PurplePandaLabs And Monkey King Anabolics Are The Same Lab

[Robfromga]

This is true. A lot of the people asking if Dom is gonna reopen are too lazy to read as well. Do you really think the risk is that high ordering intl raws? Honest question. I don't want to be naive. Or are you saying the risk is through the website?

I don't think the risk is now any more or less than it's been. The risk is more PPL internal, his site, reps, etc. But it's a dirty game and you either do or don't accept the risks. The risk comes from customs etc. And only a fraction gets siezed .

 

[Robfromga]

Any food for thought is welcome. So do you guys think the letter agencies have an address for the packs that come from panda? Like it seems very hard to me for them to know what packs are what and coming from where. I'm not defending at all. I'm trying to objectively form an educated decision.

I don't think there's a way to track packs prior to customs. Well, let me reword that, I don't think that it's likely they'd put the resources together to track outgoing mail from ppl. That's a logistical headache. Once it hits the US, all bets are off

 

[T-Bagger]

I don't think there's a way to track packs prior to customs. Well, let me reword that, I don't think that it's likely they'd put the resources together to track outgoing mail from ppl. That's a logistical headache. Once it hits the US, all bets are off

Unless the DEA is hardcore and uses methods like CBS did and is watching Panda’s every move.

 

[Xragexx]

Unless the DEA is hardcore and uses methods like CBS did and is watching Panda’s every move.

That’s more my take on it. It takes very few resources to hunt someone down across the globe now days. If cbs can do that in his spare time I can only imagine what some dude looking to be promoted would put together on the clock. Maybe I’m just paranoid, who knows.

 

[XmadXscientist]

I don't think there's a way to track packs prior to customs. Well, let me reword that, I don't think that it's likely they'd put the resources together to track outgoing mail from ppl. That's a logistical headache. Once it hits the US, all bets are off

They order like you and I, then record return addresses. Since most of those will be fake or legitimate business they will also look at where the pack was dropped for shipping. Eventually this will give them a radius to search. DEA has an office in China where bribes are normal operating procedures and the DEA isn’t going to prosecute itself.

It’s all more complicated than this but just to give an idea of how simple it is for them.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Unless the DEA is hardcore and uses methods like CBS did and is watching Panda’s every move.

OOnce you find the source moving weight follow the big orders to hit the next lab. It isn’t coincidence that several labs were busted around the same time and a few shortly after that.

They might not get panda right now, but they have the ability to keep snagging the weight coming in and following it.

As far as them not worrying about the little fish. You keep ordering enough of that small weight and it gets documented... with love letters... well it’s only a matter of time after till your number is drawn.

To risk going with a place that has a history of trouble is just plain silly.

 

[Xragexx]

OOnce you find the source moving weight follow the big orders to hit the next lab. It isn’t coincidence that several labs were busted around the same time and a few shortly after that.

They might not get panda right now, but they have the ability to keep snagging the weight coming in and following it.

As far as them not worrying about the little fish. You keep ordering enough of that small weight and it gets documented... with love letters... well it’s only a matter of time after till your number is drawn.

To risk going with a place that has a history of trouble is just plain silly.

I don’t follow the big fish little fish motto. It’s just like normal fishing..if nothing is biting you take what you can get. I’ve known people to get busted for 4 vials

 

[Eman]

I remember reading his stuff before joining, is there a thread dedicated to him being called out?

There is, but the good part happened here:

https://thinksteroids.com/community...st-shredded-member-at-meso.134364042/page-265

The picture isn't showing up anymore for some reason. The backstory was that Odie had done a bench press competition and got 104 reps with 135lbs. He posted everything up and had some personal info blacked out. Everyone congratulated him, etc.

CBS posted the pic up again but showed the date, which was a year prior to when odie said it happened. By the time CBS did that, Odie had already been caught for numerous other sketchy items and banned permanently... Happened right about at the same time.

You'd have to go back through his post history to get a feel for him. He was a shit stirrer and attention seeker through and through. Started numerous witch hunts, created fake accounts that he would talk to himself with... Weird dude.

 

[Xragexx]

There is, but the good part happened here:

https://thinksteroids.com/community...st-shredded-member-at-meso.134364042/page-265

The picture isn't showing up anymore for some reason. The backstory was that Odie had done a bench press competition and got 104 reps with 135lbs. He posted everything up and had some personal info blacked out. Everyone congratulated him, etc.

CBS posted the pic up again but showed the date, which was a year prior to when odie said it happened. By the time CBS did that, Odie had already been caught for numerous other sketchy items and banned permanently... Happened right about at the same time.

I remember the bench press comp, I think it was a video he posted? May have just been a pic but I remember seeing it. His tone was always holier than thou..

Edit: you are correct @Eman it was a pic

Edit edit: man after reading briefly through that whole odie ordeal, it saddens me to realize how much the culture of this forum has changed. All the big names are in that thread, I remember joining and talking to some of y’all and feeling star struck lol

 

[T-Bagger]

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I remember the bench press comp, I think it was a video he posted? May have just been a pic but I remember seeing it. His tone was always holier than thou..

Edit: you are correct @Eman it was a pic

Edit edit: man after reading briefly through that whole odie ordeal, it saddens me to realize how much the culture of this forum has changed. All the big names are in that thread, I remember joining and talking to some of y’all and feeling star struck lol

LOL, it makes me feel good when Millard or CBS likes a post of mine. Totally lame, I know...

 

[Heavy Iron]

LOL, it makes me feel good when Millard or CBS likes a post of mine. Totally lame, I know...

Lol just messing with ya.

 

[Robfromga]

LOL, it makes me feel good when Millard or CBS likes a post of mine. Totally lame, I know...

You have arrived!

 

[Test_Subject]

I had a hunch that both labs were one and the same. Thanks for putting in a bit of detective work @CensoredBoardsSuck.

Anyone who orders from either of these places is nuts with all of the fuckups, hair in gear, security breaches, potential busts etc.

They're a fucking liability.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

There is, but the good part happened here:

https://thinksteroids.com/community...st-shredded-member-at-meso.134364042/page-265

The picture isn't showing up anymore for some reason. The backstory was that Odie had done a bench press competition and got 104 reps with 135lbs. He posted everything up and had some personal info blacked out. Everyone congratulated him, etc.

CBS posted the pic up again but showed the date, which was a year prior to when odie said it happened. By the time CBS did that, Odie had already been caught for numerous other sketchy items and banned permanently... Happened right about at the same time.

You'd have to go back through his post history to get a feel for him. He was a shit stirrer and attention seeker through and through. Started numerous witch hunts, created fake accounts that he would talk to himself with... Weird dude.

The most damaging thing Odie did during that whole scandal - other than terrorize the female member - was nearly kill the women's forum. Up to that point it was growing rapidly and it was one of the most fun Meso forums. His stalking and harassment didn't kill it but it sure stopped its growth. It never recovered, sadly.

 

[Xragexx]

The most damaging thing Odie did during that whole scandal - other than terrorize the female member - was nearly kill the women's forum. Up to that point it was growing rapidly and it was one of the most fun Meso forums. His stalking and harassment didn't kill it but it sure stopped its growth. It never recovered, sadly.

Does he still create new handles?

 

[Robfromga]

Does he still create new handles?

He was kinda 2dum...that actually lifted

 

[Eman]

The most damaging thing Odie did during that whole scandal - other than terrorize the female member - was nearly kill the women's forum. Up to that point it was growing rapidly and it was one of the most fun Meso forums. His stalking and harassment didn't kill it but it sure stopped its growth. It never recovered, sadly.

You're right about that... We had a solid group of females that had joined but they don't stop in very much these days. To be fair, one of them was an Odie alt handle and you were banging another one...

Does he still create new handles?

Not that I'm aware of. I don't think he would have tried to make an alt account actually, he left with a bad taste in his mouth. However, if you ever see a 5 sentence post with 4 "y'all's" in it, most likely it's Odie.

 

[Xragexx]

You're right about that... We had a solid group of females that had joined but they don't stop in very much these days. To be fair, one of them was an Odie alt handle and you were banging another one...



Not that I'm aware of. I don't think he would have tried to make an alt account actually, he left with a bad taste in his mouth. However, if you ever see a 5 sentence post with 4 "y'all's" in it, most likely it's Odie.

Lol, I’ve noticed in threAds where someone was trolling, people would call them Odie. I just assumed it really was him

 

[master.on]

He is talking about VPN. VPN doesn't really apply to website.

So if you didn't click any links, either he's bullshitting, or he's using the user data obtained from the forum administration interface therefore severely breaking the trust of everybody using the forum.

Don't see any other possibility here - does anybody?

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As much as it would be disgusting towards anybody on this forum if such data were kept and that he might have access to them (!) it's stupid to assume that it's definite proof that you use same VPN/hosting. So are 100 000 other people, as you have pointed out, and secure services have the way of attracting the same kind of ... users.


I don't really think you are panda, panda is too fucking cheap to purchase an HPLC, but who knows.

This isnt the first time I've heard @CensoredBoardsSuck being accused of having mod powers and/or abusing mod powers. I assumed it was a ridiculous claim. I dunno.


From the underground rules:

(8) Threats of cyber-attack are prohibited.


How about actual cyber attacks?

Or is that rule taken as seriously as the no trolling rule?

He first has to get the IP somewhere, you witless baboon.

CBS is talking about "using the same VPN "

Do you think website uses VPN?

Baboon.

It is for some.

There are 3 ways he can gather their IP

1 Meso keeps IP logs (just brainstorming for now, I'm not pointing fingers, nor I do believe there's a hidden agenda) so this is out of question.

2 Panda/Monkey got PMs with a link to click or a hotlinked image that automatically loads, then CBS has access to the site hosting the image, which keeps IP logs.

3 Panda/Monkey got an Email, or a message in their website, with said links or hotlinked pics.

Then, after getting the IP, CBS looks it up at Whois
and finds who the Internet Service Provider is, or if the IP belongs to an VPN.

I absolutely believe it's Panda, or a rep for Panda. He stopped coming into the PPL thread after he suddenly brought the new "rep" on, and then MK appears with the same business model.

Who would invest in an HPLC unit right away when starting a raws business? Someone with previous experience in the business I would say. Not only would that be an unusual and expensive initial expense, he'd also need an employee that can use it because I very much doubt that he can do it himself. The businesses (MK & PPL) are operating off of one another.

No sources (except perhaps Pcom) have HPLC.
At best they outsource the testing.
Panda posted some HPLC pics, but it belongs to a chinese company making natural products.
Maybe he had some fast friends there who agreed to let him take pics.

Unless the DEA is hardcore and uses methods like CBS did and is watching Panda’s every move.

While possible, I don't think they'll do that
What's the point of getting chinese IPs and pinpointing their locations, if the chinese gov't won't cooperate?

For domestic sources, they just need to place cameras at the frequent mail drop locations.

You live in China.

Everyone in china is guilty until found innocent
...after being hung.

 

[Cityofgrit]

I read some of Odie's posts in the Hammer Anabolics thread. That thread should be required reading. What a shitshow.