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[waterbottle]

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS EXPLAINING FOR FUCK SAKES!!! Christ learn how to fucking read before you start talking shit. I CLEARLY stated nolva is a anti-estrogen and I also said I thought it was a bad idea to use an A.I. for a first cycle and with such low doses!!!

You simpletons just skim through posts looking for ANY reason to attack someone and then you open up your big fat, uneducated mouths and spew your bullshit.

Learn to fucking read before you post dumb shit!!!

Shut up.

 

[SouthernFryed]

I've been through the days of no ai's and i can tell you with all honesty there's absolutely no need for an ai with low test and low dbol, none once so ever!

Quit spewing bullshit already!

Luck favors the prepared my friend.

I thought rule of thumb with AAS is prepare for the worst. Always have your PCT on hand and legit before starting cycle. Always have AI to keep E2 down.

Everyone’s body reacts to AAS differently. To not acknowledge that when advising someone just starting AAS usage is wrong. You gave bad advice. Own it, apologize and move on please.

 

[SouthernFryed]

Ah, you're on prop too. Yeah... well "piprionate" Love the name.

Yeah the 3% figure that's been thrown around is obviously bullshit. Maybe missing a 0? 30% at least with the mig have had issues.

I have the domestics Test P from before. It’s in GSO. Never had any pip from it but maybe I’m lucky. I also have no problems with Myglol. Had a lump first injection but i owe that to injecting too fast. Inject slow now and no issues.

 

[Twizzle94]

Hey guys, back again. So for my Test-E and Dbol cycle Arimidex on hand for on cycle and Nolvadex for post cycle? Let me know what y'all think, thank you.

 

[Evom1]

Hey guys, back again. So for my Test-E and Dbol cycle Arimidex on hand for on cycle and Nolvadex for post cycle? Let me know what y'all think, thank you.

Clomid with the Nolva for pct
Hcg 2,000iu eod between the cycle and pct

Hcg 250iu 2x a week on cycle would be good too

 

[SouthernFryed]

Hey guys, back again. So for my Test-E and Dbol cycle Arimidex on hand for on cycle and Nolvadex for post cycle? Let me know what y'all think, thank you.

Read the posts here on PCT. I found way more knowledge on Meso than anywhere else.

These guys have cycles down to a science. At your age you really want to successfully do your PCT.

Using Test P the last 2-3 weeks so you can start PCT almost immediately let’s you get more out of your cycle. Using HCG before the clomid/nolvadex helps as well.

All of this is covered in depth in the PCT forum. Read it, read it again and really learn it. PCT is critical for recovery and maintaining your gains. So many people fuck up with it because they don’t understand it.

 

[SouthernFryed]

Hey guys, back again. So for my Test-E and Dbol cycle Arimidex on hand for on cycle and Nolvadex for post cycle? Let me know what y'all think, thank you.

Steroid Post Cycle Therapy and ASIH Treatment

Idk why that didn’t hyperlink...

 

[Bradly]

It seems like info on roids is either too technical or dumbed down so much it is useless.

It sounds like Trest E does not need testosterone with the cycle and does not need pct after the cycle is done.

Did I misunderstand?

I dont have personal experience with the shit. and Ive only like thought about trying it once or twice because it was novel. Dude, your the one gonna be pinnig this. you should research the shit out of something before you try it and not go by anecdotal bro shit, especially novel compounds. its my opinion some novel compounds get "pumped" so as to push sales.
" you gotta try this brah,its fire"

 

[Ilikefrenchfries]

Luck favors the prepared my friend.

I thought rule of thumb with AAS is prepare for the worst. Always have your PCT on hand and legit before starting cycle. Always have AI to keep E2 down.

Everyone’s body reacts to AAS differently. To not acknowledge that when advising someone just starting AAS usage is wrong. You gave bad advice. Own it, apologize and move on please.

^^^^This * 1000

I aromatize so bad that, if untreated, my estrogen level is over 100 on 200 test/week.

 

[Twizzle94]

Steroid Post Cycle Therapy and ASIH Treatment

Idk why that didn’t hyperlink...

People are telling me different stuff. It is my first cycle and I am doing Test-E 400-500 mg/wk and dbol 20-30 mg ed. Arimidex on hand for during cycle and Nolvadex for post cycle. But I understand what you are saying, I def don't want to be all fucked up post cycle. Do you think hcg is crucial? Some say take it, others say don't... I don't know, I am just trying to get informed. Thank you

 

[mjf]

People are telling me different stuff. It is my first cycle and I am doing Test-E 400-500 mg/wk and dbol 20-30 mg ed. Arimidex on hand for during cycle and Nolvadex for post cycle. But I understand what you are saying, I def don't want to be all fucked up post cycle. Do you think hcg is crucial? Some say take it, others say don't... I don't know, I am just trying to get informed. Thank you

I personally don't think hcg is crucial. I am on trt so I run it occassionally to plump the boys back up from the atrophy caused by always being on test.

 

[SouthernFryed]

People are telling me different stuff. It is my first cycle and I am doing Test-E 400-500 mg/wk and dbol 20-30 mg ed. Arimidex on hand for during cycle and Nolvadex for post cycle. But I understand what you are saying, I def don't want to be all fucked up post cycle. Do you think hcg is crucial? Some say take it, others say don't... I don't know, I am just trying to get informed. Thank you

I take HCG to keep my semen from coming out like a thick wad of phlegm. Sorry if that’s TMI but the HCG keeps my testicles full and gives more volume to my ejaculate. Keeps the wife happy at least.

Read the post about using HCG before starting Clovis/nolvadex

If you don’t have it you can order it and get it by the time your PCT starts. It only costs around 40 bucks

 

[mjf]

I personally don't think hcg is crucial. I am on trt so I run it occassionally to plump the boys back up from the atrophy caused by always being on test.

I'm quoting myself just to say that there are alot of differing opinions on hcg out there. The forum I used to frequent, everyone was adamant that hcg was suppressive to natural testosterone production therefore it should not be run after cycle as a pct.
A few google searches shows a majority of people explaining how it mimics LH and therefore starts the testes producing testosterone again. In those explanations, it would be run towards the end of the cycle and up to pct. Pct would then reboot the whole system, but you'd have a jump start since the testes are already producing test.

Basically I'm not smart enough to determine fact from broscience on this so take my advice with a grain of salt.

 

[SouthernFryed]

It seems like info on roids is either too technical or dumbed down so much it is useless.

It sounds like Trest E does not need testosterone with the cycle and does not need pct after the cycle is done.

Did I misunderstand?

From what I have read, trestolone was discovered decades before and not used because of the side effects and long term shutdown on HPTA

I personally think it’s only being made because of its novelty. I also think that there’s more than enough tested, tried and true injecatable steroids to use in different combinations.

 

[preserve36]

For me HCG makes all the difference. Really bridges the gap between full recovery. Its always been a nice smooth transition with hcg. Without it i really crash hard. Even with clomid and nolva. Takes a long time to come back and lose alot of gains.

 

[waterbottle]

I have always used hcg myself so I can’t compare using it vs. not using it.

 

[Twizzle94]

For me HCG makes all the difference. Really bridges the gap between full recovery. Its always been a nice smooth transition with hcg. Without it i really crash hard. Even with clomid and nolva. Takes a long time to come back and lose alot of gains.

So you suggest running a cycle and the two week period take hcg and then start pct?

 

[movingiron88]

You shouldn't skimp on PCT. You spend your time, health and money on your cycle and then not do a proper pct and lose everything you just gained in 12 weeks. Plus your future health. Don't just do a nolvadex only pct. Listen to @SouthernFryed on this one. Read the threads he gave you and study everything until you completely understand it. Do a proper pct

 

[Surfj9009]

Too late for the ass picture contest? Here is my naughty young honey at the end of her bulk righy now. She’s starting her prep the day after Christmas. Fucking love this ass right now though.

 

[SouthernFryed]

So you suggest running a cycle and the two week period take hcg and then start pct?

There’s a Comprehensive Guide to PCT sticky in the above mentioned forum. Like @movingiron88 said; PCT is key to successfully cycling. Meso has more useful Information on this subject than anywhere else I’ve found. If anyone knows of other useful resources, feel free to interject.

Having bloodwork before, during and after a cycle is critical to knowing when your test has dropped so that successful PCT can be started.

So many people start PCT too soon and their recovery is prolonged or more likely they cruise on test which just makes it harder to PCT the longer you take exogenous testosterone.