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Glad to see good judgement on dosage. So many preach the large dose when it may not be needed. Start out small and work up if needed. I hope to hear back on how you respond.

Since your wife already supports your use, why not clue her in? Understand it possibly could be a double edge sworn with her knowing or not knowing but might be nice to have her feedback/support. She could then at least tell you you're being an asshole before you go and do something bad. Lol
 
@Roger rabbit, I think you didn’t see this. Not to bug you. It if you can give your input, please.

Sorry I did Mis this.

Yes for the most part if e2 is under control then prolactin should not be an issue.

Now there is a exception to this and other things can affect the prolactin such as certain other medications etc. so then the rule really wouldn’t apply.

Test p at 100mg everyday is fine brother test is test in a sense. If you are shooting everyday, then it will be very consistent and wouldn’t stress brother.
 
Glad to see good judgement on dosage. So many preach the large dose when it may not be needed. Start out small and work up if needed. I hope to hear back on how you respond.

Since your wife already supports your use, why not clue her in? Understand it possibly could be a double edge sworn with her knowing or not knowing but might be nice to have her feedback/support. She could then at least tell you you're being an asshole before you go and do something bad. Lol


We’ve spoke about Tren a lot I’m the past. But the sides, especially aggression scar her. Thing is we are both stand you ground type personalities. Neither of us inherently likes to back down. I’m not suggesting that we are one some getto shit, quite the opposite. He are responsible adults with kids and comfortable lives, but we just hard headed. But being a man, by that I mean sole provider and complete involved with the kids. But I am the alpha. I’m not some Abu since scumebag wife beater, but I can get scary.
Therefore she would rather prefer that I not jump on Tren.

I plan to run 4-6 weeks at best. At the proposed dose, hopefully the Test P and Mast P (forgot to mention that previously) will do most of the work and the low dose Tren I hope will just enough for me to see how I tolerate it.
 
Sorry I did Mis this.

Yes for the most part if e2 is under control then prolactin should not be an issue.

Now there is a exception to this and other things can affect the prolactin such as certain other medications etc. so then the rule really wouldn’t apply.

Test p at 100mg everyday is fine brother test is test in a sense. If you are shooting everyday, then it will be very consistent and wouldn’t stress brother.

Appreciate your feedback, always, brother!
 
Appreciate the reply. Let me play with this schedule for now. Once the pinning gets old, I’ll switch to EOD. I figured I’d start ED just to be more constant with hormone levels.

Hook hu...image a big smile on my face.

Only think. I haven’t let my wife know I started the Tren. She knows I do AAS, she a huge help with my eating and makis sure I get to sleep in time. But I’m worried about Tren rage. Really. I have a bit of a short fuse. I’m pretty level headed, and it takes a LOT to tick me offf, but do have my “do not press” buttons. Another reason for the conservative dose schedule.
Tren does absolutely nothing to my already shitty attitude. I love tren. Been on it wayyyy to long now....but i dont have anything else left to try at the moment...nothing new any way.
 
We’ve spoke about Tren a lot I’m the past. But the sides, especially aggression scar her. Thing is we are both stand you ground type personalities. Neither of us inherently likes to back down. I’m not suggesting that we are one some getto shit, quite the opposite. He are responsible adults with kids and comfortable lives, but we just hard headed. But being a man, by that I mean sole provider and complete involved with the kids. But I am the alpha. I’m not some Abu since scumebag wife beater, but I can get scary.
Therefore she would rather prefer that I not jump on Tren.

I plan to run 4-6 weeks at best. At the proposed dose, hopefully the Test P and Mast P (forgot to mention that previously) will do most of the work and the low dose Tren I hope will just enough for me to see how I tolerate it.

Bro, you are ABSOLUTELY doing the right thing by being cautious!!! This is your family we are talking about, including children. I applaud your stance, and her's.

I am disgusted by the idiots who claim that tren make them walking, talking felonies-waiting-to-happen, yet also claim that "the tren gains are too amazing to make me stop being an asshole to my family and to society". What the fuck is that?!?!
 
Tren does absolutely nothing to my already shitty attitude. I love tren. Been on it wayyyy to long now....but i dont have anything else left to try at the moment...nothing new any way.


You’re of the fortunate few..either that, or your don’t realize it. That the part that worries me.
 
Bro, you are ABSOLUTELY doing the right thing by being cautious!!! This is your family we are talking about, including children. I applaud your stance, and her's.

I am disgusted by the idiots who claim that tren make them walking, talking felonies-waiting-to-happen, yet also claim that "the tren gains are too amazing to make me stop being an asshole to my family and to society". What the fuck is that?!?!

Thanks for the vote of confidence Beckel..but I do feel guilty that doing it behind her back. I love this woman. I’m luck to have her. At my age (44) and two previous divorces...she’s means more to me than anything. But I feel everything is finally in place, in terms of diet, time in the gym, sleep, everything is good right now. And I know no matter when, now or in th future, she will be against it and talk me out of it. So I kinda made the independent decision to pin.
I pray it doesn’t shoot me in the foot.
 
Glad to see good judgement on dosage. So many preach the large dose when it may not be needed. Start out small and work up if needed. I hope to hear back on how you respond.

Since your wife already supports your use, why not clue her in? Understand it possibly could be a double edge sworn with her knowing or not knowing but might be nice to have her feedback/support. She could then at least tell you you're being an asshole before you go and do something bad. Lol
This is exactly what I’m doing. My first run with tren, and like @Inquiring Mind, started low, but EOD pins. I told my wife to let me know if I’m an asshole and I’ll stop. If I can tolerate it, great. If not, wasn’t meant to be.
 
This is exactly what I’m doing. My first run with tren, and like @Inquiring Mind, started low, but EOD pins. I told my wife to let me know if I’m an asshole and I’ll stop. If I can tolerate it, great. If not, wasn’t meant to be.

I’m guess most of the guys that are in agreement with my approach most likes have to be more or less around my age group, because the younger generation only has two speeds..fast and furious. LOl.

Edit: Also, just to add, my wife know me so well, she will let me know quickly if I’m being a dick. And she’s very perceptive, if she pick up on really unlike me behavior, I could hear her ask “did you go on Tren”?!
 
You’re of the fortunate few..either that, or your don’t realize it. That the part that worries me.
No, i would be told if i were to become a bigger asshole than i already am. It just makes me wanna fuck a lot...but that goes away after several weeks. Plus the gains are cool. The only compound i have used i can literally see my body change. Neg sides are almost nil for me on everything. But also, im not a guy that can put on 20 lbs. From a 1st cycle either....so...win some lose some.
 
Just give an updat on my Tren A experience this far. Tomorrow (16th) would make it exactly 2 weeks (14 days exactly) pinning the Tren A at 25mg a day.

I had just 3 episodes of the notorious Tren Cough. But ever since I’ve been further diluting with GSO and really taking my time with the actually injection I have not have any subsequent coughing.

At this dose (25mg/day x 7 days =175mg/week) I have not experiacef any obvious negativity sides. The first 3 days I was very ate rice and super alter to the possibility of become a monster, but noting happens and I have since just relaxed and stopped waiting for the explosion.

And no sleep issues thus far. However, I do feel unusually warmer all night and day.

I do t know if the following is true for Tren but I think maybe my metabolism is increases because I’m hunger more often as of late. I want to eat ever 2.5—3hrs.

I’m the gym I have become stronger. While I haven’t added more weights on the bars (I’m trying to cut anyway so I’m doing more volume work), evening feels lighter and breezing through a little too easly. I’ve began doing more sets with variation, basically more volume, but I realize at this point my body has adapted and I will have to i creas the weight after all.

Another thing, and I know 2 weeks is probably too early to realize this, but I feel like my recovery is much quicker. Usually, they way I hit each body part, I’m typically wait till the next week, now I feel like I’m ready to go back in a second time in the same week. Is that common to Tren?

The only thing I haven’t noticed is any strange desire to fuck any and every girl. I mean I naturally want to fuck every girl as it is, but I’m not having those “strange” thoughts people associate with Tren.

Well, that’s about to. So far so good.

Do I stay at this dosage for the remainder of the next 4 weeks of my planed cycle or do I bump up the dosage?

My rationale mind tells me ride it out at the same dose, study my blood reposts, and just make observations and keep records.
But another part of me is wanting to bump up a just a little little. Maybe not up to 50mg but 40mg maybe?
 
Just give an updat on my Tren A experience this far. Tomorrow (16th) would make it exactly 2 weeks (14 days exactly) pinning the Tren A at 25mg a day.

I had just 3 episodes of the notorious Tren Cough. But ever since I’ve been further diluting with GSO and really taking my time with the actually injection I have not have any subsequent coughing.

At this dose (25mg/day x 7 days =175mg/week) I have not experiacef any obvious negativity sides. The first 3 days I was very ate rice and super alter to the possibility of become a monster, but noting happens and I have since just relaxed and stopped waiting for the explosion.

And no sleep issues thus far. However, I do feel unusually warmer all night and day.

I do t know if the following is true for Tren but I think maybe my metabolism is increases because I’m hunger more often as of late. I want to eat ever 2.5—3hrs.

I’m the gym I have become stronger. While I haven’t added more weights on the bars (I’m trying to cut anyway so I’m doing more volume work), evening feels lighter and breezing through a little too easly. I’ve began doing more sets with variation, basically more volume, but I realize at this point my body has adapted and I will have to i creas the weight after all.

Another thing, and I know 2 weeks is probably too early to realize this, but I feel like my recovery is much quicker. Usually, they way I hit each body part, I’m typically wait till the next week, now I feel like I’m ready to go back in a second time in the same week. Is that common to Tren?

The only thing I haven’t noticed is any strange desire to fuck any and every girl. I mean I naturally want to fuck every girl as it is, but I’m not having those “strange” thoughts people associate with Tren.

Well, that’s about to. So far so good.

Do I stay at this dosage for the remainder of the next 4 weeks of my planed cycle or do I bump up the dosage?

My rationale mind tells me ride it out at the same dose, study my blood reposts, and just make observations and keep records.
But another part of me is wanting to bump up a just a little little. Maybe not up to 50mg but 40mg maybe?

175/ week is a pretty low dose. I just finished pinning 200/week but had some sweating at night and tons of sweating at the gym. I also would have fucked lots of my exes, which I never want to do.

To comment on the appetite. I too had increased appetite once the tren really peaked. I ran tren E.

In my opinion, I would wait for 4 full weeks at the dose. Then take bloods. If no other sides come up, then go up to your next desired dose. If you’re wanting to keep it low, I’d say go to 300/wk and see how you handle that for 4 weeks. Bloods again... blah blah.

For me. The strength was awesome as well as putting on mass while retaining my leanness. However, the sweating at night fucked me up. Up every 3 hours to flip my pillow and put down a new towel blew ass... but some people don’t get those sides even at 4-500/wk. everyone is different.
 
175/ week is a pretty low dose. I just finished pinning 200/week but had some sweating at night and tons of sweating at the gym. I also would have fucked lots of my exes, which I never want to do.

To comment on the appetite. I too had increased appetite once the tren really peaked. I ran tren E.

In my opinion, I would wait for 4 full weeks at the dose. Then take bloods. If no other sides come up, then go up to your next desired dose. If you’re wanting to keep it low, I’d say go to 300/wk and see how you handle that for 4 weeks. Bloods again... blah blah.

For me. The strength was awesome as well as putting on mass while retaining my leanness. However, the sweating at night fucked me up. Up every 3 hours to flip my pillow and put down a new towel blew ass... but some people don’t get those sides even at 4-500/wk. everyone is different.

So I completed 6 weeks and worked my way up to 50mg/day for a total of 350/week.
Strength was exponential:
275lbs for 8 comtroled reps on flat bench.
90lbs dumbbells incline presses.
213 front squats 12 reps (legs not my strong point).
245 for 10 deadlifts.
These are all PR for me. Never hit these numbers, granted I workout alone, and don’t have anybody spotting me, so I don’t want to be that dick that gets stuck nunder the bar.

Anyway, back to Tren, I have to say, and this will sound a-typical, but man, I was the nicest person I’ve ever could be. My mood was always positive, I did not even once feel edgy or short. I’d ask my wife “hey, I’m I being good, have I disrespected you in any way, have I been short tempered in any way?” He reply has been positive. She was like whatever is going on with you is the best I’ve ever seen. I did not tell her about my Tren run.

Granted I was preoccupied with sex. Not like some weird serial killer type shit, hust this underling horny feeling all the time. The sex was all over the place. So wifey was very happy with that.

We sleep with the AC blasting and the ceiling fan running, so I never realized the night sweats. The one that that had me worried was my breathing was affected. Can’t walk to the mailbox without huffing.

Other than that, this was some interesting shit.

Appreciate your input by the way brother.
 
So I completed 6 weeks and worked my way up to 50mg/day for a total of 350/week.
Strength was exponential:
275lbs for 8 comtroled reps on flat bench.
90lbs dumbbells incline presses.
213 front squats 12 reps (legs not my strong point).
245 for 10 deadlifts.
These are all PR for me. Never hit these numbers, granted I workout alone, and don’t have anybody spotting me, so I don’t want to be that dick that gets stuck nunder the bar.

Anyway, back to Tren, I have to say, and this will sound a-typical, but man, I was the nicest person I’ve ever could be. My mood was always positive, I did not even once feel edgy or short. I’d ask my wife “hey, I’m I being good, have I disrespected you in any way, have I been short tempered in any way?” He reply has been positive. She was like whatever is going on with you is the best I’ve ever seen. I did not tell her about my Tren run.

Granted I was preoccupied with sex. Not like some weird serial killer type shit, hust this underling horny feeling all the time. The sex was all over the place. So wifey was very happy with that.

We sleep with the AC blasting and the ceiling fan running, so I never realized the night sweats. The one that that had me worried was my breathing was affected. Can’t walk to the mailbox without huffing.

Other than that, this was some interesting shit.

Appreciate your input by the way brother.

Respect and credit to you for working your way up to an effective, responsible dosage. Way too many amongst us read that other members here are running 700mg of a particular compound per week, so we jump on that same drug at that same dosage without working our way into it and assessing our reaction/tolerance/effectiveness in a controlled manner that will allow us to have maximum success with the least negative consequences.

I applaud your approach, and you now have something to build on going forward.
 
Respect and credit to you for working your way up to an effective, responsible dosage. Way too many amongst us read that other members here are running 700mg of a particular compound per week, so we jump on that same drug at that same dosage without working our way into it and assessing our reaction/tolerance/effectiveness in a controlled manner that will allow us to have maximum success with the least negative consequences.

I applaud your approach, and you now have something to build on going forward.

Man...thank you! That means a lot to me. I honestly believe my age and having the responsibility of a wife and kids makes me think twice about what do and don't do. I haven't been here long, but l accepted early on that this is commitment to safety, and much consideration needs to go into this AAS way of life. From keeping sources accountable, to proper training and diet, and doing what i can to give back to my community, Meso! And that means being forthright and truthful about what we are doing. At some point i plan run a cycle log, but when i feel confident enough that I'm sharing something worthwhile and that I'm mentally in the right place for criticism that may come.

Anyway, i think you got me all touchy feely. LOL
Thank you again brother. I sincerely appreciate your encouraging words.
 
I actually got some of this gear through a friends friend, 1 time deal . Some sust and deca. Wish I could have gotten more but it was a few vials he didn't run and he's no longer cycling I guess. Wish I knew the friends buddy personal like @^#&$
 
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