pros/cons of HCG with TRT?

[LW64]

OK I'm going to try 30mg sustanon and 250iu HCG every 3 days and see how I feel. Will try and get labs after 2 months and see if I can time them with the day of my shot.

Cheers for the feedback btw. You always give great info.

No problem.

When you use HCG + T, you want your T dose to be about two-thirds to three quarters of what works for you when using T only. Adjust the dose accordingly once you get labs.

It's difficult to get e2 tested as a man in the U.K and impossible to get sensitive e2 tested. Does anyone know if I can send a sample to the states for testing? Will it be too long in transit that way, if it is even possible?

I've never looked into it. OTTOMH, I tend to doubt it's possible.

 

[Deadballs]

OK cheers will do!

I just received all my stuff. I've been on androgel for 3 weeks now 50 mg daily and it hasn't anything much for libido at all. I've noticed no slumps in energy though which is the only observable thing.

Anyway I just pinned 500 ius of HCG as it's been 3 weeks on the androgel. Also just took 50mg of proviron for the hell of it as this drove my libido from non existent to wild when I tried it before but then nothing after 48hrs for some reason. I speculate it drove e2 too low as 2 days of proviron at 50mg per day can't have shut me down but no amount after that would bring about any libido whatsoever.

I plan to start sustanon on Sunday. I may start with a high dose for the first dose and then just a maintenance dose.

 

[LW64]

Try not to have too much in the mix because it should be (at least) interesting for you to see/feel what, if anything, HCG does for you. Even if you don't think the boys have become smaller or don't care if they have, you should get some size restoration/increase fairly soon, maybe by the end of the first month.

 

[Deadballs]

That's initially what I thought but it's been so long since I had any libido I couldn't help dropping the proviron as soon as I got home from work as it's quick. I was going to wait as you say and see if I had any effect over the next few days off that alone but then I started studying how to inject myself, and reconstituting, storing the HCG etc. etc. , being my first time, and I just had to do my very first injection, like a fucking child lol. It was all I could do to not inject 250mgs sustanon.

Anyway I sold it to myself on the premise that the HCG was necessary and over due for my balls and the proviron wouldn't hurt being mildly anti estrogenic.

When I inject the sustanon on Sunday I will stick with that and hcg alone, hopefully already having some libido by this stage. If so, by god I'm going out and getting laid, it's been too long!

 

[foreveryoung]

did the proviron actually make any difference?

 

[Deadballs]

did the proviron actually make any difference?

took 50mg 14 hrs ago so not much yet but I just literally woke with an erection. Laid in for an hour cos I don't have work today and erection remained for the whole time. That never happens these days so something is happening. Still no libido though but not to be expected for another 24-48 hrs.

 

[foreveryoung]

Proviron is in and out pretty fast , why are you expecting the results 48 hours later?

 

[Deadballs]

Well cos in the past it took 24 hrs I seem to recall and also a lot of people state that they didn't feel anything for roughly 3 days. Perhaps to allow the substance to accumulate in the body!?

 

[Deadballs]

20+ hrs after taking 50mg + 25mg this morning no effect on libido yet. In fact I feel lime shit today.

 

[foreveryoung]

20+ hrs after taking 50mg + 25mg this morning no effect on libido yet. In fact I feel lime shit today.

keep us posted, hope you find some answers, I've been through all these experiments so many times but I guess it's something a person has to experience themselves... for me hcg and or proviron are not answers, proviron does no real harm though so may be useful or not but it is not any kind of libido miracle worker... hcg on the other hand is horrible in my experience

 

[Deadballs]

Cheers, will do!

I can't wait, I'm gonna inject 250mg sustanon now as a loading dose. Fucking big needle isn't gonna be nice. Will then drop the dose a lot and pin every 3 days with HCG. Not sure what to set it at. I'm now thinking 65mg and 250ius hcg. Really praying that I can get a libido back on this.

I need HCG cos I haven't had kids yet and I may want to have them in the next few years if I find a decent woman.

 

[Deadballs]

Just did my first IM injection. 250mg sustanon. Didn't even feel it go in!

 

[foreveryoung]

good luck.... don't really agree with the "loading" idea but let us know how it goes

 

[Deadballs]

Yeah you're right. I will have to wait at least a week for my next injection. At least.

Awoke with a semi today. Slept like a log too last night. 10 hrs for some reason.

 

[Deadballs]

Energy is good today. Had to work. Used my large hedge cutter for 4 hours which is generally hard work as it's heavy. It felt lighter than normal. That's about my only observation so far and is probably nothing.

 

[Deadballs]

Only real observation I've noted at this early stage is erections in the morning and I am sleeping like the dead. I normally take a nytol at night but not the last 2 nights. Out cold by 12 and totally asleep until the morning.

 

[johnsmith081734]

random question// is taking 150mg of test once per week alright? like is it stable or should you split the dosage M/TH?

 

[foreveryoung]

not perfectly stable but getting close enough for many

 

[LW64]

Only real observation I've noted at this early stage is erections in the morning and I am sleeping like the dead. I normally take a nytol at night but not the last 2 nights. Out cold by 12 and totally asleep until the morning.

You're due to pin 250 IUs HCG today, right?

 

[Deadballs]

Yeah did it already. I notice my ball bag was a bit tight today (excuse the detail). It sometimes is anyway but not observed any testicular shrinkage yet I don't think. Though I don't know if that is to be expected at this early stage.