiting/wanting this source to fuck up. I don’t see this on other sources threads

 

[readalot]

I must have missed some drama in this thread since i’m so new, why is everyone seemingly up this source’s ass when it comes to raws and oils despite clearly good results historically? Almost like some people are waiting/wanting this source to fuck up. I don’t see this on other sources threads

We are entering with a clear purpose: to set a higher standard and lead the way in performance supplementation. We are not here to follow trends. We are here to redefine them.

 

[readalot]

I must have missed some drama in this thread since i’m so new, why is everyone seemingly up this source’s ass when it comes to raws and oils despite clearly good results historically? Almost like some people are waiting/wanting this source to fuck up. I don’t see this on other sources threads

We don’t just aim to participate in this space—we intend to set the pace and become the benchmark by which others are measured.

 

[Photon]

I must have missed some drama in this thread since i’m so new, why is everyone seemingly up this source’s ass when it comes to raws and oils despite clearly good results historically? Almost like some people are waiting/wanting this source to fuck up. I don’t see this on other sources threads

People want to buy but are afraid of buying without test results.
They are worried it goes OOS so they keep pushing for testing.

 

[Turkeybuilder]

People want to buy but are afraid of buying without test results.
They are worried it goes OOS so they keep pushing for testing.

I personally also only buy lab tested oils as well. So I get why people push for testing. Idk it just feels like it’s more than just that in this thread sometimes but maybe that’s how things are on this forum compared to what i’m used to

 

[Photon]

I personally also only buy lab tested oils as well. So I get why people push for testing. Idk it just feels like it’s more than just that in this thread sometimes but maybe that’s how things are on this forum compared to what i’m used to

Combination of several factors i guess.
Multiple CN sources are getting raided.
Other sources are going OOS and increasing MOQ.
People getting worried.

Personally I don't care much about vendor testing as long as they reimburse it, you can send it in, get it tested much faster than waiting for vendors. However with there being alot of fake raws out there, it doesn't do vendors any good if they don't at least test the raws before selling..

 

[readalot]

Idk it just feels like it’s more than just that in this thread sometimes

I take Primal at his word. Great opportunity to move this space and community forward with a sizeable improvement in standards.

His testing reimbursement policy is fantastic. Best in class. Incredible transition from store credit to actual reimbursement with PERSEC crypto.

 

[CHIEF M]

Kain has TRA raws from QSC that's 98%+ but the actual purity was I think 100.3%.

My Test D raws are at 99.4% but also reported as 98%+.

Janoshik Analytical

I mean it doesn't mean much lol, I'm just saying it's how they report it.

Kain is dope

 

[Ferhev]

I love Primal gear. I’ve been using MastP 100 and 200 with no issues at all. I just ordered 5 Test C 250.

I also agree to keep pushing for quality but I think Primal has been incredibly open and pretty much talk with us everyday about any concerns. Let’s keep pushing to raise the bar but understanding that Primal offers a A+ service!

 

[RockyP]

I love Primal gear. I’ve been using MastP 100 and 200 with no issues at all. I just ordered 5 Test C 250.

I also agree to keep pushing for quality but I think Primal has been incredibly open and pretty much talk with us everyday about any concerns. Let’s keep pushing to raise the bar but understanding that Primal offers a A+ service!

I would agree here. The only thing I’d add is I’d like to see more testing of the high conc gear (mastP 200, T500, etc) to be sure there’s no plastic contamination. But like you said Primal has been great.

 

[Ferhev]

I would agree here. The only thing I’d add is I’d like to see more testing of the high conc gear (mastP 200, T500, etc) to be sure there’s no plastic contamination. But like you said Primal has been great.

I agree with you. Testing it’s important and we definitely need it.

 

[Tbaz192]

So much testing talk. Yall were waiting for jano to send the results on everything primal sent. But yet apparently it wasn’t enough for GCMS testing. Cool, where’s the hplc testing then on those samples? Unless I missed something these tests are taking forever.

 

[BigDadd7]

I must have missed some drama in this thread since i’m so new, why is everyone seemingly up this source’s ass when it comes to raws and oils despite clearly good results historically? Almost like some people are waiting/wanting this source to fuck up. I don’t see this on other sources threads

It may be that for some people. I always question the motive behind things.

It's worth noting that primal embraces, and even encourages, the questioning. That's why this source has the most extensive testing and reimbursement.

 

[Tbaz192]

I must have missed some drama in this thread since i’m so new, why is everyone seemingly up this source’s ass when it comes to raws and oils despite clearly good results historically? Almost like some people are waiting/wanting this source to fuck up. I don’t see this on other sources threads

Degraded plastic was found in high concentration Tren 400.

 

[MisterT]

So much testing talk. Yall were waiting for jano to send the results on everything primal sent. But yet apparently it wasn’t enough for GCMS testing. Cool, where’s the hplc testing then on those samples? Unless I missed something these tests are taking forever.

+1 cool you sent more in for GCMS but where is the HPLC on TE250 and the other oils. You said you sent TE250 finished oils beginning of sept but yet still no hplc on that.

 

[Bandern]

Primal rescued my drowning grandmother

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Degraded plastic was found in high concentration Tren 400.

Gotta be precise here. “Degraded plastic was found” is incorrect.

What the GC-MS screening showed was an unidentified peak that elutes where common plasticizers often show up. That’s not the same as confirming degraded plastic. Without a reference standard match, correct ion-ratio criteria, blanks, and an orthogonal confirmation, you can’t call it plastic. It could be column bleed, phthalate carryover from labware, or a solvent artifact. especially with dense oils like Tren 400.