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He has zero credibility and this discussion doesn't concern him as he has skin in the game. He stands to lose if mk is proven as ppl. No sense to test gear that's already been tested .
His history is clear . He is a liar. His credibility is nill.
HIM posting in this thread is the distraction.
So who would we assume MK handle to be. Cause it sure as hell isn't Panda himself. He doesn't heven come here anymore. Except to say my old brewer got raided by letter agencies. Lol. But don't worry about it.Regardless of whether he has skin in the game, he made a valid point in his argument. Your rebuttal to his point doesn't prove that he's wrong or that his point isn't valid.
I understand what you're saying and why you're saying it, you're more than entitled to your stance and you made a good point. But I hope you understand my position when I say that the focus moving onto Jano and away from the source isn't going to help us. I agree that jano should probably stick to his thread, there's a conflict of interest for him here and it'll only serve to distract further.
Regardless of whether he has skin in the game, he made a valid point in his argument. Your rebuttal to his point doesn't prove that he's wrong or that his point isn't valid.
I understand what you're saying and why you're saying it, you're more than entitled to your stance and you made a good point. But I hope you understand my position when I say that the focus moving onto Jano and away from the source isn't going to help us. I agree that jano should probably stick to his thread, there's a conflict of interest for him here and it'll only serve to distract further.
So who would we assume MK handle to be. Cause it sure as hell isn't Panda himself. He doesn't heven come here anymore. Except to say my old brewer got raided by letter agencies. Lol. But don't worry about it.
Let’s see some proof to your bullshit claims
Because it's either that, or you made both of them click on the same link which tracked their data - which is also bannable offense, as per what @Millard Baker says.
I don't really think you are panda,
This isnt the first time I've heard @CensoredBoardsSuck being accused of having mod powers and/or abusing mod powers. I assumed it was a ridiculous claim. I dunno.
How about actual cyber attacks?
Add this.
Mk site looks just like ppl
Mk stated that he purposely copied ppl site.
Paid 15k for that copy
That website didn't cost 15k, so either he's a liar or a shitty businessman
There's no way in the world that site is 15k. I've had several built, hosted and managed over the last decade and even with flash and media playing it's hard to hit 2500.
What he's saying has no technical facts. I'm very very limited with my technical skills. Finding IP is easy .
My web guy is a fucking genius. He's showed me things with a few fast button clicks that blew me away. CBS would not have had to use anything forum based to find out what he did. Can I prove that to you, no ..partly because I can log on to my computer and that's about it. The average web dude could easily find out all that stuff.
For instance I have a really bad negative review for my business. It's bad, and the only one. My web guy was able to track the user down, find out who and where and prove to Google that it was fake review from a competitor. No clue on the technical side all I know is that he did it and google scrubbed the review .
Jano ranting about using forum data is just trying to cast doubt, it hurts his bottom line and he's got skin in the game . Which also pulls in the source fanboys.
I've said it 1000x .... I'd love for ppl, mk, whoever to succeed. It is better for all of us. I want 6 good PPL's and 9 good MK's. But the constant drama and lies . Think they save your info? Will the rep come after you if you call him out with his BS...those are potentially dangerous situations .
I believe you’re right @Eman, keep PPL around for the customers still willing to order, open up MK for a new safe place for the customers that left PPL and that way it’s like his business never took a hit. If anything he’s doubling up by having people order from both lolI absolutely believe it's Panda, or a rep for Panda. He stopped coming into the PPL thread after he suddenly brought the new "rep" on, and then MK appears with the same business model.
Who would invest in an HPLC unit right away when starting a raws business? Someone with previous experience in the business I would say. Not only would that be an unusual and expensive initial expense, he'd also need an employee that can use it because I very much doubt that he can do it himself. The businesses (MK & PPL) are operating off of one another.
When I posted screenshots of Odie's email inbox to prove he was secretly sourcing - and after he threatened a female member - I didn't use Meso to break into his email.
I remember reading his stuff before joining, is there a thread dedicated to him being called out?Not to get off topic but, I was thinking of this last night when all this started... Half the guys on this thread probably don't know who Odie was. That was the single most savage outing of a liar that has ever been posted on Meso lol.
I believe you’re right @Eman, keep PPL around for the customers still willing to order, open up MK for a new safe place for the customers that left PPL and that way it’s like his business never took a hit. If anything he’s doubling up by having people order from both lol
Hey I like your opinions @Holidaypay, they make me giggleI feel the same way mk is for the customers that don't want to use pp anymore smart move money wise but thats just my opinion
Hey I like your opinions @Holidaypay, they make me giggle
I'm sure some people can comment without divulging too much info about stealth but I'm sure both methods are the same. And as for finished tabs PPL has unique tabs that go with the shipping method. I'm not sure if MK has a press but I would think he did. Who buys a HPLC machine before a pill press? But if he does the tabs could be compared. But it might also be easy to change the shape of tabs. Idk.I absolutely believe it's Panda, or a rep for Panda. He stopped coming into the PPL thread after he suddenly brought the new "rep" on, and then MK appears with the same business model.
Who would invest in an HPLC unit right away when starting a raws business? Someone with previous experience in the business I would say. Not only would that be an unusual and expensive initial expense, he'd also need an employee that can use it because I very much doubt that he can do it himself. The businesses (MK & PPL) are operating off of one another.
I was being sincere, didn’t want you to think I was being sarcasticThank you good sir I try
Oh shit... this just got real afIt's against the rules to post personal information on Meso. Would you like me to start a pastebin and post your name, address and IP?
You might want to think about that one before answering, especially considering the country you're currently operating from. Although I'm sure the Chinese government would be perfectly happy to accept your involuntary organ donation in spite your AAS useage.
You're so naive, jano. You know less about online security than you do analytical testing.
An ISIS terrorist came to Meso threatening to set off bombs, rape Western women and celebrating the deaths of American military personnel. Like MK, he thought he was untouchable too - until I posted a picture of his house and car. I didn't post his name and IP because that would be against the rules, so I sent that information to the British authorities along with links to his terroristic threats. Never heard from that guy again.
But I didn't use Meso to capture his info.
When I posted screenshots of Odie's email inbox to prove he was secretly sourcing - and after he threatened a female member - I didn't use Meso to break into his email.
This is all verifible with a simple search of Meso.
I have too much respect for Millard and Meso and its members to try and hack into the site.
MK fucked up and left his front door unlocked. Anyone could go inside and take a look around. You might want to think about the implications of that with regard to customer safety rather than defending sources and trying to figure out how I got his info.
Although if it made you uncomfortable enough to stay at Meso, I'd be happy with that. But if I want you I'll find you wherever you are.
People also believe you do analytical testing too, but we both know that's not true. I only deal in facts, not superstition.
I've heard that a couple of times too and it's bullshit. I have no more authority or access here than you.
And if I wanted to cyber attack MK, I'd launch a ddos attack and he wouldn't be here having a panic attack right now.
I'm MK. I'm an American born Chinese who currently resides between America and China.
I can go around and say I have a 12” dick and five Lamborghinis but that doesn’t make it true.
It's against the rules to post personal information on Meso. Would you like me to start a pastebin and post your name, address and IP?
You might want to think about that one before answering, especially considering the country you're currently operating from. Although I'm sure the Chinese government would be perfectly happy to accept your involuntary organ donation in spite your AAS useage.
You're so naive, jano. You know less about online security than you do analytical testing.
An ISIS terrorist came to Meso threatening to set off bombs, rape Western women and celebrating the deaths of American military personnel. Like MK, he thought he was untouchable too - until I posted a picture of his house and car. I didn't post his name and IP because that would be against the rules, so I sent that information to the British authorities along with links to his terroristic threats. Never heard from that guy again.
But I didn't use Meso to capture his info.
When I posted screenshots of Odie's email inbox to prove he was secretly sourcing - and after he threatened a female member - I didn't use Meso to break into his email.
This is all verifible with a simple search of Meso.
I have too much respect for Millard and Meso and its members to try and hack into the site.
MK fucked up and left his front door unlocked. Anyone could go inside and take a look around. You might want to think about the implications of that with regard to customer safety rather than defending sources and trying to figure out how I got his info.
Although if it made you uncomfortable enough to stay at Meso, I'd be happy with that. But if I want you I'll find you wherever you are.
People also believe you do analytical testing too, but we both know that's not true. I only deal in facts, not superstition.
I've heard that a couple of times too and it's bullshit. I have no more authority or access here than you.
And if I wanted to cyber attack MK, I'd launch a ddos attack and he wouldn't be here having a panic attack right now.