Prop, tren, and DMZ 3.0

I know about tudca and NAC and how milk thistle isn't nearly as good. I think the best liver protection you can use is excessive water consumption.

I agree water is the best. Milk Thistle isn't going hurt, if you got it might as well use it.
 
Your wrong!

A quote from Bill Roberts:
"Aside from this, methyltestosterone offers little except androgenic side effects. It is quite toxic, elevating liver enzymes and causing acne, gynecomastia, aggression and water retention quite easily. Were one to tolerate these side-effects, methyltestosterone will offer little more than some slight strength gains."

https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/methyltestosterone/

So, I don't know much about Superdrol, but I imagine it doesn't aromatize, I don't know? Hard to ACTUALLY know with prohormones.
 
A quote from Bill Roberts:
"Aside from this, methyltestosterone offers little except androgenic side effects. It is quite toxic, elevating liver enzymes and causing acne, gynecomastia, aggression and water retention quite easily. Were one to tolerate these side-effects, methyltestosterone will offer little more than some slight strength gains."

https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/methyltestosterone/

So, I don't know much about Superdrol, but I imagine it doesn't aromatize, I don't know? Hard to ACTUALLY know with prohormones.

These are full blown designer steroids!
Just as powerful as D Bol or A bombs!
There is no conversion necessary!
They are not prohormones.

I have run m1a a few times and it was always very dry gains.
 
Just to clear this up methyltestosterone and methyl 1-testosterone are two completely different drugs and M1T is more potent by leaps and bounds.
 
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What part of gaining 20 lbs with a compound that does not aromatize don't you get. How is that not as good if not better and more powerful than d Bol.
Great strength gains and vascularity With zero water retention!
There is no smoke and mirrors with superdrol it is very legit.
To bad it's pure poison!! :eek:
 
@Morefyah stop arguing for the sake of arguing. If you believe their methyltest doesn't aromatize, great, I'm happy for you.

I'm not knowledgeable enough about prohormones, or as you so eloquently call them, designer steroids. I'm glad you found your miracle drug, or, is it poison? Pick a side Switzerland.
 
It's just friendly conversation @Wunderpus, no disrespect!
It is definitely poison..

What @Whoremoans is taking is not
Methyltest nor m1t.

He is taking m1a.
Methyltest is actually another steroid marketed as Phera.
They are actually all different.
 
I don't follow any of that stuff. I only understand basic AAS, none of the designer world. I guess it's mainly due to the fact I don't take orals, so there's no interest on my end.
 
Alright guys, I decided to bump up my tren dose to 100mg ED (more like 110mg) with the UGL stuff. I seem to be tolerating sides really well with low test high tren, nothing really to speak of that I can't handle as of yet. Positives are definitely outweighing the negatives.

So, yesterday I did legs, don't really feel like getting nitty gritty with the specifics, but it consisted of about 10 sets of leg press, 6 sets of low bar squats, 6 sets seated calf raises, 3 sets standing calf raises, 6 sets quad extensions, and 4 sets ham curls (I hit hams hard on back day with deadlifts). Tonight I'm going to hit delts and triceps. Time to kill it.
 
Alright guys, I decided to bump up my tren dose to 100mg ED (more like 110mg) with the UGL stuff. I seem to be tolerating sides really well with low test high tren, nothing really to speak of that I can't handle as of yet. Positives are definitely outweighing the negatives.

So, yesterday I did legs, don't really feel like getting nitty gritty with the specifics, but it consisted of about 10 sets of leg press, 6 sets of low bar squats, 6 sets seated calf raises, 3 sets standing calf raises, 6 sets quad extensions, and 4 sets ham curls (I hit hams hard on back day with deadlifts). Tonight I'm going to hit delts and triceps. Time to kill it.
I bump my tren A every two weeks. For me it takes about 2 weeks for sides to really hit me.

100mg a day is aggressive.
 
I bump my tren A every two weeks. For me it takes about 2 weeks for sides to really hit me.

100mg a day is aggressive.
If it gets too intense I'll back the dose down but tomorrow makes 12 days on and I'm feeling amazing. Just a bit lethargic sometimes from the oral, but I'm feeling pumped and strong as fuck. The only thing that really worries me about it is how it makes me snap so much easier. I love the aggression but I already have a bit of a short fuse.
 
Alright gents here's the rundown on today's sesh.

Started with front barbell raises

1x12 45lb, 55lbs, 65lbs

Front dumbbell raises:
1x15 25lbs
1x12 35lbs
1x8 45lbs
Drop set 1x8-12 40lbs, 35lbs, 30lbs, 20lbs

Seated DB press:
1x12 35lb
1x12 50lb
3x8 65lb
1x6 75lb
Drop set 55lb, 45lb, 40lb, 35lb, 27.5lb

Tricep cable pull down:

5x12 110lb
1x12 160lb
5x15 75lb

Smith machine OHP:

3x12 115lb
1x12 145lb
1x6 185lb (delts are on fire by now)

Tricep cable kick backs:

2x12 55lb
1x8 65lb
2x12 45lb

Machine presses:

3x12 ??lb

Machine tri push downs:

3x12 ??lb

Wrapped everything up with some calf work, I like to do calves frequently cuz the bastards just don't wanna grow otherwise.

Crazy pump today. The high volume work induces some absolutely crippling pumps. Great day at the gym! Followed by protein protein protein.
 
Alright guys I gotta say, on this cycle I'm waking up and noticing changes day by day. Scale weight isn't moving too much but body fat is thinning, vascularity is improving, fullness is great, strength is through the roof, recovery is faster than ever. I'm just feeling like an all around beast. Becoming more and more "aesthetic" day by day. I really am excited to see where I'm at by the end of this run. I'm debating on cycle length though. 8 weeks? 10 weeks? 12 weeks? What do you guys think? Also I do PCT, no cruising for this fella just yet.
 
Alright guys I gotta say, on this cycle I'm waking up and noticing changes day by day. Scale weight isn't moving too much but body fat is thinning, vascularity is improving, fullness is great, strength is through the roof, recovery is faster than ever. I'm just feeling like an all around beast. Becoming more and more "aesthetic" day by day. I really am excited to see where I'm at by the end of this run. I'm debating on cycle length though. 8 weeks? 10 weeks? 12 weeks? What do you guys think? Also I do PCT, no cruising for this fella just yet.

I would stick to 8 to 10 weeks. Probably 8 for me. Ive had a problem before on all my cycles where I start of feeling great and decide to run the cycle longer. Im making gains, good aggression etc. But everytime when im done I always think i shouldve cut it back by 2 weeks. The last 2 weeks i usually see minimal gains, and higher sides. Plus at that point Im already thinking about my next cycle and I have to wait longer to begin.
 
I would stick to 8 to 10 weeks. Probably 8 for me. Ive had a problem before on all my cycles where I start of feeling great and decide to run the cycle longer. Im making gains, good aggression etc. But everytime when im done I always think i shouldve cut it back by 2 weeks. The last 2 weeks i usually see minimal gains, and higher sides. Plus at that point Im already thinking about my next cycle and I have to wait longer to begin.
I feel like about 8 weeks is where I'm going to keep it. Maybeeeee 9 or 10.
 
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