MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[readalot]

Or RTU

https://qcvialz.com/sterile-ready-to-use-vial-kits/498-sterile-20mm-vial-stoppers-triple-bagged-round-bottom-bromobutyl-bag-of-1000.html

Gamma sterilization. Pricier per unit.

Sterile 20mm vial stoppers, manufactured using bromobutyl rubber, washed then gamma-irradiated at a minimum 10 kGy (Cobalt-60) for sterilization.

Sterility and endotoxin testing is performed by an independent 3rd party ISO 17025 certified testing facility in the USA.

Packaged in a double-polyethylene bag with gamma-irradiation indicator on each bag. Each bag is lot labeled for traceability to both your testing documentation for cGMP compliance requirements.

 

[RockyP]

I'm not one to mention another vendor in this thread (and I wont) but there are a few other (much smaller) shops who not only have high quality products but also have upped their game with top of the line stoppers and the customers are gaga over them (I'm one of them). Even if you are not planning to store gear for the long, long term, and even if you store it upright in the proper ambient conditions, etc., my small brain has absorbed enough information on this board where I will seek out vendors using the best / highest quality stoppers that are compatible with BB, and I will gladly pay more and use the compounds they carry even if it is a more limited selection. Also, re: the stoppers, you can send a .223 through them and it wont even look like you pierced it.

 

[Oldhand]

If anyone was ever on the fence if stopper quality was important or not, I’d say their mind is made up now. It matters.

On a side note…. I wonder how much PIP is caused by injecting melted rubber into your buttcheeks….

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Read here.

These were exclusively used based on Primal's post except for the short silicone run.

Now look at the specs on those butyl rubber stoppers. No paperwork or origin info as far as I can see. Compare to the class 6 stoppers I linked to.

I am going to put myself in Primal's shoes on this one. I would be pissed. Goes to show how important stopper formulation and specs are on injection vial stoppers. Fortunately there are very good and extremely cheap alternatives. And I appreciate @Primal_Pharma switching on new vials as soon as possible.

As far as product already out there, you know the drill. Serious risk of stopper falling apart and into your anabolic go-go juice every time you draw. Not even going down the leaching rabbit hole when you invert the vial.

I already emailed them for info on the stoppers

 

[Bandern]

the customers are gaga over them

Never go full gaga

 

[ChokeHldCharlie]

If buying to filter, are there any recommendations on sterilized stopper/vial bundles? If not, individually what would be suggested?

 

[crispybacon!]

And I appreciate @Primal_Pharma switching on new vials as soon as possible.

But are they replacing “as soon as possible”? I feel like this opportunity presented itself some time ago.

 

[Photon]

Read here.

These were exclusively used based on Primal's post except for the short silicone run.

The stoppers aren't even the same.
Mix and match?

Anyone received anything recently?
Share some stopper pics please.







Halloween sale incoming!!

Spoiler: Links

www.medical-and-lab-supplies.com/products/20mm-butyl-rubber-stoppers-for-vials-gray

thinksteroids.com/community/threads/primal-pharma-us-domestic.134430762/post-3623418

thinksteroids.com/community/threads/primal-pharma-us-domestic.134430762/post-3624298

 

[Whistles77]

If buying to filter, are there any recommendations on sterilized stopper/vial bundles? If not, individually what would be suggested?

Really good question. Do we have sterile vial source that has known good long term quality stoppers?

 

[readalot]

If buying to filter, are there any recommendations on sterilized stopper/vial bundles? If not, individually what would be suggested?

https://www.medical-and-lab-supplie...c-10ml-clear-sealed-sterile-glass-vials-qty-1

Can get in packs of 25. These are China manufacture IIRC.

Or

https://www.medical-and-lab-supplie...-clear-sealed-sterile-glass-vial-silver-qty-1

These are made in US.

 

[Oldhand]

But are they replacing “as soon as possible”? I feel like this opportunity presented itself some time ago.

In Primal’s defense. He did switch stoppers once and then we asked him to switch again like a month later—— someone please correct me if I’m wrong.

 

[Photon]

https://www.medical-and-lab-supplie...c-10ml-clear-sealed-sterile-glass-vials-qty-1

Can get in packs of 25. These are China manufacture IIRC.

Or

https://www.medical-and-lab-supplie...-clear-sealed-sterile-glass-vial-silver-qty-1

These are made in US.

Top has PTFE stoppers but bottom one's dont

In Primal’s defense. He did switch stoppers once and then we asked him to switch again like a month later—— someone please correct me if I’m wrong.

My understanding is that the only change that was made, was from using silicone to not using silicone. Either way, based off pics, all are bloating.

 

[readalot]

But are they replacing “as soon as possible”? I feel like this opportunity presented itself some time ago.

I don't know Brother. We talked about this on here in Aug. Just trying to be helpful and offering a constructive path forward.

 

[Yolkedeggwhites]

Brother when TREN A, DHB restock??

 

[readalot]

Top has PTFE stoppers but bottom one's dont



My understanding is that the only change that was made, was from using silicone to not using silicone. Either way, based off pics, all are bloating.

I would be fine with either. Good clarification.

 

[readalot]

The stoppers aren't even the same.
Mix and match?

I ain't going to sleuth it further. Good luck and thanks for sharing.

 

[ChokeHldCharlie]

https://www.medical-and-lab-supplie...c-10ml-clear-sealed-sterile-glass-vials-qty-1

Can get in packs of 25. These are China manufacture IIRC.

Or

https://www.medical-and-lab-supplie...-clear-sealed-sterile-glass-vial-silver-qty-1

These are made in US.

Appreciates the sources.

@Photon I'm assuming PTFE stoppers are the gold standard?

Thanks!

 

[Photon]

I ain't going to sleuth it further. Good luck and thanks for sharing.

I'm out too, have fun guys.

 

[manbat]

Brother when TREN A, DHB restock??

Tren Ace and EQ were slated to land before Halloween, but tracking’s been quiet. If it flips and we get a surprise, great! But I don’t want to set expectations. I’ll update the moment anything changes.

IIRC, DHB hasn’t had an ETA in a long while.

 

[Bandern]

Let’s say someone procrastinates on filtering into new vials or it’s already occurred. They should probably trash vials that end up with gyno stopper?