Prop, tren, and DMZ 3.0

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How Long you are going to run dmz?
Thanks for pointing that out, I don't believe I have addressed that yet. I'm probably going to run it for 4 weeks. Idk maybe less. I'm taking a bit more than the recommended dosage so I definitely don't want to push the limit with such a toxic oral.
 
Thanks for pointing that out, I don't believe I have addressed that yet. I'm probably going to run it for 4 weeks. Idk maybe less. I'm taking a bit more than the recommended dosage so I definitely don't want to push the limit with such a toxic oral.

I was going to mention that. I took 2.0 and started off at rec dose (2 pills), up it to 3 and the sides got bad. I got bloods done and the doc said my pancreas levels were off (there were official terms but i cant remember).
Just be careful with that dosage bro. I learned my lesson on that one.
 
I was going to mention that. I took 2.0 and started off at rec dose (2 pills), up it to 3 and the sides got bad. I got bloods done and the doc said my pancreas levels were off (there were official terms but i cant remember).
Just be careful with that dosage bro. I learned my lesson on that one.
Yeah man I need to get some bloods done sooner or later. My lipids were already somewhat off about a month or two ago. A bit worrisome honestly.
 
I have some dmz waiting for me . The regular not the combo.
But I'm going to to in a different way.
I will dosing in my last 4 weeks of cycle .
 
Alright I'm considering dropping the oral. Everytime I take make dose it makes me feel like a bag of salty dog turds. Nobody wants to feel like turds. Plus with my LDL and HDL already being fucked up I'm not trying to die. Dying wouldn't be a fun way to end this cycle.
 
Interesting. What's your reasoning for running it at the end rather than a kickstart?


Also I'm going to be using long ester as base.
Dmz will be after I drop the long ester mean while dmz will keep me pushing hard te last few weeks before getting pct
My kicker will be test prop .
 
Alright I'm considering dropping the oral. Everytime I take make dose it makes me feel like a bag of salty dog turds. Nobody wants to feel like turds. Plus with my LDL and HDL already being fucked up I'm not trying to die. Dying wouldn't be a fun way to end this cycle.

About this I think you are doing it right !!
Test p & tren A > good enought to start feeling it at the end of week 1 so no need to get an extra fast action PH .
 
Alright I'm considering dropping the oral. Everytime I take make dose it makes me feel like a bag of salty dog turds. Nobody wants to feel like turds. Plus with my LDL and HDL already being fucked up I'm not trying to die. Dying wouldn't be a fun way to end this cycle.

Listen to your body. You can drop the dosage too though. The dmz is underdosed in there but the msten would be good at 1 pill a day. 8mg has shown to be effective.
 
About this I think you are doing it right !!
Test p & tren A > good enought to start feeling it at the end of week 1 so no need to get an extra fast action PH .
Yeah I'm already seeing pretty good results at 12 days in which is blowing my mind.
Listen to your body. You can drop the dosage too though. The dmz is underdosed in there but the msten would be good at 1 pill a day. 8mg has shown to be effective.
yeah I think I might just start taking 1 a day and see how I feel. If I don't feel any better I'm gonna drop it. 1 a day will put me at 10mg DMZ 10mg Msten and 10mg alpha1 (ph to 1AD).
 
Had a bench press session today and hit a ton of biceps. Great workout but it wasn't a very structured one lol. I don't even want to begin trying to log the individual exercises because I was so all over the place. Post workout I had a nice soak in the hot tub and ate three nice thick BBQ chicken breasts. Feeling pretty beat.

I've been keeping a gallon water jug with me the past couple days and I swear I fill and drain the damn thing 3 times a day. I drink nothing but water. No soda at all. I would drink milk but sadly I was blessed with lactose intolerance.
 
Update: today is day 14 so it's offically been two weeks on cycle and I gotta say it's going better than expected. The only sides I'm getting from the tren are some aggression, vivid dreams, and my body temp seems slightly raised. No night sweats, no insomnia(which is crazy because I already have insomnia), no horrific nightmares, no difficulty breathing or getting winded (anymore than I had before cycle lol), still haven't experienced any tren cough. Things are going good. Yesterday was a rest day later tonight I'm gonna hit back.
 
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Update: today is day 14 so it's offically been two weeks on cycle and I gotta say it's going better than expected. The only sides I'm getting from the tren are some aggression, vivid dreams, and my body temp seems slightly raised. No night sweats, no insomnia(which is crazy because I already have insomnia), no horrific nightmares, no difficulty breathing or getting winded (anymore than I had before cycle lol), still haven't experienced any tren cough. Things are going good. Yesterday was a rest day lately tonight I'm gonna hit back.
Glad to hear things are going well an the sides aren't kicken your ass to bad lol. I know some of those sides can be a bitch. Keep up the hard work bro.
 
Glad to hear things are going well an the sides aren't kicken your ass to bad lol. I know some of those sides can be a bitch. Keep up the hard work bro.
Thanks bro! Yeah man I was a bit worried going into this one because of all the tren horror stories you hear but to be honest it seems like tren and I are a match made in heaven :D
 
Thanks bro! Yeah man I was a bit worried going into this one because of all the tren horror stories you hear but to be honest it seems like tren and I are a match made in heaven :D
Ya i was the same way man. Now that ive done it, its not near as bad as all the bad talk about it. Maybe we are just the few very fortunate that luck out on having the horrible sides lol;)
 
Ya i was the same way man. Now that ive done it, its not near as bad as all the bad talk about it. Maybe we are just the few very fortunate that luck out on having the horrible sides lol;)
This seems to be the case lol. I know it's only been two weeks but as of right now the sides I get from high test are worse than high tren. At between 750-1000mg of pharm grade cyp I was a fucking maniac. Night sweats, white knuckle fist clenching murderous dreams, dick hard as a rock 24/7 and I just started to hate everyone around me.
 
This seems to be the case lol. I know it's only been two weeks but as of right now the sides I get from high test are worse than high tren. At between 750-1000mg of pharm grade cyp I was a fucking maniac. Night sweats, white knuckle fist clenching murderous dreams, dick hard as a rock 24/7 and I just started to hate everyone around me.
Ya but i wonder how much worse the sides would get if we ran it @ 1g wk lol?
 
Ya but i wonder how much worse the sides would get if we ran it @ 1g wk lol?
Who knows, probably pretty bad lol. But tren is suppose to be 5x stronger than test so a gram of tren is suppose to be roughly equivalent to 5 grams of test. Now that sounds nuts.
 
By looking at Those compounds your are hitting towards a lean bulking or cutting cycle ?
What's your diet?
So far 14 days , have you notice that vasularity , vains poping out?
 
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